Do you think that rap music will ever go back to the days of love, the "reality" of the streets, racism and poverty and awareness?

Most modern rap has been about ass, "bling-bling", cars and how much money they got to the point that all rap music nowadays sound the same. Modern rap is more about quantity than quality of music. Anybody else agree with me?

The Reason why Hip Hop Music is becoming what it is becomg is the fact that everything is so commorcialized.... I do not believe that hip hop will ever be the same..... the reason being.....it isnt underground music anymore.... Ive been in the Hip Hop Industry for 8 years and 5 years professionally... Ive worked with Mike Jones, Ras Kass, Madd Skillz, Chamillionaire, Paul Wall, Tai Lyve, G.O.D., Young Deuce, NME Wrekidz, Team Brinkz and too many more artists, ...... the thing is... if you want the real hip hop... take it back to the underground artists such as VG Skillz, Tai Lyve and people like that.... they are the bread and butter of the industry........ thas my take on it.....blkscholar

^^ nno offecnce Madd producah, but all the people you mentioned are new acts and the ones who are really f*8kin up the game apart from ras kass. ..

There is still undeground raw rap but the commercial music is over shadowing it.


My best era in rap was the late 90s. the commercial scale then was quality. and I enjoyed Ghosting beats. but now its redicolous.

But theres is still alotta uundeground quality rap. but you aitn gonna be getting it on yah mtv or BET.

commons album is a classic
kanyes next album is another hiphop classic.

Hip-hop as evolved. that old school ish aint gonna happen no more that time as gone.

Hiphop sounds far more better in production qulity now than 15years ago

Hiphop is more musical.

Writers are more skillfull FLOW wise. but subject matter aint as good as before.

Hiphop is a culture and a buisness now. so its not gonna go back to that old days.

Did I say that the acts are good acts???? no.When you have a contract for money to work with one of those acts you will not refuse. but yes you are partially right.........

Kanye is a Lazy performer....I opened up for him last year in Norfolk, VA

how is kanye west a lazy performer, ThaMaddProducah?

i got told kanye was a gd performer but ill have 2 see 4 myself rly

anyways.....rap will never go back 2 its rich quality of music because in 2days world rap music has turned into a business rather than an art form

nowdaysa rapper cannot put out a record tht he has 100% control over....its not about makin poetry no more...its about puttin out music tht will go platinum and multu platinum and will make the record company money.

who's fault is tht?

is it the white mans fault for watering down wot used 2 b a political message in the form of music?

is it the rappers fault for becoming more materialistic and wantinf "bling" and money at the sacrifice of substance?

rappers no longer make album not focusin on 1st week sales...artists like common, mos def, krs-one u cud even say 2pac and biggy didnt care about how much they sold it was about making an album for their fans, for themselves, puttin together trck after track of pure poetry.

nowdays their are only a few artists who arent slaves 2 their labels.....many rappers wud want 2 make albums similar 2 the stuff the grew up listenin 2 but a fear of being dropped and a fear of not connecting 2 their modern day fans who are concern wit club bangers rather thn content...from the top of my head i can name: NAS, MOS DEF, COMMON, TALIB KWELI, DEAD PREZ & KANYE 2sum degree who can make an album tht is 100% theirs with no label boss over their shoulder tellin thm 2 make a song wit a catchy hook 2 sell.....i think tht is a reason y alot of ppl are so hyped about commons new album bcus from his 1st single "the corners(not commercial at all", u can tell he isnt tryin 2 make no commercial record, he's just makin an album of pure hip hop.

Estimated wealth :

Russell Simmons $500m

Dr dre = $300m

P Diddy = $200m

Jay z = $200m

50 cent = $100m

Master P = $100m

Nelly = $150m



A combined wealth of over$1.5billion just to name few and the real talented artists are still struggling to eat??? These are the true slaves to the industry simply bcoz they could easy create a lucrative market for so called alternative/constructive Hip hop but choose not to bcoz of there white pay masters. When Priority records f*cked over Ras Kass before he went inside or when Colombia shafted Dead Prez where was the rescue package? Instead u had Def Jam begging artists like Immortal Technique to sign along the dotted line with a view to tone down his lyrics and compromise his subject matter what kind of crap is that!!! The truth is rich black Americans will always be slaves to the white Yankee dollar.

F*ck giving money to your local church especially if the bulk of your money is made on the glorification of death and destruction to your own people strictly to entertain whites, but until black Americans start supporting constructive artists, wannabe gb’s and pimps will happily continue chatting shit in order to get paid. After all there’s only so much people one can kill or how much crack one can sell isn’t there???

Spare usthe monotonous bullshit plz

I love hip hop, but you cant even begin to compare hip hop artists from bak in da day to you 50 cents and your cassidy's of today bcos they are not hip hop artists.the music they make is called "hip pop", and they know it.

they are in this game strictly or the cash and nothing else. if they really loved hip hop the way most of them claim they do, they would never make half of the crap that they come out with these days.

all the topics in these hip pop tunes are so shallow and unoriginal, and has nothing real to offer us as a people.i cant relate to anyone talking about there bling bling and all there croamedout cars, cos my world aint nothing like that.

now i am a good girl, but to be honest i'd rather listen to some hard core gangster rap any day insted of these fake arse uncle tom, bubblegum "rappers".

i dont know why some people are dissing kanye west, that guy is a good producer that brings diversity to rap, id like to see you lot do better he can even rap better than some rappers outthere.


anyway, i think rap might regain its lost quality, there are groups out there with talent and might break through one day. maybe not now but one day.
besides just because an artist is underground does not mean his stuff is the best, because iv heard some underground artists that deserve to be slapped, thier song was jsut pure nonsense, sometimes when you try to be to eperimental you shot your self in the foot look at commons last album electric circus, that was a bowl of piss.
even though as already said hiphop productions sound better than 15 year ago, if you listen to albums like midnight marrauders and the low end thoery youll see that some artist where way ahead of thier time during that era, tribe called quest are one of the best groups of all time and artist bite alotta thier shit too and still do . apart from quest no other early 90s group did it for me apart from wu,
and i agree with what khalil said late 90s was my fave era in rap even rnb . biggie pac and the rest ripped it up and mase too was one of my fav of all time untill he released this crap last year. he still has a chance to do good shit, if you wana listen to good stuff atleast mainstream then common and kanye them ,are putting out good shit production wise even the neptunes and timberland too prodcution wise go download thier new shit. things might not go back to the way it was besides what we many missed where gropus like public enemy, apart from that all rap has been the same to me. you just gotta go with the times and there are still a few good artist outthere. and i aint talking bout 50cent ,eminem and the rest of those muppets.

Common's album Be is quality over quantity with just 11 tracks and not adding alubm fillers Kind of like Illmatic with 10 tracks, this is the direction hip hop needs to move in however the power of pop is to much for people today.