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From your friendly neighborhood site dedicated to Asian-American Enpowerment. . .
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I just could not resist tracking down this story. We all knew this for some time. Denzel does not like doing love scenes with "White" womenbecause ofthe huge "Black" women following he has. But now that it has been revealed, the media is having a field day.
http://robtshepherd.tripod.com/denzel.html
The secret imperative behind most of Hollywood's black and white star pairings remains: Look but don't touch. We've all been trained by years of moviegoing to know that at some point in thrillers or romantic comedies -- after the growing rapport, the looks that linger just a second longer than necessary -- the male and female leads will get together. Except, that is, when the leading couple is interracial. You can wait until the last credit has rolled in "The Pelican Brief" or "Men in Black" or "Murder at 1600," all movies in which there's a definite chemistry between the black and white leads, and the only physical contact you'll see is -- perhaps -- an affectionate but decidedly nonsexual embrace.
[b]So why is this cure for jungle fever?)
Lee pays lip service to the way each character is rejected by family and friends as a result of the affair, but he can't hide his disgust with the relationship. (Sciorra has spoken in interviews of how she had to fight to give her character dimension.) The first time Snipes and Sciorra have sex is after hours at their office, on top of a drafting table. It's a device that first popped up in '80s movies like "Fatal Attraction": When the filmmakers want to show disapproval of extramarital sex, they shoot it so that it looks physically uncomfortable. (Think of Michael Douglas screwing Glenn Close while she's perched on the kitchen sink.) Lee's message is a blatant version of the thought that hovers in Hepburn's and Tracy's minds in the Kramer film: "Wouldn't you be happier with your own kind?"
Has "separate" but unequal given way to an independent separate equality?
We've reached a point where segregation has become an acceptable liberal position. (It isn't conservative critics who praise Spike Lee movies.) But separatism is not the same thing as either self-determination or racial pride. I'd argue that pride finds its strongest expression in the midst of difference.
Not that every movie has to be scrupulously integrated. It would be great to see more movies with all-black casts, and the crossover success of the romantic comedy "The Best Man" last year or "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" in 1998 means we may get them. There's a thrill in seeing black actors starring in the classic Hollywood genres blacks have traditionally been excluded from (and a thrill in seeing just how viable those forms can still be). The hugely entertaining "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" is, except for its welcome sexual forthrightness, like those dishy women's pictures of the '40s, full of gossip and luxe surroundings. But it's a drag to see one character's white husband used as an example of her snobbishness. "The Hurricane" has no qualms about exaggerating the role of three white Canadians in freeing Rubin Carter from prison, but it doesn't even mention that in real life Carter had an affair with and eventually married one of them.
“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.
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I really wish these people would make up their minds. One the one hand, they HATE to see a 'black' male with a white woman onscreen - particularly a romantic relationship - but when a 'black' actor turns down the opportunity to bone a white female on screen then suddenly all their fragile egos are bruised so they call him "racist".
LOL europeans never cease to amaze me.....
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12-01-07, 02:14 AM
Actually he has already done a love scene with a white woman....Malcom X ring any bells?
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12-01-07, 02:30 AM
Him and the yurugu woman just kissed in the film, he didn't bang the hoe.
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Not good enough for the "White" media here. He even had a scene with a "White" woman in "He Got Game".
“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.
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I really wish these people would make up their minds. One the one hand, they HATE to see a 'black' male with a white woman onscreen - particularly a romantic relationship - but when a 'black' actor turns down the opportunity to bone a white female on screen then suddenly all their fragile egos are bruised so they call him "racist".
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What it is PK is that they don't like the idea of a black man rejecting a white woman........How dare he!
On the other hand they don't wantblack men slobbering all over their women - they just like the idea that theydesire to as it reaffirms their warped and misguided feelings of superiority.
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There are those who feel that the only way to ‘prove their own worth’ is by ‘devaluing the worth of others’. You will often find that a man who is compelled to measure his substance against the substance of another, has little of substance in the first place!
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I really wish these people would make up their minds. One the one hand, they HATE to see a 'black' male with a white woman onscreen - particularly a romantic relationship - but when a 'black' actor turns down the opportunity to bone a white female on screen then suddenly all their fragile egos are bruised so they call him "racist".
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What it is PK is that they don't like the idea of a black man rejecting a white woman........How dare he!
On the other hand they don't wantblack men slobbering all over their women - they just like the idea that theydesire to as it reaffirms their warped and misguided feelings of superiority.
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"White" supremacy is just a weird belief system. Well, besides being racist, insane, misogynistic, paranoid, schziophrenic, etc.
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When I read the article it wascrazy to see that the writer was actually angry that a "Black" man didn't want to do sex scene with "White" women. Itis also crazy to see that many "White" actresses fully expect to get a "tang" scene with the likes of Denzel, WillSmith, Samuel Jackson, etc.
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Perhaps they don't have history books handy????
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“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.
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“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.
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Yeah, i remember reading an article about denzel washington and how some of the black women in the audience reacted angrily to a kiss with a white women in 'he got game.' There response was something like 'denzel you promised.' Promised that he would stay away from white women that is.
Its a bit of a paradox that the mediahates seeing black with white, but alsohates seeing black reject white.It probably concludes theirway of thinking is that black is notnot good enough to bewhite butblack isgood enough to gratify white.
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Apologies, double post!
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Yeah, i remember reading an article about denzel washington and how some of the black women in the audience reacted angrily to a kiss with a white women in 'he got game.' There response was something like 'denzel you promised.' Promised that he would stay away from white women that is.
Its a bit of a paradox that the mediahates seeing black with white, but alsohates seeing black reject white.It probably concludes theirway of thinking is that black is notnot good enough to bewhite butblack isgood enough to gratify white.
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A powerful statement that bears repeating.
“If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning.
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Actually he has already done a love scene with a white woman....Malcom X ring any bells?
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That was an biographical film of someone else's life. I think Denzel won't do a regular movie with a White woman as his love interest. Not the same thing...peace...
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