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19-04-07, 09:15 PM
PLATINUM SELLING RAPPER TELLS '60 MINUTES': WOULDN'T HELP POLICE CATCH EVEN A SERIAL KILLER BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT HIS BUSINESS AND VIOLATE HIS 'CODE OF ETHICS'
Thu Apr 19 2007 12:47:1 ET
Rap star Cam'ron says there's no situation -- including a serial killer living next door -- that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his "code of ethics." Cam'ron, whose real name is Cameron Giles, talks to Anderson Cooper for a report on how the hip-hop culture's message to shun the police has undermined efforts to solve murders across the country. Cooper's report will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, April 22 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
"If I knew the serial killer was living next door to me?" Giles responds to a hypothetical question posed by Cooper. "I wouldn't call and tell anybody on him -- but I'd probably move," says Giles. "But I'm not going to call and be like, ÔThe serial killer's in 4E.' " ( For an excerpt of Giles' interview, click here
Giles' "code of ethics" also extends to crimes committed against him. After being shot and wounded by gunmen, Giles refused to cooperate with police. Why? "Because...it would definitely hurt my business, and the way I was raised, I just don't do that," says Giles. Pressed by Cooper, who says had he been the victim, he would want his attacker to be caught, Giles explains further: "But then again, you're not going to be on the stage tonight in the middle of, say, Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, with people with gold and platinum teeth and dreadlocks jumping up and down singing your songs, either," says Giles. "We're in two different lines of business."
"So for you, it's really about business?" Cooper asks.
"It's about business," Giles says, "but it's still also a code of ethics."
Rappers appear to be concerned about damaging what's known as their "street credibility," says Geoffrey Canada, an anti-violence advocate and educator from New York City's Harlem neighborhood. "It's one of those things that sells music and no one really quite understands why," says Canada. Their fans look up to artists if they come from the "meanest streets of the urban ghetto," he tells Cooper. For that reason, Canada says, they do not cooperate with the police.
Canada says in the poor New York City neighborhood he grew up in, only the criminals didn't talk to the police, but within today's hip-hop culture, that's changed. "It is now a cultural norm that is being preached in poor communities....It's like you can't be a black person if you have a set of values that say ÔI will not watch a crime happen in my community without getting involved to stop it,'" Canada tells Cooper.
Young people from some of New York's toughest neighborhoods echo Canada's assessment, calling the message not to help police "the rules" and helping the police "a crime" in their neighborhoods. These "rules" are contributing to a much lower percentage of arrests in homicide cases -- a statistic known as the "clearance rate" -- in largely poor, minority neighborhoods throughout the country, according to Prof. David Kennedy of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "I work in communities where the clearance rate for homicides has gone into the single digits," says Kennedy. The national rate for homicide clearance is 60 percent. "In these neighborhoods, we are on the verge of -- or maybe we have already lost -- the rule of law," he tells Cooper.
Says Canada, "It's like we're saying to the criminals, ÔYou can have our community....Do anything you want and we will either deal with it ourselves or we'll simply ignore it.' "

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20-04-07, 08:36 PM
don't you just want to strangle the stupid prick?
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20-04-07, 08:49 PM
what good would such violent masturbation do confused3
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20-04-07, 09:11 PM
Watcher: to say that this idiot is a 'prick' would be to insult 'pricks', this man is so far stupid its untrue.... but honestly i really hope that good law abiding people black & white read this stupidness and treat him with the contempt he deserves... by not putting a single penny into the pocket of this low life scum...
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21-04-07, 12:27 AM
Cam'ron is an attention whoring dickhead who isn't even worth the pink clothes on his back.
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21-04-07, 01:07 AM
Perhaps he should be more worried about his pink getups ruining his street cred.
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22-04-07, 12:08 AM
if you thought Camron was a clown before...
click this
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...072giles1.html
read both pages....
I GUARANTEE you'll laugh
Camron has to learn...if you're gonna go on 60 minutes and say such stuff, you now become open prey for people to look up YOUR past....
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On another note....all these dudes grew up amidst true American urban poverty......now they live middle class quiet existences.....if they thought somebody was selling drugs in their current neighborhoods....on the corner.....they'd PERSONALLY call the cops and tell......
But they have to say all this stuff to appeal to the people who supprt their careers and attend their shows..buy thei rmixtapes and dvds and t shirts...
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22-04-07, 12:58 PM
DtotheJ wrote:
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if you thought Camron was a clown before...
click this
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...072giles1.html
read both pages....
I GUARANTEE you'll laugh
Camron has to learn...if you're gonna go on 60 minutes and say such stuff, you now become open prey for people to look up YOUR past....
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