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28-12-06, 10:43 AM
I know that it has an all black cast, but can it really be considered an all black movie? When you look past the on screen talent, its another world.
Director/Writer - Bill Condon (white)
Producers - David Geffen (white)
Laurence Mark (white)
Leeann Stonebreaker (white)
Patricia Whitcher (white)
Cinematographer - Tobias A. Schliessler (white)
Editors - Virginia Katz (white)
Non-Original Music - Henry Krieger (white)
Casting Director - Debra Zane (white)
Production Designer - John Myhre (white)
Art Director - Tomas Voth (white)
Now if you know anything about movies, you know these are the most important roles in making a film. For the most part, actors are a dime a dozen and can easily by replaced, but the director, write, producers, cinematographer are responsible for the film, even if they don't get the credit in the public eye.
It really doesn't matter to me what color you are, as long as you're good at what you do. My concern is that in a film that has been totted as a "BLACK" film, not one black got a position in a major technical role, which in my opinion are the most important positions on a film.
People might not know, but this is a trend in hollywood and televison. Blacks are used for on screen talent, but are looked over for production and technical positions; writers, directors, producers, editors, dp's, sound, gaffers, grips, ect. There are of course a few exceptions, but for the most part, blacks are "black-balled" from these positions.

Only the best is good enough....
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28-12-06, 10:50 AM
I wouldn't want white people's ideas of what 'black' is supposed to be like projected to us in a so-called black movieconfused2
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28-12-06, 11:00 AM
but look at hustle an flow...that was another classic white "black" moviebesides whitefolk been projecting their image of us onto us for years..

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28-12-06, 11:00 AM
Sure its Black , but White owned just like MOST of the magazines you pick up at the newstands and the programs you watch on television.
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28-12-06, 09:34 PM
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but look at hustle an flow...that was another classic white "black" moviebesides whitefolk been projecting their image of us onto us for years..
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That's true and that's why it can't really be a black movie. That is simply a movie. Like'memoirs of a geisha' isntreally a Japanese movie, but simply a movie.
An yes, the image projecting has been done for years....it's time we change that.
Boyz in the hood .... it has awhat-is-wrong-with-our-community speech by the guy who plays the father....it has black directors/writers, thatto me makes their portrayal of the black hood believable.Plus i have a feeling black americans get more of the nuances in humor and speech of the movie than white people.
The movie 'the color purple' was directed by Steven Spielberg, but at least the writer of the book, Alice Walker, was black.I am more inclined to call that a back movie than dreamgirls.
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29-12-06, 02:05 AM
Black_Power wrote:
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I know that it has an all black cast, but can it really be considered an all black movie? When you look past the on screen talent, its another world.
Director/Writer - Bill Condon (white)
Producers - David Geffen (white)
Laurence Mark (white)
Leeann Stonebreaker (white)
Patricia Whitcher (white)
Cinematographer - Tobias A. Schliessler (white)
Editors - Virginia Katz (white)
Non-Original Music - Henry Krieger (white)
Casting Director - Debra Zane (white)
Production Designer - John Myhre (white)
Art Director - Tomas Voth (white)
Now if you know anything about movies, you know these are the most important roles in making a film. For the most part, actors are a dime a dozen and can easily by replaced, but the director, write, producers, cinematographer are responsible for the film, even if they don't get the credit in the public eye.
It really doesn't matter to me what color you are, as long as you're good at what you do. My concern is that in a film that has been totted as a "BLACK" film, not one black got a position in a major technical role, which in my opinion are the most important positions on a film.
People might not know, but this is a trend in hollywood and televison. Blacks are used for on screen talent, but are looked over for production and technical positions; writers, directors, producers, editors, dp's, sound, gaffers, grips, ect. There are of course a few exceptions, but for the most part, blacks are "black-balled" from these positions.
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doesnt matter
the only color that matter is GREEN
Do you know the most feared actor in Hollywood? and do u know why they fear him?
try to look at things in that perspective then you will understand my point
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