All, i am thinking of learning C++ / Visual basics at a good accredited college/centre/ in preparation for Msc in Computer Science. I have never done programming but need to learn fast before September next year. Can anyone recommend a good centre/college that teach theses courses. i.e one that you've heard of, being to...

I have tried text books and online tutorials but find them boring! I learn better in a classroom environment .

Colleges/centres institutions preferably in London.Possibly ones that cater for evening classes.

Thanks in advance

Is this what you're looking for ...?

http://www.wcc.co.uk/newweb/cgi-bin/...e-home-old.asp

colo-mentality wrote:
...Oh dear...You have never done structured programming before, and you plan on getting a Masters in Computer Science? The undergraduate CS courses are too difficult for most already, and you are talking about getting a graduate degree in this? What did you study in undergrad? I hope it was at least of some technical nature where you did some programming, because you will have a difficult time. I know people with computer science bachelors that found the masters program difficult and some didn't finish.

One last thing, I can see a masters program doing C++, but Visual Basic? Get the hell outta here. I don't know of any accredited university teaching Visual Basic in their Computer Science core curriculum, although may be an outlying elective course. Visual Basicisfar too primitive for advanced structured programming, unless you just want tomake pretty little windows withMicrosofttemplates, which most computer scientists & engineers will tell you isn't real programming...especially not on the graduate level.

Yes... Many thanks i have enrolled already and would be looking to do this course ASAP.

Many thanks once again Saida M

@Shemsi en Tehuti. Indeed true speech..however I have two mates who previously did the same Msc Computer science courses at UCL even though we all both had same degree - Bsc Economics with no prior knowledge of programming these boys are out in California doing well for themselves. One got a distinction other got a Merit. So it can be done . However, I lost contact with them a few years ago.

Indeed i have braced myself for a tough ride already as i know it aint easy. The course is schedule for next October. So i gat 1yr to prepare. Already found a good course re Microsoft Visual C++.!!!as a gentle introduction That is a step in the right direction. Plus already started using about 5 books on C++ already ...


its a rugged tough road I know!

Well, I certainly wish for yousuccess...

Hmmm.

My advice to you is first of to recognize that you are not going to learn oop (object oriented programming) any better in a classroom than you will rolling up your shirtsleeves and studying on your own-I will not argue that the classroom does not have its beneifts, for example, getting a better perspective on how your programming knowledge and skills are best utilized in the real world; however if you've never done any programming believe me when I tell you learning will be MUCH more difficult in the classroom. Why?

(a) Because in a classroom there is something called pace. That pace is not going to stop or slow down at all because you've gotten stuck on a single aspect or unresolvable problem in either comprehension or application.

(b) A class in programming is NOT a curriculum in computer science, in which case yes, if you wanT to learn programming you should be in the classroom. But don't think learning either of these languages consists of knowing how to string code together. at least 75% of all your working knowledge will be based on your understanding of how computer systems work. The rest is application of THEORY. Unless you have an IQ that can boil and have a knack for perceiveing how that theory correlates to what you are doing then I suggest you start READING YOUR ASS OFF.

functions,stacks,pointers,classes,constructors and destructors will mean nothing to you if you do not understand the theory behinfd how they work; so your curriculum is going to ground you in legacy before you even get near C++ or visual basic. You will need to learn COBOL, FORTRAN, DEBUG, ASM, BASIC, and BATCH, as well as SHELL SCRIPTING before you even get near VB.

1. Go and get a good text on OPERATING SYSTEMS and READ IT.

2. Download the following and use it

(a) VMware or VirtualPC

(b) Linux (you can pretty much play around with every language under the sun)

(c) Assembly Language Step by Step (I have the text and will sed it to you) This is probably THE MOST IMPORTANT book you will ever read.

3. LEARN HTML

The bottom line is that if you intend to be a programmer you are going to have to decide that you are going to be a programmer-period. I'm serious. You have to live, eat,sleep and sh** code 24/7. It ay seem as though I'm exaggerating the importance of focusing effort-I AM SO YOU WILL HAVE NO REGRETS LATER.

Good Luck