Microsoft Vista to launch this week - Page 2

Saida.M · (#26 (**permalink**))

Gates is maneuvering for a chokehold... wait and see.

In PC Plus:

EULA VISTA (AGREEMENT)

The software will from time to time validate the software, update or require download of the validation feature of the software.

While XP only validated the sofware once, Vista keeps its options open. When you're downloading updates for the new OS you'll now require the Genuine Windows Validation tool, and the legalise gives it permission to phone home to make sure you're still on the side of the angels. Should your system fail the test, it could simply stop being able to get updates - not a comforting thought - or possibly stop working until you agree to go out and buy a new product key.

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umbrarchist · (#27 (**permalink**))

Wait ... U tryna say this Vista just buns up your hard drive :?

Memory, known as RAM, and the hard drive are two different things.

The Random Access Memory these days is 256 megabyte to 4,000 megabytes or 4 gigabytes. This is purely electronic memory with no moving parts.

The Hard Drive is a mechanical device that spins. An old hard drive might be only 10 gigabytes. It's difficult to find a drive smaller than 80 gigabytes these days and 250 gigabytes isn't unusual.

Modern operating systems have what is called Virtual Memory capabilities. This treats space on the hard drive as part of memory. Windows has a page file which performs this function. All of this fancy graphics uses up more memory so Windows can get faster if you install more memory because there is a lot less paging. This paging should theoretically cause more wear and tear on your hard drive.

I would not be surprised if Vista does this more than XP.

umbra

defyfear · (#28 (**permalink**))

umbrarchist wrote:

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Wait ... U tryna say this Vista just buns up your hard drive :?

Memory, known as RAM, and the hard drive are two different things.

The Random Access Memory these days is 256 megabyte to 4,000 megabytes or 4 gigabytes. This is purely electronic memory with no moving parts.

The Hard Drive is a mechanical device that spins. An old hard drive might be only 10 gigabytes. It's difficult to find a drive smaller than 80 gigabytes these days and 250 gigabytes isn't unusual.

Modern operating systems have what is called Virtual Memory capabilities. This treats space on the hard drive as part of memory. Windows has a page file which performs this function. All of this

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fancy graphics uses up more memory so Windows can get faster if you install more memory because there is a lot less paging. This paging should theoretically cause more wear and tear on your hard drive.

I would not be surprised if Vista does this more than XP.

umbra

Some experts say for better performance use a second hard drive (preferably an older computer stripped down) for storing the page for paging in virtual memory there because of that. But Microsoft isn't too much into performance on a shoe string any how. Let the 'lesser' world figure that out.

Jay Jay · (#29 (**permalink**))

Vista has no internal mixer, it will not let you play and record audio at the same time, I think this is to do with it's content protection thingy, all prior versions of windows and every other Operating System has an internal mixer.

Your convience has been restricted to help corparations.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#30 (**permalink**))

Jay Jay wrote:

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Vista has no internal mixer, it will not let you play and record audio at the same time, I think this is to do with it's content protection thingy, all prior versions of windows and every other Operating System has an internal mixer.

Your convience has been restricted to help corparations.

Yup...hence why I am thinking of switching to Mac and just keep with my XP OS for as long as possible while learning Mac OS

Vezz. · (#31 (**permalink**))

I also got Vista with my new laptop. Apparently my laptop has 2gb RAM....does this mean the performance will suffer? (It's a Sony Vaio).

umbrarchist · (#32 (**permalink**))

I also got Vista with my new laptop. Apparently my laptop has 2gb RAM....does this mean the performance will suffer? (It's a Sony Vaio).

TWO GIGABYTES OF RAM!!!

I remember when I thought 100 megabytes was a big hard drive. We were putting them in servers. Performance at doing what? I am beginning to think that nowadays the only way performance can be bad is because the software is crap. And it might be the operating system.

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Vezz. · (#33 (**permalink**))

umbrarchist wrote:

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I also got Vista with my new laptop. Apparently my laptop has 2gb RAM....does this mean the performance will suffer? (It's a Sony Vaio).

TWO GIGABYTES OF RAM!!!

I remember when I thought 100 megabytes was a big hard drive. We were putting them in servers. Performance at doing what? I am beginning to think that nowadays the only way performance can be bad is because the software is crap. And it might be the operating system.

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I remember previous PCs I've had being slow at booting, and downloading stuff.

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It'll be used mainly for work purposes (spreadsheets, Sage & MYOB), but I'm getting wireless Broadband (as soon as Tiscali send me my MAC code!) and I don't want to compromise either the laptop or desktop.

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As an aside, yesterday I received a critical update to download something to ensure my version of Windows is legal (I'm sure it is but don't want to take the chance). I didn't instal it - was this right?

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umbrarchist · (#34 (**permalink**))

Where did the warning come from, was it from Vista or something from the internet? When an illegitimate copy of XP is connected to a Macro$cam website it gives the user 30 days to straighten up his act. I don't know what Vista does. If it is a warning from Microsoft thru Vista maybe you better do what it says. It wouldn't surprise me if Macro$cam made new legitimate copies of Vista register thru the internet.

To me Vista is more reason to switch to Linux.

umbra

umbrarchist · (#35 (**permalink**))

This is from the June 2007 Computer Power User:

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I can't agree with you more. I bought a laptop with Vista Home Premium preinstalled, and I could have sworn that when Microsoft was advertising some of the GREAT new features, one of which was that after a Windows Upgrade you would not have to do a restart. Wrong!

Or so claims a CPU reader who goes by the name of "Dan." That's because Windows Vista is still almost fundamentally Windows NT. Yes there's a lot that's changed in the past decade, but a lot really hasn't changed. Win2000 was a step forward for the NT shell, but if you shove aside all the (questionably interisting) eye candy, Windows hasn't really changed that much in the past few years.

Granted I don't believe any one of us would want our OS to progress too quickly and become unrecognizable with every revision. We would like to see incremental changesin our workflow and general computing environment, but I believe that change simply hasn't come quickly enough in many areas. Minutes before starting this article, I ended a phone call with my father, who was quite upset with Microsoft for making software that tries (and quite often fails) to read his mind.

As both experienced and novice users, our expectations have never vbeen higher.

And if you thought this battle was hot, the war between traditional OEMs is burning even higher. Can you honestly tell me the true differences between a machine from Gateway, HP, Dell, et.al? Didn't think so.

We're living and computing in very interesting times.
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The curious part to me was Vista is still basically NY/Win2000.

What bugs me is when they make some improvements they usually add silly garbage that is annoying also. I somewhat prefer Win2K to XP.

umbra

babygirl44 · (#36 (**permalink**))

I got Vista Home Premium the month after it came out. It has the potntial to be very good, however, there are a lot of othr products that aren't yet compatable and it has caused me a few problems. If I'd have known it was going to be problematic I would have got XP with my laptop and upgraded to Vista next year.

umbrarchist · (#37 (**permalink**))

If I'd have known it was going to be problematic I would have got XP with my laptop and upgraded to Vista next year.

The Bleeding Edge will get you if you don't watch out.

umbra