Ron Paul Was America's Last Presidential Chance

Ali-Ber · (#1 (**permalink**))

Ron Paul's foreign and domestic policies, as a true conservative-republican Presidential candidate, are exactly what America/Mystery-Babylon needs to recover from the crises that It's in. I've come this conclusion, as a result of listening to Ron Paul lay out his sobering (as I experienced a temporary state of inebriation from Obama's euphoric speeches/campaign), common-sense message on how to improve America's dire (national and international) condition and status.

Ron Paul offered real change; and unlike the independent-party candidates, Ron Paul had a real chance of being elected; and unlike the liberal-independent-party candidates, Ron Paul offered a conservative-fiscal agenda, which is the type of agenda that the American economy needs; and, last but not least, Ron Paul's domestic (small government) policies are the types of policies that would cause (or push) our people in America into the concept of collective-self-determination, or, contemporarily speaking, powernomics.

Below are videos for those whom are not familiar (or are just a little familiar) with the policies that Ron Paul campaigned on, and are not familiar with powernomics.

Ron Paul Meet's The Press: Foreign Policy 1/2

Ron Paul Meet's The Press: Foreign Policy 2/2

Ron Paul Fox News Debate Highlights

Ron Paul on Rachel Maddow: Attacks Mccain and Obama

Ron Paul Presenting Fiscal Solutions for America's Economic Crisis

Ron Paul: The Empire is Coming Down!

Ron Paul Discussing The U.S. Economy

Powernomics by Dr. Claud Anderson

Peace

Burning Spear · (#2 (**permalink**))

Thanks.I needed a good laugh this morning.

Ron Paul was a complete clwon who raised lots of cash,but the donors failed to vote in the primaries.Didn't help that he came across as a total boob on television.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#3 (**permalink**))

I agree. Ron Paul was the only real candidate. His strict Constitutional philosophies and small government ideas are exactly what we need live in this country. Now we have Obama who will feed the beast even more and make it larger and more difficult to get out of our lives.

They said 95% of Afrikans voted for Obama this election. Well, I apparently was in that 5% that did not.

Burning Spear · (#4 (**permalink**))

I've voed for the G.O.P in some instances in the past.But Ron Paul's platform mirrored the Libertarian Party almost to a fault.I can't fail to see how someone who raised so much cash ,yet failed so miserabley in the primaries.I think his strategies would work in normal circumstances,but these aren't normal times.

umbrarchist · (#5 (**permalink**))

When do you hear Libertarians say accounting should be mandatory in the schools?

What did Ron Paul say about it?

Wouldn't that fit in with enlightened self interest and the invisible hand?

Planned obsolescence did not exist in Adam Smith's day. Ideologies don't keep themselves up to date with technology. Why buy 8-core computers with 4 gig of RAM and teragig drives and not know accounting? These palefaces make everything more difficult to understand than necessary by requiring memorization of trivial details and shoving important concepts under the rug.

How much has the world lost on depreciation of automobiles since the moon landing? And now they talk about saving GM.

Ron Paul had no chance and could not risk getting McCain but I am not excited about Obama.

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DSP · (#6 (**permalink**))

Interesting

Also find interesting that Obama seems to be bringing in most of the Clinton administration for his cabinet.

umbrarchist · (#7 (**permalink**))

At least the Clinton administration was trying to curb national debt.

United Stated National Debt

That graph has the placement of the line wrong between the Clinton and BushII administrations. It didn't start shooting up until after Bush was in. Look at the dates at the bottom.

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Shemsi en Tehuti · (#8 (**permalink**))

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Interesting

Also find interesting that Obama seems to be bringing in most of the Clinton administration for his cabinet.

It doesn't suprise me at all. Obama talked all that mess about "change" when he is the same as all the other Democrats that have expanded government into our communities (and even families) to destroy our livelihood and marginalize our potential. During the primaries, I saw absolutely nothing different between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama except that Clinton had this false heir of entitlement and Obama was more passive-aggressive.

Burning Spear · (#9 (**permalink**))

The GOP did the same thing.That's not news. The change should be the priorities and how his administration governs.

But its over two months until he's sworn in.Everything else is just speculation.

DtotheJ · (#10 (**permalink**))

don't understand what the point of this thread is, honestly.

intellectual pissing contest? monday morning quarterbacking?

Obama is going to be inaugurated.....and even his biggest detractors would clearly understand that him using old Clinton people makes some sort of sense. Where else do proven, white house experienced Dem. people exist?

Obama hadn't even finished his freshman term in Senate....so he's smart enough to know that to hit the ground running.....he has to have experienced people on the team........

let's talk about reality and leave ungrounded personal attacks out of this,please

DtotheJ · (#11 (**permalink**))

A lot of us are from countries where the intellectuals have pointless discussions all day while the masses starve.

all that brainpower to waste...people trying to prove how smart they are...instead of engaging in productive discussions....

umbrarchist · (#12 (**permalink**))

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A lot of us are from countries where the intellectuals have pointless discussions all day while the masses starve.

all that brainpower to waste...people trying to prove how smart they are...instead of engaging in productive discussions....

Well you don't get much response from the masses.

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That was written long b4 Obama got the nomination.. A bit b4 Monday.

But it is older than that.

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He wasn't even running but no one said much.

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DSP · (#13 (**permalink**))

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A lot of us are from countries where the intellectuals have pointless discussions all day while the masses starve.

all that brainpower to waste...people trying to prove how smart they are...instead of engaging in productive discussions....

excellent .....

umbrarchist · (#14 (**permalink**))

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Originally Posted by DtotheJ View Post
A lot of us are from countries where the intellectuals have pointless discussions all day while the masses starve.

all that brainpower to waste...people trying to prove how smart they are...instead of engaging in productive discussions....

excellent .....

Economists and politicians not noticing that planned obsolescence was going on in cars for the last 49 years was so productive.

Galbraith talked about it in 1959. What Black leaders have said anything about it since then?

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Ali-Ber · (#15 (**permalink**))

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Thanks.I needed a good laugh this morning.

Ron Paul was a complete clwon who raised lots of cash,but the donors failed to vote in the primaries.

Since the Obama ticket includes that self-proclaimed Zionist clown (i.e. Joe Biden, the king of gaffes), you'll be getting a lot more good laughs, in the years to come, at the expense of the masses. Failed to vote? You must not have heard/read about the votes for Ron Paul that were not counted in the New Hampshire primary. I guess that you're also unaware of voter fraud in the USA, in general...

Proof of Voter in the USA

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A lot of us are from countries where the intellectuals have pointless discussions all day while the masses starve.

Yeah that's right D, and while the masses are starving (mentally and physically), you spend your time on a message board attacking intelligent, informative (information for self-improvement, which has the potential to remedy and prevent starvation, depending on the causes of the starvation) messages.

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all that brainpower to waste...people trying to prove how smart they are...instead of engaging in productive discussions....

Some, such as myself, post productive messages and discussions, while some, such as yourself, post messages of destruction (attempts at tearing down intelligent, informative messages and discussions), foolish-sarcasm, willful-ignorance and nonsensical complaining. I'm not aware of any people trying to merely prove how smart they are, but based on what I've read from you, you have been doing a hell of a job here showing how (willfully) ignorant you are, and in showing that brainpower is something you are not willing to expend, at least not for the purposes of being constructive and informative/informed.

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let's talk about reality and leave ungrounded personal attacks out of this,please

You already initiated the personal attacks, because to attack my writings/ideas, is to attack me. It's obvious that cyberspace is your window into reality. I'm outdoors helping others. I've been a community activist since childhood (it's inherited runs in the family). I'll let you converse (verbally, not in cyberspace) with my fellow community activists; I'll let you converse (verbally, not in cyberspace) with people who have benefited from the information that I've been sharing on health; I'll let you converse with people who have benefited from the black-male-mentoring program that I'm involved in; I'll let you converse with people who have benefited from my workout program, and I can go on. As for this thread, it's loaded for informative videos that deal with real issues plaguing the black community in America, and plaguing the world.

Peace

DtotheJ · (#16 (**permalink**))

Obama gets inaugurated in a few weeks....

what is the ultimate goal of this thread? to spearhead the 2012 Paul campaign?

"intellectual masturbation" is what this thread is.

Ali-Ber · (#17 (**permalink**))

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Obama gets inaugurated in a few weeks....

what is the ultimate goal of this thread? to spearhead the 2012 Paul campaign?

"intellectual masturbation" is what this thread is.

The ultimate goal, or message, of this thread is announced in its title. Furthermore, this thread's first post contains videos for the purpose of informing people about who the true change Presidential candidate, of 2008, was, and to inform them about other things stated in my first post, which you would/should have known, if you weren't one who chooses to be willfully ignorant.

People on my level of consciousness, with low pineal-gland calcification-levels, don't masturbate on any level. In contrast, your "intellect" is reflective of perversion, because something that is perverse is destructive and distorted, and you use your "intellect" to destroy and distort intelligent, informative messages.

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DtotheJ · (#18 (**permalink**))

Explain to me what intellectual is involved in copying and pasting someone else's words...and then finding and posting related youtube clips?

and what ACTION do you seek to spur?

umbrarchist · (#19 (**permalink**))

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what ACTION do you seek to spur?

What difference does it make, he can post whatever he wants.

Ron Paul had more relevant things to say about economics than Obama. That was a good reason for the media to minimize him. Has any candidate ever suggested something as simple as mandatory accounting even though they have been blathering about education for decades?

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Shemsi en Tehuti · (#20 (**permalink**))

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The GOP did the same thing.That's not news. The change should be the priorities and how his administration governs.

But its over two months until he's sworn in.Everything else is just speculation.

No...I am not defending the Republicans, but they have not done the same thing. They may give more power to a small few, but they do not expand government to control the intricate details of people's lives.

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#21 (**permalink**))

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Obama gets inaugurated in a few weeks....

what is the ultimate goal of this thread? to spearhead the 2012 Paul campaign?

"intellectual masturbation" is what this thread is.

If it is, then so what? Why would that be a bad thing? I'm not saying Ron Paul is the best thing for this country, but my point has always been (even during the primaries) that his politics were the best of anyone whether Republican or Democrat.

What I see the ultimate goal being is to better inform Afrikans so they don't blindly follow a man who happens to be "black". The way he is being blindly followed parallels the prophecies of the anti-Christ...LOL...

Burning Spear · (#22 (**permalink**))

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No...I am not defending the Republicans, but they have not done the same thing. They may give more power to a small few, but they do not expand government to control the intricate details of people's lives.

You are wrong sir.The governement under Bush expanded at a pace not seen since WW2(Department of Homeland Security).

Shemsi en Tehuti · (#23 (**permalink**))

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You are wrong sir.The governement under Bush expanded at a pace not seen since WW2(Department of Homeland Security).

Let's look at a more panoramic view of American political history, specifically beyond the last 8 years. All of the notable Republicans have been against the formation of the Department of Homeland security because it expands the government. The Bush Administration surprised both Democrats and Republicans. Bush's support from his own party has seriously waned in the last 5 years.

Ali-Ber · (#24 (**permalink**))

Superpower or Superdebtor? by Ron Paul

"Since the passage of the “Iraq Liberation Act” in 1998, the US government has spent more than 40 million taxpayer dollars on the Iraqi National Congress and its leader Ahmed Chalabi. As we now know, Chalabi in turn fed the US government lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction and ties to al-Qaeda in the hope that the US would invade Iraq, overthrow Saddam Hussein, and put him in power. To hedge his bets, it appears he made a few deals with the Iranians, delivering US intelligence to that country. How’s that for gratitude? Now we see that the US has raided the house of Ahmed Chalabi and seized his papers and computers to see how much damage he may have caused the US with his Iranian dealings.

Round and round we go, and we never seem to learn. Regime change plans, whether by CIA operations or by preemptive war, almost always go badly. American intervention abroad- installing the Shah of Iran in the fifties, killing Diem in South Vietnam in the sixties, helping Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein in the eighties, and propping up dictators in many Arab countries- has had serious repercussions for American interests including the loss of American life.

It is clear that interventionism leads to the perceived need for more interventionism, which leads to more conflict and to increased resentment and anti-Americanism. It is an endless cycle and the American taxpayer is always left holding the bill. This policy has huge dollar costs at home, which contributes to huge deficits, higher interest rates, inflation, and economic dislocations. War cannot raise the standard of living for the average American.

The day is fast approaching when we no longer will be able to afford this burden. For now foreign governments are willing to loan us the money needed to finance our current account deficit, and indirectly the cost of our worldwide military operations. But economic law eventually will limit our ability to live off others by credit creation. Eventually trust in the dollar will be diminished, if not destroyed. At that point it will become painfully obvious to even the most strident supporter of our interventionist foreign policy that the super-power has become a super-debtor, its power and influence greatly diminished, and its people much poorer and more vulnerable.

It is not too late to change course. The United States can again be viewed as the shining city on the hill and an example to other nations by re-embracing the kind of foreign and economic policies that made us wealthy and admired across the globe in the first place. This means less government, less taxation, and no foreign meddling. Regaining our economic security will go much further toward guaranteeing our national security in the future."

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Explain to me what intellectual is involved in copying and pasting someone else's words...and then finding and posting related youtube clips?

What intelligent-person (or "intellectual")...? One named Ali-Ber. Ali-Ber is an intelligent melanin-dominant man who uses literary, audio and video based facts/scientific-studies (as well as self-experimentation and personal-observation of others' experiences), in conjunction with his brain/mind, to support his positions on issues, to inform the uninformed and misinformed, because he isn't selfish with information, because he's always enthusiastic about learning and teaching, and because Ali-Ber almost lost his life, and suffered for many years, due to being misinformed and uninformed, which causes Ali-Ber to hate to see people dying and suffering due to being misinformed and uninformed.

Look D, everyone of us are in possession of intelligence, but some people refuse to use it (or are physiologically or psychologically impaired in such a way that they are limited in using it), for numerous reasons. In another thread I questioned you on your mental-state in a facetious way, and I offer you my apology for that.

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and what ACTION do you seek to spur?

There are actions that I seek to spur, as well as deter. As it pertains to this particular thread, I seek to spur the actions of being open-minded, becoming more aware of governmental/political actions that are not covered (or covered up) by the corporate-media, of becoming (and making others) aware of the ingenious, yet very simple and practical, strategy called powernomics, and then applying powernomics. What I seek to deter, as it pertains to this thread, are political/governmental naivete and ignorance, relying excessively on government, and I seek to deter the type of integration that deteriorates and suppresses any race or ethnicity, which is the type of integration that Dr. Claud Anderson addresses in the video that I posted.

Peace

Spinster · (#25 (**permalink**))

I seriously considered Ron Paul in the beginning. Much of his platform makes sense, something lacking in politics and in people nowadays. But once I began hearing rumors about racist things being said by his campaign (and possibly him), I was put off. I also knew he didn't have much of a chance of winning (even though it was surprising to see how many people rallied for him). So I decided to vote for the lesser of 2 evils.

Politics in general is shady, conniving, backstabbing, and non-beneficial to the masses. Unfortunately, the masses choose to remain ignorant...... or, if not ignorant of what's really going on, complacent.

Who knows..... maybe he'll try to run again in 2012. Let's see what happens.