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10-01-09, 05:01 PM
i feel ya....but you should not let farakan rile you so much...it is not difficult to that he is bacically a pimp...
you do have the powers that be pegged in their use of psychology against the masses....how do we over come that?
oh and sorry about the masculine gender thing, didn't know...
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10-01-09, 07:44 PM
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i feel ya....but you should not let farakan rile you so much...it is not difficult to that he is bacically a pimp...
you do have the powers that be pegged in their use of psychology against the masses....how do we over come that?
oh and sorry about the masculine gender thing, didn't know...
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Farrakhan is not a pimp. He's told the truth about Black folks and white folks, with stunning candor and insight over the years. If he didn't do anything BUT that, he's done more than most. The NOI which he's run for the past 30 years, has been more successful in turning otherwise useless and parastitic Negroes into productive citizens who are not a drag on the community, than any goverment Social Service program ever thought about doing. What he is, is a hypocrite, (at best), or an overseer sent by Crackers to corral Negroes, in my less kind assessment scenario. He's worse than a pimp to me. He KNOWS the truth, and has spoken it fearlessly and consistently since I can remember,(up through 2007 as a matter of fact), but when Obama came on the scene he switched up and started talking out of his a*s for some reason. When he got called on it, he started twisting the truth to explain away the inconsistency, hence the bullsh*t comments about his IR stance, that got my goat,lol.
Black politicians who exploit Black folks low self esteem and gullibility to get our VOTES and blind support and don't give us anything in return(and tell us straight up that they ain't giving us sh*t, so don't ask for it, which is how you can identify a TRUE pimp,lol) but platitudes and symbolism and allow us to play out our "daddy issues"for lack of a better term, and project our MAJOR self esteem issues onto them for THEIR benefit, are the real pimps. I don't have as much of a problem with them as I do with Farrakhan, as a matter of fact.
As to solutions for how to combat how the powers that be "psycho" the masses as Malcolm termed it, it's hard to say. I try to do my part by hipping folks, but the longer i live the more I'm convinced that the masses WANT to be "psychoed", and wouldn't have it any other way. In fact, this why I believe that certain folks who start out telling the truth and with good intentions eventually say phuck it, These fools are hopeless, develop contempt for us and start joining in the exploitation, including many of our so called leaders and politicians. That's my theory, anyway.
I think the key to most of our problems is lack of self respect and self regard, or feeling that we REALLY deserve anything more thanpeople blowing smoke up our asses. When I talk about self respect, I mean a real, organic, intrinsic, unshakeable self respect/self love that is not contingent on anything external and not up for debate or barter, or prone to be put aside because of distractions/gimmicks/smoke and mirrors. We don't possess that by and large, in spite of all of the chest thumping, and rah rah bullsh*t we insist on engaging in, decade in and decade out. AS long as that's the case, we will be ripe for the picking as they say. NOt only by outsiders, but by those from our own community who are BEST positioned TO exploit us, and who if they are intelligent enough and have been observing us/dealing with us long enough, will have most certainly started to develop contempt for us( even if they didnt' start out with that sentiment), and therefore have no qualms about joining in on the exploitation games.
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10-01-09, 08:05 PM
2 things. As my last post indicates, I don't bend the truth to suit my emotions for the moment. I gave Farrakhan credit for things he deserves credit for. Just because he's NOW on my sh*t list, doesn't mean I'm gonna start lying on him and acting like I"m not aware of the good things he's done. I wish more folks would get down like that but I digress.....
The upshot of my comments on Negro self respect or the lack thereof is that whether as a group or and individual, you have to MAKE folks respect you. Allowing mofos to disrespect you begats MORE disrespect. If a person a a group can sense any soft spot or gaps in how you regard yourself they will treat you accordingly. NOt only will they be inclined to disrespect you in the future, but so will any and everyone who WATCHED them disrespect you. It will go out into the universe that that is the way YOU are to be dealt with and it's hard to un ring that bell, so it's best to set that tone from the jump and not deviate from it.
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10-01-09, 08:07 PM
I agree with whoever said that we need to be more appalled at these killings in general. We need to be appalled at the overall disrespect toward us, including our black and brown girls/women, who rarely get the level of attention that black and brown boys/men do when things like this (and other overall disrespect) occur. We MUST express our outrage more often.
And where are Sharpton and Jackson (and those others) now? Ain't heard shit from them yet (correct me if I'm wrong). Not one bit surprised.
If the person you present to the world is acutely different from the person you are in private life, then something is either wrong with the world or with you. --Bryan Gibson
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10-01-09, 08:15 PM
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I agree with whoever said that we need to be more appalled at these killings in general. We need to be appalled at the overall disrespect toward us, including our black and brown girls/women, who rarely get the level of attention that black and brown boys/men do when things like this (and other overall disrespect) occur. We MUST express our outrage more often.
And where are Sharpton and Jackson (and those others) now? Ain't heard shit from them yet (correct me if I'm wrong). Not one bit surprised.
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Why should they speak about it? Haven't they've been told to go kick rocks by Negroes? How come the messiah can't handle this one?......So now Sharpton and Jackson are getting ethered for NOT "inserting" themselves in the situation or chasing the cameras or publicity? Black folks are unreal,lol. According to Crackers and their Negro minions, Sharpton and Jackson "create" these situations for their own special benefit,lol. BTW, Sharpton HAS spoken about the situation. Not sure if Jackson has or not.
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10-01-09, 08:21 PM
As far as I know, they haven't been told to "kick rocks". They're still the Super Negroes of the general Black populace. And if by messiah you mean PE Obama, I have no comment.
And isn't life just that way - damned if you do and damned if you don't, as I apparently am by writing what I just said prior?
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Why should they speak about it? Haven't they've been told to go kick rocks by Negroes? How come the messiah can't handle this one?......So now Sharpton and Jackson are getting ethered for NOT "inserting" themselves in the situation or chasing the cameras or publicity? Black folks are unreal,lol. According to Crackers and their Negro minions, Sharpton and Jackson "create" these situations for their own special benefit,lol. BTW, Sharpton HAS spoken about the situation. Not sure if Jackson has or not.
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If the person you present to the world is acutely different from the person you are in private life, then something is either wrong with the world or with you. --Bryan Gibson
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10-01-09, 08:22 PM
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10-01-09, 08:25 PM
one man's pimp is another man's preacher...
G. the magnitude of our (black) problem is not so much over whelming but fractured into so many parcels with a myriad of agendas that blood suckers as you say that are in our midst.
i wonder how would our people react if they were all of a sudden enlightened to what you are trying to open their eyes to?
i escaped the California drug scene in '76 after a brush with death and a threat on my family. i had seen the light. all because i blurted out opposition against what i saw happening in the projects of the city i was living in. Welfare checks and these young girls equaled these little thugs that cropped up in the early 80s.
I hit the streets and like you said, negroes laugh at you and call you a fool when go against the prevailing attitude...
old farakan is not all bad, his drug interdiction program is a good thing....but he has tendacies just like most (not all) of our 'top' flight brothers and sisters who are padding their nest in the long run.
even that stupid azz guy standing in the pulpit said somethings that are rigth, but he said some deadly....
what do we do G....?
i think for myself, so after listening to you enlightenment i am not left in a lurch...but for those who are in the middle...what is their "path forward"...
in other words, "now that I know this, where do i go from here...?"
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10-01-09, 08:30 PM
I'm surprised, but yet not all THAT surprised, that he was allowed to resign and walk away scot-free.
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10-01-09, 08:42 PM
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I'm surprised, but yet not all THAT surprised, that he was allowed to resign and walk away scot-free.
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no charges have been filed or no charges will be filed...?
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10-01-09, 08:47 PM
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As far as I know, they haven't been told to "kick rocks". They're still the Super Negroes of the general Black populace. And if by messiah you mean PE Obama, I have no comment.
And isn't life just that way - damned if you do and damned if you don't, as I apparently am by writing what I just said prior?
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They most certainly HAVE been told to go kick rocks by plenty of Negroes, including some on this Board. They have had their "sell by date" status and relevancy debated. Crackers didn't even let the messiah get inaugurated good, before they commenced to disabusing the foolish among the Negro populace of their simple minded notions. You gotta love em....white folks that is.....regular as rain they are...
You are right, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't which is why they should continue to do their thing thing and ignore the simple minded, gullible, fickle Negro masses.
My main issue with YOUR comment was that you admitted to not knowing whether these men had spoken about the incident or not, yet still felt it necessary to say "i'm not the least bit surprised". Shouldn't you KNOW whether or not they had commented before you expressed not being surprised that they didn't comment? You came to the thing with a negative prejudgment of them that was not only not based in truth it was based in non logic. Most Crackers and their negro parrots take issue with these two BECAUSE they always comment on these types of things, yet you indicated that you would not have been surprised if they kept their mouths shut. The surprise would have been if they DIDN'T comment, which means that your last comment was an unnecessary, baseless and nonsensical jab/swipe at Jackson and Sharpton, which is generally the case with the comments Black folks make about them, in my experience.
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10-01-09, 09:04 PM
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10-01-09, 09:06 PM
Excerpt from News report posted above...
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Oakland City Councilwoman Desley Brooks said BART appeared to be trying to cover up the incident and alleged, "There was a failure to communicate and acknowledge the taking of a life,' KPIX reports.
At the mayor's request, the Oakland Police Department launched an investigation into the shooting Thursday. Alameda County District Attorney Tom Orloff, whose office also is investigating, said he probably would decide within two weeks whether to file charges.
Transit police officer Johannes Mehserle was initially placed on paid leave. He resigned from the BART police force Wednesday, but officials say he has refused to speak with the transit agency's investigators. He has not spoken publicly about the incident.
Mehserle's attorney, Christopher Miller, declined to comment on the investigations.
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If the above is TRUE..then The BART PD, and tHe Mayors office ought to be flippin ashamed..how in the hell can this man be ALLOWED to RESIGN, and then NOT explain or comment about his actions that took a life...its an utter disgrace!!!!
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10-01-09, 09:17 PM
I think dellums has to say more...
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10-01-09, 09:43 PM
Okay.  Guess I'm a typical Negro parrot who makes unnecessary, baseless, and nonsensical jabs then. It's clear that since I'm a typical Negro parrot that my comments in this thread will be picked apart, so enjoy.
From a deluded Negro. 
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Originally Posted by Gmahogany777
They most certainly HAVE been told to go kick rocks by plenty of Negroes, including some on this Board. They have had their "sell by date" status and relevancy debated. Crackers didn't even let the messiah get inaugurated good, before they commenced to disabusing the foolish among the Negro populace of their simple minded notions. You gotta love em....white folks that is.....regular as rain they are...
You are right, they are damned if they do and damned if they don't which is why they should continue to do their thing thing and ignore the simple minded, gullible, fickle Negro masses.
My main issue with YOUR comment was that you admitted to not knowing whether these men had spoken about the incident or not, yet still felt it necessary to say "i'm not the least bit surprised". Shouldn't you KNOW whether or not they had commented before you expressed not being surprised that they didn't comment? You came to the thing with a negative prejudgment of them that was not only not based in truth it was based in non logic. Most Crackers and their negro parrots take issue with these two BECAUSE they always comment on these types of things, yet you indicated that you would not have been surprised if they kept their mouths shut. The surprise would have been if they DIDN'T comment, which means that your last comment was an unnecessary, baseless and nonsensical jab/swipe at Jackson and Sharpton, which is generally the case with the comments Black folks make about them, in my experience.
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10-01-09, 09:52 PM
As a President you naturally have power to change things and FAST if the will is really there. If Obama does not bring in laws to make these spineless barstards accountable for their actions regardless of resignations etc, and doesn't make it harder for them to continuously cover this shit up, then he would have just acted the same as all previous Presidents have.
People voted on his slogan "Its time for change", well these are the challenges he has to win in order to change things.
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10-01-09, 10:01 PM
give me an example of how he can change things fast...any president...
i am not defending what stew obama has cooked up, but i don't think many of us understand what the office of president really is...basically a bully pulpit...now in the case of emergencies they have power and can do damage...
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10-01-09, 10:11 PM
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give me an example of how he can change things fast...any president...
i am not defending what stew obama has cooked up, but i don't think many of us understand what the office of president really is...basically a bully pulpit...now in the case of emergencies they have power and can do damage...
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How about the amount of Terror laws which have been pushed through like yesterday for starters. Dont tell me these people cant change things FAST "if the will is there". |
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10-01-09, 10:15 PM
emergency war powers....
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10-01-09, 10:21 PM
Furthermore these mutha fuggers ( i love that yanky term...lol) have just spent millions of dollars of citizens donations to get elected, on the basis that things would change. So why would you want, after just seeing a man get executed in public, to provide excuses for them.
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10-01-09, 10:33 PM
your emotions are showing through....what excuses am i making....
give me an idea of what obama could do today to change this situation...
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10-01-09, 10:48 PM
You better believe my emotions are running high because the Police Force is still a safe house for white supremacist mutha fuggers in both America and the UK.
Meknow, when i put my car in the garage, I'm less concerned about how they fix it than i am them actually fixing it. Its a President/Prime Ministers job to change things, thats the privilege and expectation my vote warrants me.
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10-01-09, 10:53 PM
it is bad and lonely to assume that no one else is upset about it.....
but you did not give us any suggestion of what obama could do immediately to effect this situation....
forgot....
don't try to roll on me as not caring because we differ on the issue of presidential powers...
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10-01-09, 10:58 PM
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As a President you naturally have power to change things and FAST if the will is really there. If Obama does not bring in laws to make these spineless barstards accountable for their actions regardless of resignations etc, and doesn't make it harder for them to continuously cover this shit up, then he would have just acted the same as all previous Presidents have.
People voted on his slogan "Its time for change", well these are the challenges he has to win in order to change things.
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Are you for real??
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10-01-09, 11:07 PM
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it is bad and lonely to assume that no one else is upset about it.....
but you did not give us any suggestion of what obama could do immediately to effect this situation....
forgot....
don't try to roll on me as not caring because we differ on the issue of presidential powers...
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I think its you who's doing the assuming because where in my post does it indicate that i believe you or anyone else doesnt care. I do however think you instantly provided a platform for much of the same benign results previous Presidents have provided for the public by alluding that things cant be done to solve things. This i happen to disagree with, so dont get it all twisted bro.
I didnt answer what i thought Obama should do, because that would be to lead off on a pathway totally away from the point. Who gives a shit what he does, and how he does it, above and beyond him actually doing it. When laws get pushed through quickly i think you'll find that normal bureaucratic procedures actually are overlooked if the will is strong enough, so unless ive worked in the government, which i havent, why would i want to try and break this down.
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