video.........deat recorded on camera phone







Oscar Grant.........being handcuffed......shot dead

Seriously, it never ends does it.

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they should bankrupt who ever hired the guy who shoot him and take his shyt after jailing him. this flim takes out any doubt that any jury could possibly have...

SOMEone will find something in the video to doubt.

Meknow i prey you're right but remember Rodney King.?

That's a case of murder plain and simple. But that doesn't mean the cops will be found guilty. They rarely are. I'm thinking of Jean Charles de Menzes here, nuff witnesses to the shooting, all blaming police and so on and those fuggers still got off.

I can even see how this trial would go. The snake devils would have a lawyer focus on why the arrest was happening, how bad a person the victim was and all that crap. The routine never changes.

Any idiot can see that police man murdered him, and despite what the family lawyer says that was blatantly a race thing. That cop would have NEVER dreamed of shooting a white boy like that. Any idiot can see it. But then that don't mean justice will get done.

I agree with all that. The defense attorney "if they do find cause" to try them will have a task on hand. I am from this country and lived at the end of the times in which it was worse than it is now if you can believe it.

There is no excuse for what I see in the video (but I am not the judge or jury). I did not count the number of officers but I would estimate at least 5. The only justification that I could derive from an officer having to use deadly force would have been if the young man would have had a weapon or was going for one.

As bad as some black youth act in the face of being apprehended by police nothing visible or psychological could justify what is seen on this film.

having fought with state troopers in Louisiana in the sixties, I know what they can and will do to you.

There is one lesson that has yet to be learned by some of our youth and that is that you do not bow up to someone with a gun....

There is no excuse for this murder......

Hmmm...it's interesting to see the attempted spin that news report tried to...well you know.

Here's raw footage from a 'better' angle. I see all the suspects conforming and behaving themselves. YMMV, come to your own conclusions.

I kept trying to tell election induced deluded Negroes that the ascendancy of the annointed one didn't have jacksh*t to do with how white folks view or treat THEIR Black asses. They view you way more like they view the Negroes ya'll were so eager to throw under the bus, than they will ever view you like the singular,clean, messiah,lol. In fact, students of history would know that treatment of the average Black person often WORSENS after some great movement "forward" by one or two selected few;Black folks elected to Congress in the South right after slavery for instance. The Klan made it's ascension during that time, among other oppresive entities. That has been white folks modus operandi since we've been on these shores. That's why it ain't too smart to start acting all amnesiastic ,desperate and foolish like Negroes did during this campaign.

Not to worry though, the usual crew of "past their sell by date, rabble rousing, publicity seeking" "agitators" whose services were supposedly no longer needed(not if Crackers have anything to say about it,lol), but who folks in Oakland are already ASKING to get involved, will get involved with this and try make sure SOMETHING gets done about it.

Surprisingly enough I think most people here have given up on justice. The only sizable way to hurt someone here is their pockets. If you cry for justice this police man can get probation.

For instance RECENTLY, one guy here killed an AA gov't code enforcement worker hid the body and dismembered it. Then somehow instead of getting life this cat only got 15 years

Or

A kid was killed last year by a cop claiming he had a gun yet everyone else says the kid had a soda can and pop bottle.

Al Sharpton showed up, marches on justice were made, rallys were held and still the family did not get JUSTICE.

The fact is usually the only way to get JUSTICE here is a successful lawsuit. Because even if you are found guilty you can plea down to manslaughter and do only a year and a half to two and a half years and even less if you have been in jail since your arrest (time served).

I hear everybody's views.

My thoughts....police officers are public servants..paid out of everyone's tax dollars to protect and serve....

the use of deadly force should only be used by cops when they or the general public are in danger.....

there should be less lethal means for officers to confront and subdue suspects...mace,pepper spray, tasers....

gun shouldn't have even been drawn......






I don't think one person in america thought obama's election meant the end of racism or deadly police brutality. People have been fed up for so long that ,agree with it or not, obama's election gives them a glimmer of hope in this crazy world...
people need something to believe in sometime and until/unless mr. obama abuses that trust the people have in him.....I don't see much wrong with even the most over the top obama worship..

people are f*cked up, the country is too, and if they need to build shrines to barack to get through the day...hey...let them do it....the church has been serving that purpose for our people since we were brought over to this part of the world
if obama is a fraud or charlatan...what doesn't come out in the wash......comes out in the rinse...

that new video shows it really well.

however, i know ill receive alot of stick for this.. but it seems to show that it was a mistake? i also read somewhere that statements are claiming that he meant to use his taser??

from the video we can see that the office obviously Reached for something on his holster.. which seemed totally unneeded.. even if it was for his taser. taser or not, this man didnt deserve to be in any pain as if kneeling on his neck wasnt painful enough. perhaps the only resistance he put up was trying to explain himself..but for the police in that situation it was futile as once they attempt to put u down they will keep u down.

regardless of the police defence.. mistake, taser or not.. a man is dead who put up little or no resistance, was not in anyway a threat to them, was handcuffed, face down, unarmed, and being arrested by 4 armed officers... who should know where their taser is, and their gun..

exactly.. it reminds me of when the same damn people convinced me i was "wreckless" when i threw something unintentionally and it hit someone.

thankfully i had a good samaritan lawyer who told me that wreckless is a heavy term legally. in that it means you intentionally took the action regardless of the consequences and possibility that someone could get hurt even if you didnt MEAN to hurt the person who eventually did get hurt. the penalty for "wrecklessness" could be anything from a fine to imprisonment depending on what the injury was.

wtf... see how a simple confession could have affected me as i just thought it was a simple word. so i rejected my initial claim and stated i was not guilty and it was unintentional.. i won.

so now.. this man was clearly WRECKLESS not negligent.

ANOTHER shooting incident from the same night...different state

Dec. 31...TEXAS


victim lives this time Robbie Tolan, shot outside his own driveway

at this point i do not see racism other than a white guy shot the black guy. i do see gross negligence...and there is no way a gun can be mistaken for a taser....the company who hired this ******* is liable and he ought to be tried and convicted for murder in some degree.

i agree that we ought to be more appalled at the killings period, not just these high profile. there is a case going on right here today and is being given to the jury where one of us shot another.

i remember that not much was said when it happened in any of the communities. no one protested, did not seem like much grieving. only the talk of payback....

damn G, you make this awfully complicated...i can't see all that drama...

i did see black people getting caught up in the moment, but i think somewhere in the mouth foaming lurch some people started mentioning that not much will change for the better racially on Jan. 20 after Obama lowers his right hand.

i am sure though that there are black folk who do think that this will some how make some changes for the better between races....G those people will always be with us.

I looked into Obama's eyes a few days ago and I now believe that he has seen the light and should have allowed either hillary clinton or preferably the GOP have this sucker...

his damn hands are full....he has hounds nipping at his hells of all ilk. even before the poor son of a gun has signed a bill he is already being put up for impeachment.

I actually don't think white guilt is so much the reason so many whites voted for him...oh yeah some were caught up in the moment for sure but the emphasis on voting for him against Maccain was buhs. buhs more than anything elected Obama.

I like your analytical ability G, but you are using too much acid here bro...