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Prince Harry, caught making Racist comments are you surprised ? -
11-01-09, 03:57 PM
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11-01-09, 04:05 PM
I don't really care to be honest, that's their (asian community) issue to take up with him.
Because someone's the son of a supposed humanitarian means nothing.
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11-01-09, 04:40 PM
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11-01-09, 06:20 PM
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Since he parties in Nazi costume where is the suprise?
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11-01-09, 06:45 PM
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Since he parties in Nazi costume where is the suprise?
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11-01-09, 06:57 PM
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Since he parties in Nazi costume where is the suprise?
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After seeing those pictures in his nazi uniform, it doesn't surprise me about his latest comments. |
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11-01-09, 08:56 PM
I didn't know paki was a racist term. but then again I don't live in an area with a lot of non "oriental" asians. (I was kidding about "oriental" lol!) But people need to lighten up. You know people talk about white folk and blue-foot that.
Everyone talks about everyone. Maybe he didn't feel like saying Pakistani...can someone explain to me why Paki is derogatory?
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11-01-09, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by New Improved Morris
Afriki
"Paki" is only a derogatory word if it is meant that way. And you're right. What's the difference between talking about a "Paki" and a "Blue Foot"? Nothing. As a Blue foot, I ain't that bothered.
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Afriki: Excuse me for CORRECTING Morris here, but I seriously beg to differ, I have yet to hear of anyone being called a Bluefoot and then have that followed by a kicking... Paki..is derogatory in the fact that is was meant as a put down and historically in this country Paki bashing was almost a national sport....
Now personally I doubt if many Pakistani's would have taken offence, or would be outraged at the comment and personally I could give a toss...
I think again contradicting Morris, the real point is not the comments, but (a) the culture in which it was festered, trust me it wasn't a positive one.. and (b) the act of betrayal of a 'friend' who effectively sold Harry because THEY must have equally been in on the banter and did NOTHING at the time....so whoever leaked this story is as dispicable as Harry if truth be told!!!
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11-01-09, 09:49 PM
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Sorry k, it's context. If you shout out "Paki" to a stranger in the street, it is threatening and offensive. If, in the context of a friendship, you make a comment about a friend's ethnicity, that is very difficult to comment on whether they sould be offended.
I don't believe that one should use words like that. But I don't believe that Harry's a bad person. And at least he's even-handed. He offends Jews and Muslims.
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Ok point excepted, I also don't believe that Prince Harry is an out and out evil person, however I would struggle to see how calling someone a Paki, could be called being descriptive... I'd say he was being thoughtless and offensive to be one of the boys.. Hopefully he would have learnt his lesson...
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11-01-09, 10:36 PM
Y'all crack me up! I know if i'm saying blue-foot cracker or greys i'm being racist because there are other words i could damn well use to describe my white 'friend'.
Harry thought he could get away with the swastika because of who he is, just like he thought he could get away with calling that cadet a paki with no repercussions from him or anyone around them. It would be the same if one of his friends were black only the word would begin with an 'n'.
I don't give a damn about racism against asians either, but i always make a note of where its coming from, because i know they have less respect for black people than they do asians
Its only a matter of time before Harry's racism is aimed at a black person, wonder if you will all think he's not an evil person then???
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11-01-09, 11:39 PM
Paternalistic crap from the "prince".
Can't wait for Obama's first UK visit as US president.
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11-01-09, 11:58 PM
LOL can i take it now that all those who shouted me down a few yrs ago for saying that the terms such as Bluefoot and Cracker are deorgotory terms and if you use them you are setting yourself up for accusation of trying to have your cake and eat it too. (i doubt very much i will get agreeance on this)
Dont agree that this case with Harry was just a bit of light hearted banter, therefore it was harmeless non-racist even. Even if that was his intention its still a racist term which offends many therefore its taboo, end of story. I could get all deep with the history behind these things but i shouldnt have to, these points should be sufficient independantly.
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12-01-09, 12:00 AM
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Paternalistic crap from the "prince".
Can't wait for Obama's first UK visit as US president.
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12-01-09, 12:26 AM
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Who's private conversations would always bear up to public scrutiny? Who hasn't talked about going to the "Paki" shop for some crisps?!
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ME! Nobody I know chats like that. The paki shop... what are you a fugging bnp member? GTFO
Paki is a seriously racist term you idiot. It's up there with Wog and if you'd been alive 5 minutes you would know that. That word is never spoken of in any terms except hatred and derision. Paki go home spray painted everywhere when I was growing up. I live and grew up in east london around lots of asians and I'd love to hear you come down here and chat your paki crap.
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12-01-09, 12:56 AM
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He plainly didn't mean any harm. It all depends on the context and the intent. He didn't mean to be offensive about his friend. It was three years ago and he was young.
The "politically correct" brigade should get a sence of perspective. There are people dying in Gaza. Who's private conversations would always bear up to public scrutiny? Who hasn't talked about going to the "Paki" shop for some crisps? It doesn't mean that you don't like them, or that you want to join the BNP.
For God's sake people!
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yeah and if he said " thats morris.. our little n***** friend" he clearly woudlnt have meant any harm either right?
this "politically correct " brigade are the ones who constantly seek for fairness and tolerance, and a change to the majority ignorant, racist, zenophopic attitudes prevalent in the UK. thank goodness for the politically correct brigade.. and god save the politically inept brigade like yourselves who would be the first to call on the PC brigade when you need them
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12-01-09, 12:59 AM
okaaayy... so is "Paki" to "Pakistani" on the same or higher level of offensiveness as "Jew" is for "Jewish?"
I seriously thought Paki was just short for Pakistani and didn't realize it was considered racist.
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12-01-09, 01:00 AM
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"Paki" is only a derogatory word if it is meant that way. And you're right. What's the difference between talking about a "Paki" and a "Blue Foot"? Nothing. As a Blue foot, I ain't that bothered.
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Thankyou for the explanation.
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12-01-09, 01:13 AM
I agree with Morris, it is about context. The guy is from Pakistani for crying out loud and as far as Pakistanis are concerned Paki is short for Pakistani. It is only in Britain that this word has a history of racist connotations. Harry is not racist, at the time he was an immature, not quite bright young man trying to fit in with the boys. The whole issue has been taking all out of proportion. You really need to take into account the context and the intent. Puleeeease people.
This was three years ago, why has it come out now. Is this another way for the media to distract us from the real atrocities that is happening around the world.
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12-01-09, 01:19 AM
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I agree with Morris, it is about context. The guy is from Pakistani for crying out loud and as far as Pakistanis are concerned Paki is short for Pakistani. It is only in Britain that this word has a history of racist connotations. Harry is not racist, at the time he was an immature, not quite bright young man trying to fit in with the boys. The whole issue has been taking all out of proportion. You really need to take into account the context and the intent. Puleeeease people.
This was three years ago, why has it come out now. Is this another way for the media to distract us from the real atrocities that is happening around the world.
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paki is not short for pakistani, actually it is.. in the same way n11gga was created as a short form or negro, and spic for hispanic. are you finally englightened now? if the guy was from india he wouldnt say thats my little indi friend, or if from jamaica my little jam friend. stop being silly by defending this idiotic behavior.
theres over reacting and then theres being plain stupid
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12-01-09, 01:40 AM
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"Paki" is only a derogatory word if it is meant that way. And you're right. What's the difference between talking about a "Paki" and a "Blue Foot"? Nothing. As a Blue foot, I ain't that bothered.
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Oh do go away you silly person!
A RACIST usually intends to de derogratory to those he/she is racist against. That is the nature of the beast. Racists demonstrate their RACIST nature and attitude in different ways (the use of certain language is one such way).
So, 'as a blue foot you are not bothered being referred to as such' eh?
How big of you.
Anyway it figures. Since you, as a white person, cannot EXPERIENCE RACISM, I am not particularly surprised.
And so what if Harry is a racist?.....Can't say I am bothered. It is something that is inherent nature to most whites (some people may say all), so I wouldn't expect Harry to be anything but a Racist.
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12-01-09, 02:05 AM
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paki is not short for pakistani, actually it is.. in the same way n11gga was created as a short form or negro, and spic for hispanic. are you finally englightened now? if the guy was from india he wouldnt say thats my little indi friend, or if from jamaica my little jam friend. stop being silly by defending this idiotic behavior.
theres over reacting and then theres being plain stupid
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Startling that there are black people who do not know/relaise this! |
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12-01-09, 06:20 AM
Afriki you're being misled by a blatant racist. Paki is not like saying Jew. It's more like saying Kyke.
Next we'll be hearing how jiggaboo and junglebunny are benign jokes too and how ******s overreact to innocent spearchuker jibes.
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12-01-09, 10:42 AM
The article didn't mention that he used the word 'raghead' too. If that isn't a racist word, then what is? Will he get a pass from the populace like he has with paki?
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12-01-09, 01:18 PM
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How sanctimonious!
Get over yourself.
If you had bothered to read my post you would have seen that I quite CLEARLY say that I don't think that Harry should have used the word. I also say that I don't think it's a nice word to use. But we all say things occasionally that we wouldn't want broadcast on the news.
It's all about intent and context.
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...exactly, and when we say these things we are being OFFENSIVE. Just like he was.
There is no other intent with using any racial slur other than to cause offense. In the context of a white man talking about a Asian man else could it have been?? On the news this morning they were trying to say that its the same as saying Brit or Jock for Scotsman or calling Harry himself Ging becaus he has red hair - Pure Bullshit!!!
Its a pity they didn't have a black or gay cadet there, wonder what would have came out of his mouth and called 'banter'! |
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12-01-09, 02:51 PM
Oh the convenience.
Seems staged to me.
I see this as possibly an attempt to get stupid people's focus away from the Gaza happenings, especially the Muslims/Pakistanis.
Similar to the BART shooting in Oakland.
The same thing happened exactly 3 years ago when Harry also conveniently turned up in a swastika, which means he must be a jew-hating Nazi (sarcasm).
Just the mainstream media playin' you fools again.
...while Jewish businessmen buy up hectacres of land in Sudan...
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