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08-02-10, 07:30 PM
Nothing about this story smells right.
From what i can understand he came into a restaurant to have dinner with his wife. Before long a second man enters demanding money for work he had done on Ali Dizaei website. But the events that follow are bizarre. The lone man said something and that what got him angry? The perp went outside ate some magic potion and got real brave went back sitting in the restaurant while Dizaei places up & down. Finally the perp inflates his chest one last time and they go outside with multiple CCTV cameras. Maybe to get the evidence his superiors wanted so they could nail Dizaei. Why would a police commander be so careless as to make this blunder? Unless the exchange was so personal that it rocked him off guard.
Dizaei calls for back up and, is met on the other end, by an obtuse woman who can't even take details down? Is he the local commander or not? Finally why did the media not talk about the other man and why he went into the restaurant in the first place. The media is spinning this to make it appear Dizaei went looking for a fight, while the perp was just sitting in the restaurant minding is biz. This whole thing as classic covert warfare written all over it.
Anyway this story just don't feel right to me. From my logical stand point the man was set up for dodging that trial back in 2003.
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08-02-10, 09:45 PM
When you got the Met Police Commissioner, the Crown Prosecution Service, and the Independent Police Complaints Commission all lining up to condemn Dizaei as unequivocally as they have, you know they wanted him taken out badly. Not that often you hear them all singing from the same hymn sheet like that, against a police officer. And for what? Distinct whiff of payback around this....
There will also be those who would say that he brought it on himself to some extent.....maybe didn't take care of business as well as someone as exposed as he is should do.....bit like the Lee Jasper situation, tho more extreme.......
His family will miss him, but not sure who else......
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09-02-10, 12:58 PM
SoulRebel the vibe i get from this whole episode is akin to a witch hunt. The man has worked hard earned a Phd in criminology, worked his way up to become commander. Which i understand is not easy, since the Met is institutionalist racist. Come 2003 they try and push a "corruption" charge on him that fails to stick. Now 2008 in comes a perp (off the street) starts demanding money for something he had done on Dizaei website. Then the exchange becomes heated, they both go outside were there are CCTV cameras. And yet we are not allowed to see this part. What did the perp really say to him that got him so vexed, we know it was not money.
Don't you think Dizeai would have recognised the perp if they truly had a business relationship? the conversation would have been straight forward. But no, something else happened that night, the perp was not there to "demand money". I believe Dizeai was set up for escaping the 2003 investigation. The speed of the whole thing, just adds to my suspicions. The man was a victim of a very insidious covert plan, would not surprise me if he was harassed (with Electronic weapons) before the 2008 showdown.
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09-02-10, 09:25 PM
YES...he was set up..4 years..U know what it's all about personal responsibility...you know they lost millions of taxpayers money in the case he won..and he should have been watching his back...but u can never really hide from what u really are...soon those demons catch up with you...its happened to many people in the spotlight..
Take John Terry...
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09-02-10, 10:01 PM
I am sorry but what a crock of S.hite, at what point does common
sense and self discipline kick in here.... This man is typical of the sort of mass stupidity and arrogant blindness that has afflicted many of the post immigrant population who appear to BELIEVE that they can do exactly as the WHITE boy and not get a kicking...
Lets be honest Daizel was a big arse grown man who is supposed to be 'intelligent'.. So at what point after to get not one, not two
, not even three lucky escapes do you NOT get that maybe one needs to keep your arse quiet....
So what does this p.rick do?..not only does he get into a meaningless arguement over £600, he then tries to 'fit up the guy' *smacks forehead with palm of hand* worse the prick does it on CAMERA WTF!!!!! Talk about s.hit for brains...
Sorry but i don't want to hear conspiracy, i don't want to hear witch hunt theories and i certainly don't want to hear nothing 'bout corrupt systems....
Sometimes if one act like they have s.hit for brains one cannlot be surprised if one day someone makes you pay fpor going to the well once too bloody often....
Daizel is a grade A p.rick, leading a.rsehole of the year and he deserves everything he got for forgetting what it took to get him where he was and for squandering all that hardwork for pride...
Please do not waste either your pity or your time on this fool or any other fools who behaves like he did.... and for godsake stop making excuses for idiots who do not learn the obvious lessons...
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09-02-10, 11:31 PM
Kunjufu, I have to side with you on this one bro. I really don't understand the cries of 'fit up' and 'conspiracy' at all.
Sure, there is no denying that the establishment wanted to kick his ass to the kerb and were probably sniffing his behind on a daily basis for the slightest whiff of anything that resembles a 'reason'.
Sure, his punishment (ultmately) is probably ten times more severe as what he would have got were he a white officer - so what's new?
But let's face it, the guy - like a damn fool - ended up giving them their 'just cause' on a plate with this his fool-ass antics. All this over £600, which is what it boils down to really.
I could have bought the 'CONSPIRACY/FIT UP' line had it not been for the lame brain stunts he pulled on the guy. He, like so many non-whites who get into positions of power/influence assumed that the same 'RULES' applied to him as to whites in his position i.e. that he could get away with pulling all manner of dodgy dealings under the protective cover of his office.
I just can't feel sorry for this joker.
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10-02-10, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kunjufu
I am sorry but what a crock of S.hite, at what point does common
sense and self discipline kick in here.... This man is typical of the sort of mass stupidity and arrogant blindness that has afflicted many of the post immigrant population who appear to BELIEVE that they can do exactly as the WHITE boy and not get a kicking...
Lets be honest Daizel was a big arse grown man who is supposed to be 'intelligent'.. So at what point after to get not one, not two
, not even three lucky escapes do you NOT get that maybe one needs to keep your arse quiet....
So what does this p.rick do?..not only does he get into a meaningless arguement over £600, he then tries to 'fit up the guy' *smacks forehead with palm of hand* worse the prick does it on CAMERA WTF!!!!! Talk about s.hit for brains...
Sorry but i don't want to hear conspiracy, i don't want to hear witch hunt theories and i certainly don't want to hear nothing 'bout corrupt systems....
Sometimes if one act like they have s.hit for brains one cannlot be surprised if one day someone makes you pay fpor going to the well once too bloody often....
Daizel is a grade A p.rick, leading a.rsehole of the year and he deserves everything he got for forgetting what it took to get him where he was and for squandering all that hardwork for pride...
Please do not waste either your pity or your time on this fool or any other fools who behaves like he did.... and for godsake stop making excuses for idiots who do not learn the obvious lessons...
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I understand his character and judgement have played a significant role in his downfall. But the question still stands, the man was taken out with lighting speed, given a harsher punishment than say a white officer. Why a small confrontation can result in the destruction of a whole career?
What we don't truly know is if the perp (Baghdadi) was working with the cops that night. working hard to get a reaction from Dizaei, so unleashing a whole chain of events that ended up with him looking the bad guy & the perp looking innocent. I've seen too many cases where the good guy is masqueraded as the villain while the perp walks free, only years later, to find that was not the case. Sometimes the perp is dispensable and could get killed in such confrontations.
To ignore the elements of covert warfare launched against Dizaei is a dangerous one. One day you could be in an executive eating dinner with your wife and in comes a perp, now you have to explain to your superiors why the perp is dead.
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10-02-10, 07:29 PM
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I understand his character and judgement have played a significant role in his downfall. But the question still stands, the man was taken out with lighting speed, given a harsher punishment than say a white officer. Why a small confrontation can result in the destruction of a whole career?
What we don't truly know is if the perp (Baghdadi) was working with the cops that night. working hard to get a reaction from Dizaei, so unleashing a whole chain of events that ended up with him looking the bad guy & the perp looking innocent. I've seen too many cases where the good guy is masqueraded as the villain while the perp walks free, only years later, to find that was not the case. Sometimes the perp is dispensable and could get killed in such confrontations.
To ignore the elements of covert warfare launched against Dizaei is a dangerous one. One day you could be in an executive eating dinner with your wife and in comes a perp, now you have to explain to your superiors why the perp is dead.
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Really are you being SERIOUS? it was lightening s[peed because Daizel attempted to have 'fit the guy up'.... Further even if i agreed with your theory, the FACT remains that the agent provocateur did not force Daizel to do business with him, he did not force Daizel to loose his composure, he did not force daizel to arrest him under false pretences and he certainly did not force daizel to drag his arse to the police station and then to decide to book the guy into the station himself.... Come on now...have you really thought this theory through logically..........The truth is the fool did for himself and did it in spectacular fashion....
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11-02-10, 05:32 PM
Ex-commander Ali Desaei is NOT BLACK FFS!! He was born in Iran and came to the UK when he was 7. He's Persian. Why he gets counted as black I don't know. He isn't African or African-Carrib and yet gets to be boss of the Black Police Association! I guess the n*****r cops are too dumb to run their own association so they need to get a pale face to pretend to be black and do it for them. Anyways, I hope he has a fun time in jail and maybe they can get an actual Black person to lead the BPA now.
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12-02-10, 04:21 PM
so let guess anytime people make complaints about the corruption and blatant racism by the police force er ... sorry service you gonna get accused of pulling the 'race card' when you are blatantly being picked on because of your race, so what I guess there is no instutional (sp) racism now huh! The MacPhearson (sp) report was just a pack of lies, we were all making it up, KMT Ali Dizeai has been taken out by convert means, this whole thing stinks, the establishment has been mad at him ever since he shamed them up in 2003.

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13-02-10, 09:55 PM
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so let guess anytime people make complaints about the corruption and blatant racism by the police force er ... sorry service you gonna get accused of pulling the 'race card' when you are blatantly being picked on because of your race, so what I guess there is no instutional (sp) racism now huh! The MacPhearson (sp) report was just a pack of lies, we were all making it up, KMT Ali Dizeai has been taken out by convert means, this whole thing stinks, the establishment has been mad at him ever since he shamed them up in 2003.
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Thank you. This was what i tried to convey to the people that showed up to this thread. The question is not about his race or religion, but the easy dismissal of a police commander, without any real weight brought against him as to why his career had to end so easy. Fit the guy up? please, the perp was the one who fit Dizeai up that night. A whole operation was launched against him that evening, ending in him losing his job. Which is what they wanted. Another example of how tightly controlled this system is. I hope the Black police officer union take lessons from this and keep a keen eye out for other type of operation that they will launch. They will not be happy until they shut-down the Black police association.
People are fixated on his race, ethnic background, which is a side issue. The man was a COMMANDER not a low ranking police man, or some common fool. The gravity of this is what many are missing. How can you remove someone that has spent years working in an institution, we all know is racist, without much due diligence. However, fail to see at the same time he was taken out covertly. This is the point i wanted to debate and have discussed, not small minded bullshit issue that has no bearing on the truth. Covert warfare is real, and this man is a prime example of this. I have experienced some covert warfare myself, it is not fun nor is it something you would take lightly. Considering we are all behind enemy lines, stuck in harms way, should we not take this seriously.
I hope all keep to this when reply to my thread, otherwise silence is golden, no?
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14-02-10, 12:27 AM
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Thank you. This was what i tried to convey to the people that showed up to this thread. The question is not about his race or religion, but the easy dismissal of a police commander, without any real weight brought against him as to why his career had to end so easy. Fit the guy up? please, the perp was the one who fit Dizeai up that night. A whole operation was launched against him that evening, ending in him losing his job. Which is what they wanted. Another example of how tightly controlled this system is. I hope the Black police officer union take lessons from this and keep a keen eye out for other type of operation that they will launch. They will not be happy until they shut-down the Black police association.
People are fixated on his race, ethnic background, which is a side issue. The man was a COMMANDER not a low ranking police man, or some common fool. The gravity of this is what many are missing. How can you remove someone that has spent years working in an institution, we all know is racist, without much due diligence. However, fail to see at the same time he was taken out covertly. This is the point i wanted to debate and have discussed, not small minded bullshit issue that has no bearing on the truth. Covert warfare is real, and this man is a prime example of this. I have experienced some covert warfare myself, it is not fun nor is it something you would take lightly. Considering we are all behind enemy lines, stuck in harms way, should we not take this seriously.
I hope all keep to this when reply to my thread, otherwise silence is golden, no?
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Sorry but talk about deluded ......So now we are to believe that Dalziel is a brainless weak fool who allowed himself to manipulated into the following actions:
Entering business with some guy.
Then deciding not to pay him what he was owed.
Then getting into an altercation in a public place
Then stabbing himself to make it appear that he was attacked.
Then deciding to arrest and personally charge the same 'friend' with a made up event.
So we are now also supposed to suspend belief and the blatant evidence, to further believe that someone in a 90k job is a weak minded fool who after all his pronouncements on race totally forgets himself does not recognize that someone might want payback....geeez some people
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15-02-10, 01:44 AM
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This is the point i wanted to debate and have discussed, not small minded bullshit issue that has no bearing on the truth. Covert warfare is real, and this man is a prime example of this. I have experienced some covert warfare myself, it is not fun nor is it something you would take lightly. Considering we are all behind enemy lines, stuck in harms way, should we not take this seriously.
I hope all keep to this when reply to my thread, otherwise silence is golden, no?
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Sorry Engineer, but the point you are missing is that (irrespective of the very real DESIRE the authorities had to see this man fall) the fact is, the man, by HIS own stupid actions, negated the need for them to use any real 'sophisticated' covert strategy to put paid to him.
It is akin to me walking into an aparently empty shop and deciding to stuff my bags with as many goodies as possible and then leave...only to find the cops waiting outside with open arms. Then I turn round and say, it was a set up because they deliberately manipulated the senario of the empty shop as part of a COVERT operation to bring me down. Now what would have happend if I HADN'T stuffed all those goods into my bag I wonder?....dah!
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01-03-10, 03:25 PM
God help anyone if they challenge the police on the brutality and unfairness as the the ' power that be' will deal with you harshly, falsely accuse you, plant evidence, put you under suveillance, twist intimate details of your life to make you seem like a monster. Good luck to any Black police officer who can never understand why after 10 applications they can never get a promotion, to become a detective and dares to take the police to a tribunal, woe to anyone who is outspoken about racism, you would think we of all people know the power of the media and how they twist things, we have not heard the whole story here, yall would to happily beleive that with the human rights thing grave unjustices do not happened in Britain get get out of lala land you can be falsely accused and detained without trial, yeah we living in the real world.
Do you truly belive someone who is commander, who knows the powers that be are out to get him is really going to throw it all away for £600 bill.
I just hope Leroy Logan does not upset no one otherwise they will come for him too.
They will not rest untill they close down the NBPA.

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