I think 2 be honest alot of u are misguided bout the issue, 2 be honest the frontrunners in this contest were between Boris and Ken, Boris an open racist!! Ken has done stuff for ethnic minories in London, has has provided money 4 community groups.
To be honest y things havent really changed as because we as a community arent organised.Its true i have worked with the mayors office and seen things.
I am reading these posts and i sum people are sayin the mayor has dun nothing bout gun crime. But ask urself we as a community have 2 tackle this gun crime probelm, instead of asking others 2 sort it out 4 us.

But all these issues aside, i think alot of u are really dodging the issue here.......the question is do u think Boris (the open racist) will do a better job of tackling ur concerns about London then Ken did? This question is 4 everybody?

This is the real problem for us in Britain. We have a choice of racists to vote for as many of you mentioned. Now the real obvious questions should be forthcoming given your above statement.

Are you happy with options of MPs placed before you?
Why?
What can be done to enable better choices?
What can the community do to implement effective choices?
What can YOU do?
What are other communities doing local/foreign?
Can we learn how to become a more powerful force?
As an member of the electorate how far you feel your vote can go to effect change?

Politics/Politicians are corrupt, we better get use to it and stop blaming the leopards for their spots. Better to have an organised machine within the beast to deal with it rather than being at the full mercy of the beast with no political/institutional clout!

This scenario reminds me of the man in his lovely BMW who drove into a huge pothole in the road and smashed the front-end of his car. He came out of the car furious and started kicking his car and shouting and screaming at the pothole! There is a better solution ...


Let us learn from others where we can and take the positives from their efforts and make it our own.

Well said BUT that begs the question, many will wonder if you could be somewhat biased in general towards ken because you worked for the mayor's office? Not referring to you in particular but as you know people in general sometimes can indeed be like sheep even if they think they are not. Those are the ones that tend to inadvertently be the most loyal of sheep. People blinded by party political stance; looking for 'bread' rather than 'seeds' to plant to feed a 'community'. Sometimes visions are short and selfish that they don't see the bigger picture for the next generation they will leave to undergo the ordeal because they failed to build something to leave as their legacy. Blind leading the blind.

As you rightly mentioned gun crime starts with parenting NOT looking to politicians (strangers in essence) to single handedly legislate our communities out of crime and violence.

Since Ken and Lee's name has been mentioned and so intrinsically linked I thought I'd leave these 5 links for you to digest. They follow on in sequence

Well I have asked CONSISTENTLY for people to outline what EXACTLY Ken has achieved over his 8 [eight] years... Maybe you can tell me what he did for BLACK people?

And if YOU think that GUN & KNIFE crime is a BLACK problem perhaps you can tell us what exactly we SHOULD be doing to combat this COUNTRYWIDE issue?

i agree wigth kunjufu Ken has done alot for london. Back in the 80's and 90's THatcher ripped education to bits I was in the midst of it. Ken has always been fo the people especially ethinic minorities.

sorry to contradict you but I am not saying that at all..in fact i am saying the opposite?

BTW welcome to BNV...nice to have a new voice on these boards!!

I was speaking with an old friend yesterday who is a social worker. She saids if it wasnt for Ken Livingstone in his GLA days she may never have become a Social Worker as blacks werent 'getting in' then. What do you think about this as i know you work in this field or similiar?

Ok I watched these clips..and in the words of the last song 'its bullshit', no defence, no explanation all rhetoric and to be honest I could assemble a randon selection of people spontanously and make it look like i was popular...

The fact is the BLACK community does not ONLY live in Brixton, and clearly it is true that a LOT of BLACK people did have an issue with Jasper...you only have to follow this thread to see the truth of THAT accusation.

But to be honest Jasper isn't even being truthful or honest on THREE counts...

1. if he knows that as a BLACK MAN he is vulnerable to the MEDIA, then he needs to explain why his recording was in such a mess... he also need to account for the sexualised banter that eventually did for him?

2. on the other count he is being less than honest in pushing the Jasper for the people skit, the fact is we had NO SAY in his appointment or his policies so its a bit rich for him to claim he is for US, when we did not ask for him?

3. He needs to explain why it is only NOW after 8 years he is talking about initiatives to help the youth, if they were soo important why didn't fight for these ideas from day one of being in office..why raise it now after he get fling out?