http://www.dec.org.uk/

u might help in through there

Hello everyone,

You want to know whats going on there well I will tell you. Sudan is divided into two, there are the minority 30% Arabs and 70% Black Africans. The Black Africans in the southern part, where I come from have been at war with the central government who are Arab muslims. Arab militias have made raids on African villages killing men, abducting children and women as slaves. women are usually made into sex slaves, concubines. This has been going on for mostly 50 years since sudan gained independence in 1955 from Britain. The US, UN, UK and almost ALL western media have ignored the war. The Arab Government was supplied with weapons and helicopters from Egypt the Arab world, China and Russia. Even today China and some Arab countries are stealing oil from black Africans in the South. Only until sept 11, did US intervene to stope this war and bring peace to Sudan. The recent peace process started in Kenyain 2002 andallows us to vote for our own black independent state after 6 years. to maintain our own army, to share 50% of oil wealth about 3 billion dollers a year(all stolen from south). The new black african statemight be called Kush. Slavery in Sudan still happens today, Arabs view black africans as inferior to them. At least the Europeans abolished it and outlawed it, but not Sudan. Osama Bin laden stayed in Sudan for ten years before going to Afghanistan and Sept 11. It is rumoured he had black slaves.

for more on history of sudan - just go to google.com and type sudan, south sudan

and you will be shocked...

By Jeevan Vasagar in Nairobi
and Ewen MacAskill
The Guardian - UK
7-20-4



While African women in Darfur were being raped by the Janjaweed militiamen, Arab women stood nearby and sang for joy, according to an Amnesty International report published yesterday. The songs of the Hakama, or the "Janjaweed women" as the refugees call them, encouraged the atrocities committed by the militiamen.

The women singers stirred up racial hatred against black civilians during attacks on villages in Darfur and celebrated the humiliation of their enemies, the human rights group said.

"[They] appear to be the communicators during the attacks. They are reportedly not actively involved in attacks on people, but participate in acts of looting."

Amnesty International collected several testimonies mentioning the presence of Hakama while women were raped by the Janjaweed. The report said:"Hakama appear to have directly harassed the women [who were] assaulted, and verbally attacked them."

During an attack on the village of Disa in June last year, Arab women accompanied the attackers and sang songs praising the government and scorning the black villagers.

According to an African chief quoted in the report, the singers said: "The blood of the blacks runs like water, we take their goods and we chase them from our area and our cattle will be in their land. The power of [Sudanese president Omer Hassan] al-Bashir belongs to the Arabs and we will kill you until the end, you blacks, we have killed your God."

The chief said that the Arab women also racially insulted women from the village: "You are gorillas, you are black, and you are badly dressed."

The Janjaweed have abducted women for use as sex slaves, in some cases breaking their limbs to prevent them escaping, as well as carrying out rapes in their home villages, the report said.

The militiamen "are happy when they rape. They sing when they rape and they tell that we are just slaves and that they can do with us how they wish", a 37-year-old victim, identified as A, is quoted as saying in the report, which was based onmore than 100 testimonies from women in the refugee camps in neighbouring Chad.

Pollyanna Truscott, Amnesty International's Darfur crisis coordinator, said the rape was part of a systematic dehumanisation of women. "It is done to inflict fear, to force them to leave their communities. It also humiliates the men in their communities."

The UN estimates that up to 30,000 people have been killed in Darfur, and more than a million have been forced to flee their homes. Peace talks between the Sudanese government and two rebel movements broke down on Saturday when the rebel groups walked out, saying the government must first disarm the Janjaweed.

Another human rights organisation, Human Rights Watch, today publishes alleged Sudanese government documents showing that it was much more closely involved with the Janjaweed than it has so far admitted.

The documents, which Human Rights Watch said it had obtained from the civilian administration in Darfur and are dated February and March this year, call for "provisions and ammunition" to be delivered to known Janjaweed militia leaders, camps and "loyalist tribes".

One document orders all security units in the area to tolerate the activities of Musa Hilal, the alleged Janjaweed leader in north Darfur interviewed by the Guardian last week.

Peter Takirambudde, the executive director of Human Rights Watch's Africa division, said: "These documents show that militia activity has not just been condoned, it's been specifically supported by Sudan government officials."

The official government line is that it did not arm or support the Janjaweed, though its presence was useful in helping to combat rebels in Darfur.

That is terrible, absoulty terrible, This is not the Sudan that I knew, they will and shall rot in Hell.

Janjaweed bunch of retards

This is one of the reasons why we should not grant African status to anybody who wants to claim it, unless it is earnt.

The Janjaweed.They are punk ass mofo's/. The Sudanese fighters. May they have all our thoughts and spiritual and collective power. This is right in the heart of where our civiliastion/ world civilisation was founded.

No empty threat. Righteousness will prevail!

My question as futile as it sounds. How can we help our brothers and sisters. Cant dislocate my self from this. Even though Ive never been to Sudan. Its 5000 miles away. But the pain is there. AND RAGE!

This is out of order.

If its to send a money to help arm the African freedom fighters where can it get send. If its material dem want.. where it can be sent?

This is going on like some f**king soap opera.

Sudanese womans perspective

http://poetwomen.50megs.com/custom4.html



More about slavery (It still exists)

http://www.neopolitique.org/Np2000/P...redemption.htm



Ive been searching for something like what you say Mansamusa and will return when I find it. Supporting the fighters is something we should ALL do.

@ Mansamusa/DM

Check the Sudan thread. Didn't coltrane recently post a link concerning assistance?

@ Ashanti

he did yes but that was for food and supplies for the refugees... This is easy enough to find and Ive already commited to that. I think Mansamusa wants to send money specifically to Sudanese black rebels to buy arms and fund their fightback....

Im still looking

@ DM

My bad.niceone.gif

@mansuma

I am going to repeat this for the last time.

Sudan is an African country, it belongs to Africans in Sudan - who are Junabs the real Sudanease people.

The Janjaweed are Arabs not Sudanease

sooo Arabs live in Sudan does not make them African

BUT

Sudanease people are African and they live in the South

Let me summarise since you do not understand what I am trying to say

Sudan is an African country. The real Sudanease people live ib the south. The ruling government are Arabs mixed with african and ARE NOT AFRICANS. Just because they invaded Sudan, it does not give them the right to call Sudan an ARAB country.

Sudan is an African country

Sudan is an African country

Am I making it Clear

@sooofresh

The blood runs hot in youth. You have a most irritating habit of miscontrueing words. Read my post again. No where did I say Sudan is not in Africa.

Allow me Drunk monkey:

Don't rush to respond before READING and thinking. Stop, take a deep breath and relax. AAAHHH

feel better now?


@DM & Ashanti

It was a plea from the heart. I am relatively young too. Can we expect such a link on this forum. By the very nature of its importance. It would have to be more covert on reflection.

Or maybe not...

Respect.

@ Mansamusa

Ill look for it and try talk to some people and post something as soon as I find out

don't know how reliable the cia fact book is...

Ethnic groups:

black 52%, Arab 39%, Beja 6%, foreigners 2%, other 1%

maybe someone else can post better sources...