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I'm amazed that this hasn't got more input..this decision is outragous......


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I agree I was outraged when I heard about it.....look at the message it sends out. This man should've clearly gone to prison confused3




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No doubt the Americans will welcome this particular terrorist with a red carpet.
Only consolation is his former mercinary friends will want to visit him when they get out of jail.
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Why should he come here?The SA courts set him free.He'll head to South America or Asia.Remember whites still control the power in South Africa.


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I'm amazed that this hasn't got more input..this decision is outragous......
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to be honest, it is not that we do not care
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I am just too pissed of to even waste any energy I have got.
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but if their is a meeting, riot, or a pettiton count me on it.
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why can't someone assisinate the fool
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My heck, i didn't maggy tatcher is till alive.


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@BS His family are already in the USA... he is going to be over there soon...


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I didn't say anything because I wasn't surpsied. The son of Maggie (Milk Snatcher) Thatcher was NEVER going to go down.
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I am just so pissed off that i am glad guns are banned in the UK......God knows what i would be tempted to do to any member of his family here in the UK. how can Mbeki let this happen in SAconfused3i say this because someone from the Thatcher camp probably paid that judge a visit......

I think the only solution is to create a gang of professional African assasins to take care of this mercenaries when they go free.

Ahhhhh no i haven't lost my mind, i am just so maaaaddd about this.......how can we hope for the best when our enemies get to be given second chances to come back and attack us time and time again, each time probably more evil and smarter than the last timeconfused3


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Wearing handcuffs and leg-irons in an African prison, the former SAS soldier who tried to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea in a coup d'etat yesterday claimed the main instigator of the plot was the London-based Lebanese millionaire Ely Calil.

In his first interview since his arrest in Zimbabwe in 2004, Simon Mann also claimed that Mark Thatcher was "part of the team". Thatcher pleaded guilty in South Africa in 2005 to helping charter a helicopter which he agreed "might be used for mercenary activity".

Despite fears that he would be mistreated after he was secretly extradited from Zimbabwe to the Equatorial Guinea's capital of Malabo in January, 55-year-old Mann appeared relaxed in a grey uniform as he talked to Channel 4 News in Black Beach prison. For the first time, he admitted he was involved in the attempt to overthrow President Teodoro Obiang Nguema. "I was the manager, not the architect, not the main man," he said.

Calil, who counts Tory and Labour politicians among his friends, has repeatedly denied any involvement, although Mann named him in a prison confession in Zimbabwe which he later retracted. The confession was made under duress, but it was true, he said. In a statement to Channel 4 Calil said: "I have no involvement in or responsibility for the alleged coup."

Mark Thatcher, who was fined £275,000 and given a four-year suspended sentence, said he had nothing to add to what was publicly known about his plea bargain.

Apparently dispelling a myth which has grown up around the botched attack, Mann said the "JH Archer" who is recorded as giving money to his company was not the disgraced peer Jeffrey Archer. The novelist's name and that of former Labour minister Peter Mandelson, have been drawn into the extraordinary cast of characters in the tale as they both were friends of Calil. Asked if they had any involvement, he said: "They've got none at all. God knows where that came from."

Mann, who faces a life sentence on charges of "terrorist conspiracy and attempts to murder the president", said he was stupid to go ahead with the plot. He and 67 South African mercenaries were arrested at Harare airport in March 2004 as they touched down to pick up illegal arms. He was sentenced to seven years, reduced to four. Until now he has claimed that he was heading for the Congo to protect a diamond mine. "It was a ****-up," he said. "I blame myself for not simply saying: 'Cut'. I was bloody stupid. I regret all that terribly. You go tiger shooting and you don't expect the tiger to win. I have been saying how sorry I am to everybody for four years now actually." He did claim, however, that Spain and South Africa were in favour of the plot.

The interview, recorded two weeks ago, was broadcast after Mann's wife, Amanda, and his London lawyer won an injunction in the high court. They claimed he had been forced to talk by the prison authorities. But, according to Channel 4 the legal battle ended in dramatic fashion when Mann's sister, Sarah Grootenhuis, flew back to the UK after seeing him in prison last week. She went to the high court to confirm he wanted the interview to be shown.

Documents leaked since the coup show that Mann was expecting to make $15m and run the country and its oil revenues through a commercial company. In the interview he admits "money and business reasons were a motivation". But he went on: "The primary motivation was to help the people of Equatorial Guinea who were in a lot of trouble."

Perhaps for the benefit of his captors - the attorney general and security minister were sitting in the room - he claimed that Calil and Severo Moto, the Equatorial Guinea politician in exile in Spain who they planned to install as the new leader, both misled him about the country. They said conditions were "diabolically bad". Fears of frightful torture were unfounded. "I have been treated well. My accommodation is good, there's water, there's food and I am under no coercion."

He did complain about his violent and secretive extradition from Zimbabwe which took place at night before his appeal process had been completed. He claims he was kidnapped. His removal was also strongly condemned by the Foreign Office. "We have serious concerns about the legality of this under domestic and international law," a spokeswoman said. It is widely believed the extradition was a political deal. After the plot was foiled, Obiang agreed to ship oil to Zimbabwe to help Robert Mugabe's battered economy. The two men became allies.

Mann's trial, which is likely to be brief because of his cooperation, is expected to start in the next few weeks. The attorney general of Equatorial Guinea, General Jose Olo Obono, has said he will be given a "transparent" trial. To avoid allegations of partiality, the government promised his trial would be observed by a judge chosen by the head of the African Union, currently Tanzania's president, Jakaya Kikwete.
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Ely Calil The Lebanese tycoon, 62, has been accused of financing the failed coup, an allegation he denies. Mann's knickname for him was "Smelly", as he revealed in a letter from his Zimbabwean jail in March 2004: "Our situation is not good... They get no reply from Smelly, and Scratcher asked them to ring back after the Grand Prix was over!"

Mark Thatcher ("Scratcher") Met Mann when they both lived in South Africa. Five months after the aborted coup he was arrested at his Cape Town house. He struck a plea bargain and was fined $450,000 and given a four-year suspended sentence.

Jeffrey Archer Four days before the coup was foiled on the Tarmac at Harare airport, a deposit of $135,000 was made into Mann's Channel Islands company Logo Logistics. It came from a JH Archer. His lawyers issued a carefully worded denial.

Simon Mann The mercenary, from an upper-class English background, ventured into African politics in the 1990s when he teamed up with the South African mercenary outfit, Executive Outcomes, to recapture drilling equipment seized by rebels in Angola. On March 7 2004 he and 69 South African mercenaries were arrested at Harare airport. Mann was sentenced to seven years, reduced to four. Last month he was extradited to Equatorial Guinea.


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Equatorial Guinea seeks arrest warrant for Mark Thatcher

Equatorial Guinea issued a request for an Interpol arrest warrant for Mark Thatcher yesterday, in connection with his alleged involvement in a failed coup attempt in the west African country five years ago.

Thatcher is accused of helping the British mercenary Simon Mann to stage a coup. Interpol headquarters in Lyons said yesterday the request was being processed. Details of Thatcher's involvement have been provided by Mann, who was extradited from Zimbabwe to Equatorial Guinea two months ago.

Mann, who is awaiting trial for allegedly attempting to overthrow the government and threatening to kill the president, has already said in a Channel 4 interview from Black Beach prison in the capital, Malabo, that Lady Thatcher's 54-year-old son was "part of the team".

In 2005 Thatcher was fined £265,000 and given a four-year suspended sentence in South Africa, where he and Mann lived, after a plea bargain in which he admitted helping to finance the purchase of a helicopter for the plotters even though he suspected it might be used for mercenary activity.

The announcement of the warrant request was made on Thursday by José Olo Obono, Equatorial Guinea's attorney general. "We are not going to let this drop," he said. "We will pursue him wherever he goes." Obono was speaking to British journalists who had flown to Malabo on advice from official sources that Mann would give a press conference this week before his trial. Neither event has taken place and the trial is not expected for several weeks. In return for his cooperation Mann and his family are hoping for a reduced sentence.

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I have to come in here..to again highlight the hypocracy of this UK government on the issue of Terror and the war therein.... I wonder if I financed, anmd gave support to any terrorist group to attempt a military coup in the UK... would I still be a free man, would i not be vilified as a Terrorist in the media..? Would I still have my asserts or would i be stripped of everything i own?

It is therefore very strange that the media instead of treating Mark Thatcher as the Terrorist that he is..appears to be insinuating that he is the VICTIM and the African government are the Terrorists?

Look we have a man in Jail right now, who was stupid enough to voice thoughts against the UK, he is serving 8 years for that blunder... We have a woman just convicted sent to jail for 15 years for NOT telling the authorities that her husband was planning a bombing... Yet Mark Thatcher who plead guilty, convicted and admitted to Financing a coup..whether he knew it or not... Is walking scott free.. and the people is this country are strangely silent on the matter why?


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I have to come in here..to again highlight the hypocracy of this UK government on the issue of Terror and the war therein.... I wonder if I financed, anmd gave support to any terrorist group to attempt a military coup in the UK... would I still be a free man, would i not be vilified as a Terrorist in the media..? Would I still have my asserts or would i be stripped of everything i own?

It is therefore very strange that the media instead of treating Mark Thatcher as the Terrorist that he is..appears to be insinuating that he is the VICTIM and the African government are the Terrorists?

Look we have a man in Jail right now, who was stupid enough to voice thoughts against the UK, he is serving 8 years for that blunder... We have a woman just convicted sent to jail for 15 years for NOT telling the authorities that her husband was planning a bombing... Yet Mark Thatcher who plead guilty, convicted and admitted to Financing a coup..whether he knew it or not... Is walking scott free.. and the people is this country are strangely silent on the matter why?


Not to mention "business man" Ely Calil:


"It was Smelly, aka Ely Calil, who offered his west London flat to Mandelson when the then Northern Ireland secretary was embroiled in the scandal over an undisclosed loan from fellow minister Geoffrey Robinson. It forced the sale of his Notting Hill home, so he gratefully moved into Calil’s £500,000 one-bedroom flat in Holland Park.

Calil, a 58-year-old Lebanese businessman with an estimated £100m fortune and a £12m Palladian mansion off the Kings Road in Chelsea, could afford to be generous.

He was also known to nurture hopes of joining the British Establishment as a knight or lord — now an unlikely prospect as he is being sued by the Equatorial Guinea government in London and is sought by the South African police. "

Profile: Ely Calil: Smelly, the missing essence in a coup plot -Times Online

Behind the Simon Mann story: the secretive tycoon Ely Calil - Times Online


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