http://www.blackchat.co.uk/theblackf...rum9/5559.html

i'm gonna say something that might sound a bit contraversial....but y was she out there in the first place? i know that she was do'naid work / helpn the poor etc...but there are so many worthy causes in the uk that she could have been fightn 4 where there would have been no chance at all of her being kidnapped and killed!in my job i have had plenty of opportunities to work in countries like dubi (good employment packages...gettn paid a hell of a lot more money than i do over here!)...but i have always had the thought in the back of my mind that id be a prime target for terrorists in those kinds countries, so i've never persued it!

Maybe her execution was a protest for Fulujah!?!

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Baghdad Burning
... I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can mend...

Wednesday, November 10, 2004
"There aren't going to be large numbers of civilians killed and certainly not by U.S. forces,"

No- there are only an 'estimated' 100,000 civilians in Falloojeh (and these are American estimations). So far, boys and men between the ages of 16 and 60 aren't being counted as 'civilians' in Falloojeh. They are being rounded up and taken away. And, *of course* the US forces aren't going to be doing the killing: The bombs being dropped on Falloojeh don't contain explosives, depleted uranium or anything harmful- they contain laughing gas- that would, of course, explain Rumsfeld's idiotic optimism about not killing civilians in Falloojeh. Also, being a 'civilian' is a relative thing in a country occupied by Americans. You're only a civilian if you're on their side. If you translate for them, or serve them food in the Green Zone, or wipe their floors- you're an innocent civilian. Everyone else is an insurgent, unless they can get a job as a 'civilian'.

So this is how Bush kicks off his second term. More bloodshed.

"Innocent civilians in that city have all the guidance they need as to how they can avoid getting into trouble,"

How do they do that Rumsfeld? While tons of explosives are being dropped upon your neighborhood, how do you do that? Do you stay inside the house and try to avoid the thousands of shards of glass that shoot out at you from shattering windows? Or do you hide under a table and hope that it's sturdy enough to keep the ceiling from crushing you? Or do you flee your house and pray to God you don't come face to face with an Apache or tank or that you aren't in the line of fire of a sniper? How do you avoid the cluster bombs and all the other horror being dealt out to the people of Falloojeh?

There are a couple of things I agree with. The first is the following:

"Over time you'll find that the process of tipping will take place, that more and more of the Iraqis will be angry about the fact that their innocent people are being killed..."

He's right. It is going to have a decisive affect on Iraqi opinion- but just not the way he thinks. There was a time when pro-occupation Iraqis were able to say, "Let's give them a chance..." That time is over. Whenever someone says that lately, at best, they get a lot of nasty looks... often it's worse. A fight breaks out and a lot of yelling ensues... how can one condone occupation? How can one condone genocide? What about the mass graves of Falloojeh? Leaving Islam aside, how does one agree to allow the murder of fellow-Iraqis by the strongest military in the world?

The second thing Rumsfeld said made me think he was reading my mind:

"Rule of Iraq assassins must end..." I couldn't agree more: Get out Americans.

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@ Sooofresh


I am talking about lamenting this one woman. I find it boring and dull. If you wanna talk war then do so and open a thread about war, oh wait a minute there are many and you already have.

What is the point about an extra thread all for one woman in the middle of a war? If that makes sense to you then Im not suprised. As for you Ginger, no offense but its still not important.

when a man is losing a battle, he change the lawshe had hitherto sworn on to achieve his goals

one word desperation

@ BS

Yank soldiers killing unarmed soldiers is nothing new, some divisions just don’t like dealing with POW and ignore all the rules set by the Geneva convention. A paradox of American warfare is that you put on a heavy show of force scaring your enemy into submission, which doesn't always work as proved in Falluja.

The problem in Falluja is that the Marines and my old division 82nd Airborne are far too aggressive for this type of warfare. It's like sending a swat team to deal with a kid’s party.

Airborne immediately goes on the defensive when dealing with a determined resistance, it's also a known fact Airborne don't like taking any prisoners. Military chiefs need to learn how to transform a society while under hostile fire and to mount a consistent public relations and psychological warfare strategy.