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Bob Norburn was able to pay £8,000 for cryotherapy, which has a 98% success rate, and has received an all clear. The NHS refused to pay because it wasn’t NICE approved (i.e., it costs a lot). Those with access to money can buy life-saving treatment — the poor are left to die. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1371453,00.html


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Bob Norburn was able to pay £8,000 for cryotherapy, which has a 98% success rate, and has received an all clear. The NHS refused to pay because it wasn’t NICE approved (i.e., it costs a lot). Those with access to money can buy life-saving treatment — the poor are left to die. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1371453,00.html
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Only one thing wrong with the perception that may be read into the above...
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I'm that guy, yea me, life long socialist, worked from age15 to my present age of 57,
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42 years of {maybe not hard labour} but 42 years of setting an alarm clock to pay my way through this world...
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Then at age 56 I get diagnosed with Prostate Cancer, and the NHS tells me that I can either have "any prize off the bottom shelf" for that read the {cheap} slice and dice surgery that leaves men impotent and incontinent, or if I want better treatement {that won't leave me pissing down my leg for the rest of my natural} then I have to pay for it myself... tell me what you'd do.
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I'm just a regular working class bloke {if you want to check my "integrity" do a Google for "Norburn Fleet"}. I had to spend most ofwhat I'd saved for a half decent pension, now that's gone, but I {for at least me wife's sake} am still here.
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Surely an old socialist is worth 8 grand, even if it's out of his own pocket !
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This AINT a case of the "rich" getting something that the workers can't have, this worker was {maybe} lucky enough to pay to save his own life, but it came out of my own pocket.
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Yet having said that, the rich can easily avail themselves to better treatments, why do you guys think I'm kicking up so much of a fuss about it, check out...
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The only option after the fact was to embarrass the B*stards by taking my story to the media, that and to appeal the decision of Bolton PCT {for that think Area Health Authority}, to try to get my saving back, wish me luck lads, I'll need it.
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If any of you think it might be my turn to get some support, I'd appreciate an e-mail being sent in to the Bolton Evening News.
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I agree with your sentiment Coltrane, but this time you were on the wrong horse.
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Canada Bob.
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'People who have worked hard and paid tax all their lives deserve to have the right treatment and they deserve to have it for free on the NHS," he said.
Bob Norburn

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Thanks for your understanding and support, much appreciated.

Did you do the google search for "Norburn Fleet" that's a hell of a saga !

Canada Bob.


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No would not go near a Google search for anything...I just read your links. Besides I'm a Mancs so had already heard your story.

I have to ask though, how did you end up here on BN?


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I read somewhere that England and America had the worst health-care system in the Developed West as far as "costs and coverage" are concerned.

Here in America, people work all their lives to own property and buy houses, and if they get sick and have to go into a nursing home...NO INSURANCE covers it!

They either have to pay over $4,000 a month out of their pockets, or have all their property, houses, cars, ect... confiscated or liened by the governments...screw their children's rights.

I haven't been sick by God's grace, but I know the system all too well from personal experiences.


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Hi,

Right, so you saw the article in the MEN, OK...

Might be more to come yet, I have to attend an appeal Monday at 2pm in Bolton, but I'm told {if I need telling} that they will simply go through the motions and still refuse to pay for me or ANYONE {make that any MEN} in Bolton to have this latest treatment. The PCT {think Area Heath Authority} prefers to save money and risk lives, we are expendable, there's always another grows in out place, and they like to show the NHS how frugal they are, so that they can give themselves a big fat raise at the end of the year.

I know what a shower of shite they are, and thinking along those lines I've organised a muck spreader to be there in front of their offices in Silverwell Street in Bolton at 1pm on Monday, and I intend to show the world what a shower of shite really looks like !

As for BN, well my buddy Henry lurks around here, tells me a bit of what goes on, and saw the original post about me {being some rich bloke} that's what brought me in here, it was Henry's fault, grin...

Hope no one gets on the wrong end of this, but Henry has been a life long buddy to me, I don't see a black man when I see Henry, I see me mate... best mate I've ever had !

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Here's a thought about Health Care, you're right that we don't spend enough {where it's needed}, too much on folks who aren't at the sharp end, and not enough on Nurses, Dr's {maybe}cleaners and other support staff.

But... this is one for many of you to think about, black men have a much higher incidence of prostate cancer, it kills them in droves, they are more prone to it tha anyone else, by a long way.

If you've turned 45 then get your Dr to do the PSA test {a simple blood test} so that if you have a problem you can catch it in time, let it sneak up on you for a few years and it will bury you.

I'd appreciate it if you all would cc everyone on your mailing lists with the above advisory, no one should lose their life due to ignorance.

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But... this is one for many of you to think about, black men have a much higher incidence of prostate cancer, it kills them in droves, they are more prone to it tha anyone else, by a long way.

If you've turned 45 then get your Dr to do the PSA test {a simple blood test} so that if you have a problem you can catch it in time, let it sneak up on you for a few years and it will bury you.

I'd appreciate it if you all would cc everyone on your mailing lists with the above advisory, no one should lose their life due to ignorance.

Bob.
............Enjoyed your comments Bob....Good Luck with your campaign M8......I'm White and over that age and consider myself in perfect health but you've planted a thought in my head about the 45+ Test.....I love life so much I think I'd be scared to go....lol.........By The Way...Why "Canada" Bob.?......Because U had to go there M8?...U sound like a "No-Nonsense" Northener to me.......Regards....CB..
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"As for BN, well my buddy Henry lurks around here, tells me a bit of what goes on, and saw the original post about me" ....Bob....Any chance of Henry lurking about today to let U know about my question M8
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I read somewhere that England and America had the worst health-care system in the Developed West as far as "costs and coverage" are concerned.

Here in America, people work all their lives to own property and buy houses, and if they get sick and have to go into a nursing home...NO INSURANCE covers it!

They either have to pay over $4,000 a month out of their pockets, or have all their property, houses, cars, ect... confiscated or liened by the governments...screw their children's rights.

I haven't been sick by God's grace, but I know the system all too well from personal experiences.
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This is not true.Most nursing homes take Social Security and SSI as a form of payment.


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