The BN Village  
Home Register FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to the African and Caribbean Social network.

You are currently are in guest mode which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access other features. By joining this free African Caribbean Social utility you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload images, add videos, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join the African and Caribbean community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Go Back   The BN Village > Welcome to The Black Forum - The Black net Village > News and Politics Village
Reload this Page 1 in 5 young black city men in jail in US city

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
imported post
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Burning Spear's Avatar
Burning Spear is Offline
Villager Senior
Burning Spear
 
Posts: 3,338
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington DC, , USA
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 03:51 PM



Study: 1 in 5 young black city men in jail

[align=right]



Sun Staff
Originally published March 15, 2005


More than half of Baltimore's African-American men in their 20s are either incarcerated or under criminal justice system supervision, according to a study being released today by a Washington-based research organization.

The Justice Policy Institute, which favors alternatives to prison, argues in its report that much of the money spent on incarceration would be better spent on drug treatment and community redevelopment. The report combines Maryland incarceration statistics with conclusions from selected sociological studies to raise questions about the efficacy of imprisonment in lowering crime.

"The basic idea is there are too many people locked up," said Eric Lotke, co-author of the report and research director for the Justice Policy Institute. "We basically said, 'We've got to tell people about this. We've got to connect these dots.'"

While many in law enforcement expressed dismay yesterday with the study's statistical findings, some argued that detention remains a vital crime-fighting component.

According to the institute's report, there are about 25,000 black men in Baltimore between the ages of 20 and 30, and 52 percent of them are incarcerated or on parole or probation. Statewide, nearly 10 percent of black men in their 20s are incarcerated in either jail or prison. In the city, the percentage is nearly 20 percent, the study found.

State corrections officials confirmed yesterday the accuracy of the incarceration figures used to derive most of those statistics.

"You've got one in five young black men living in a cage," Lotke said. "I saw that 'one in five' figure for Baltimore, and I wanted to cry."

Lotke faulted police, lawmakers, prosecutors, state and city government, and judges, contending that they are running on "autopilot" and continue to lock up more offenders, even while crime is declining.

Some officials cautioned against using the study's figures to draw conclusions about the dispensation of justice.

"You need to look a little deeper before you make one big blanket statement," said Raquel Guillory, a spokeswoman for Mayor Martin O'Malley.

She said that since being elected in 1999, the mayor has more than doubled the slots available in city-sponsored drug treatment - from 11,000 to 25,000 - and has overseen the creation of early-disposition court, which is intended to quickly resolve lesser crimes.

Shareese DeLeaver, a spokeswoman for Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr., said the governor has been working to refocus the corrections system on education, treatment and training.

"Any statistic of this nature bothers the administration," DeLeaver said, "as it's a sign we can do better on several levels - state government, federal government and local government."

State's Attorney Patricia C. Jessamy was "alarmed" by the statistic, a spokeswoman for the prosecutor's office said. The city state's attorney's office attempts to target violent offenders for prosecution while nonviolent drug offenders are diverted into treatment, spokeswoman Margaret T. Burns said.

City police said they disagree with the assertion made by the Justice Policy Institute that "crime continues to rise in Baltimore neighborhoods most impacted by the justice system." Police spokesman Matt Jablow said that over the past five years, crime significantly decreased in virtually all city neighborhoods, especially those hardest hit by violence.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...&cset=true[/align]


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#2 (permalink))
Old
CashMoney is Offline
Villager Senior
CashMoney
 
Posts: 4,665
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: London, , United Kingdom
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 04:25 PM

Wats your view @ burning

Being a washington native, is it lawless round your ends or is this just hullabolloo,

I heard washington aint too safe, but what area is?


You ever heard of the Golden Rule. He who has the gold makes the rules!

He who asks is a fool for five minutes. He who never asks remains a fool for ever.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#3 (permalink))
Old
impactplayer is Offline
Banned
impactplayer is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,150
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maryland (DC), USA
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 04:42 PM

hmmmm...very informative although I find it hard to believe 1/2 of blk men in thier 20's is/was in jail. Although the things I hear from balitimore connects well with this article.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#4 (permalink))
Old
Burning Spear's Avatar
Burning Spear is Offline
Villager Senior
Burning Spear
 
Posts: 3,338
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington DC, , USA
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 05:26 PM

CashMoney wrote:
Quote:
Wats your view @ burning

Being a washington native, is it lawless round your ends or is this just hullabolloo,

I heard washington aint too safe, but what area is?
Quote:
CM,
Quote:
You know that statistics can be skewed to suit the presenter of the facts.That being said we are at a crisis point in ourcommunity here.We all know the causes and the effects but the message is just not sinking in.Added that we have a prison coroporation complex here does not help.
Quote:
Adding to the frustration is the AIDS problem.We all know what goes on in jail.When these men/boys are released they are timebombs heading back to the community.
blkheadbang


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#5 (permalink))
Old
101stAirborne is Offline
Villager Senior
101stAirborne
 
Posts: 1,242
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 05:52 PM

The operative phrase is "...or under criminal justice system suprrvision"

Prison Statistics
Summary findings | BJS publications | Selected statistics |
Also by BJS staff | Related sites


[line]

Summary findings
On December 31, 2003,


-- 2,085,620 prisoners were held in Federal or State prisons or in local jails --
There are over 35 million Blacks in the US, do the math.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

imported post
(#6 (permalink))
Old
CashMoney is Offline
Villager Senior
CashMoney
 
Posts: 4,665
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: London, , United Kingdom
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 05:56 PM

That AIDS issue concerns me

I read somewher that Aids was the biggest killer of black woman between the ages of 27- 35 and that ur woman make up 65% of aids cases in US for women. What worries me most is thatI read this on blackamericaweb.com , so I guess its somewhat authentic( I'll find the link and post it)

Also, this idea that AIDS is a white homo disease really puzzles me. Surely in this day and age we can't be that ignorant. But this mentailty still exists, in Africa and the West.

Back to the main issues

What can be realistically done in your view@ burning.




You ever heard of the Golden Rule. He who has the gold makes the rules!

He who asks is a fool for five minutes. He who never asks remains a fool for ever.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#7 (permalink))
Old
dimoke is Offline
Villager Senior
dimoke
 
Posts: 2,374
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 06:29 PM

Interesting BS.....its just so worrying, but i guess the most important qeustion here is.....what are the community representatives doing to educate people on the whole?? And why is the AIDS epidemic so prevalent with the African American females?? I am confused here, how is it so wide spread with the women onlyconfused3


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#8 (permalink))
Old
Burning Spear's Avatar
Burning Spear is Offline
Villager Senior
Burning Spear
 
Posts: 3,338
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington DC, , USA
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 06:29 PM

CM,

I think we as Black/African men need to be a stabilizing force in our children's live's.Too manydo not have fathers in their lives,and that fact has an effect on behaviour.Then we need to really drew a line on this hip hop life style that has added to the "I don't give a f***" mentality that many Black males have.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#9 (permalink))
Old
Bredder Tukoma is Offline
Villager Senior
Bredder Tukoma
 
Posts: 3,830
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: , , United Kingdom
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 07:50 PM

Is it really just lack of fathers for sons.Is not the"i dont give a f*** mentallity" independent of hip hop.

The greatest country in the world and a city can have onefifth of black men in prison.

Thats why that place has never appealed to me. When African Americans are under pressure.. they are Under Pressure.



Plus the facts that the prisons are a business out there. A heck of alot of people eat well out of Black males going to jail.

Seems like some form of formula is needed to stop some of these poor areas being like literal warzones.

That was a disturbing article.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#10 (permalink))
Old
101stAirborne is Offline
Villager Senior
101stAirborne
 
Posts: 1,242
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 08:02 PM

mansamusa wrote:
Quote:
Is it really just lack of fathers for sons.Is not the"i dont give a f*** mentallity" independent of hip hop.

The greatest country in the world and a city can have onefifth of black men in prison.

The statisticas you quote it is not true, re-read the original post, and read my post and the links. If you can't or won't do the simple maths:
Quote:
There are just over 2M people of all races and both sexes in Federal, State and Local jaol. If there are over 16M Black Males in the US, and if 1/5 were in prison, then that sum would exceed by over 1M all of the jaol and prison population.
Quote:
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#11 (permalink))
Old
Burning Spear's Avatar
Burning Spear is Offline
Villager Senior
Burning Spear
 
Posts: 3,338
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Washington DC, , USA
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 08:03 PM

dimoke wrote:
Quote:
Interesting BS.....its just so worrying, but i guess the most important qeustion here is.....what are the community representatives doing to educate people on the whole?? And why is the AIDS epidemic so prevalent with the African American females?? I am confused here, how is it so wide spread with the women onlyconfused3


dimoke,
Quote:
I think the answer is multi-facted.You have a basic mix of ingorance,hyper-sexuality,un-safe sex and lack of proper sexual education and .....................rise in H.I.V rates.
Quote:
But to make a point.too many woman are having sex with brother (who are whoring around) without protection.


Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
imported post
(#12 (permalink))
Old
101stAirborne is Offline
Villager Senior
101stAirborne
 
Posts: 1,242
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: , ,
Post imported post - 15-03-05, 08:10 PM

dimoke wrote:
Quote:
Interesting BS.....its just so worrying, but i guess the most important qeustion here is.....what are the community representatives doing to educate people on the whole?? And why is the AIDS epidemic so prevalent with the African American females?? I am confused here, how is it so wide spread with the women onlyconfused3
Quote:
According to Dr May Post:
Quote:
WOMEN ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO HIV INFECTION
As with other sexually transmitted infections (STIs), women are at greater risk of acquiring the infection from an infected male partner than are men of acquiring the infection from an infected female partner. Empirical evidence shows the rate of transmission from male to female to be 2-5 times higher than from female to male.
The presence of ulcerative STIs such as chancroid, syphilis, and herpes usually associated with genital ulcers significantly increase susceptibility to HIV as well as infectiousness. In addition, non-ulcerative STIs such as gonorrhea, chlamydia and trichomoniasis may also increase susceptibility to HIV infection. Non-ulcerative STIs are far more common than ulcerative STIs and, in women, are often asymptomatic and thus unrecognized. In addition, because of the stigma attached to STIs, women are less likely to seek medical care, enhancing their vulnerability to an infection transmitted by an HIV- infected male. Once infected, women are predisposed to shorter incubation periods and shorter survival times. Some data suggest that among HIV-infected women, higher order pregnancies (fourth, fifth pregnancies and above) may trigger a full-blown attack of AIDS. If this association is confirmed, HIV- positive women with higher order pregnancies could experience shorter survival times than infected males.

For futher information, contact:
Dr. May Post
Telephone: (202) 884-8815
E-Mail: MPost@aed.org
SARA Project




Digg this Post!