The fourth bomber of Jamaican descent? - Page 7

MarcusGarveyLives · (#151 (**permalink**))

According to this (please click here), he left Jamaica when he was five months old!

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Afroboo · (#152 (**permalink**))

YeaIheard aboutthat

Ibet if he happened to be an athlete at the olympics and won London a handful of gold medals
There would be no doubt that hewas "British"then..

Saint · (#153 (**permalink**))

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Come Man, this cannot be true, what about the 4th bomber, he knew what had happenedto the other 3, he had plenty of time. They were aware of whatthey were about to do, the bombs were not detonated by accident.They did it on purposed, they had a mission to kill and they executed it

I don't think 4th bomber could have known what happened to the other three unless they were suicide bombers. But if your're going to kill yourself why buy return rail tickets? It doesn't make sense.

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But it doesn't make any difference whether they bought a return or single ticket, aren't they gonna leave their money behind when they die, it even make more sense to spend more when you getting close to your final hours.

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Also the bus bomber was seen panicking and fiddling about with the rucksack on the top deck of the bus.Again why panic if you're going to kill yourself?

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He can only died once, he hasn'tbeen through that experience before.Yes it is possible he panicked, but just because he was gonna kill himself doesn't mean he wouldn't havepanic. I mean if someone was to Jump from a height building to commit sucide, the person may panic and have a second thought about it before jumping, that doesn't mean he didn't know what he was going to do.

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Why carry ID around with you knowing that if any ID is found in the debris the authorities will know who you are and informants quicktime [this is what happened]. Suicide bombers dont carry ID before they kill themselves inorder to avoid this problem.

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Theyare proud to commit these evil acts, so tell mehow it is gonna affect themwhen their identities are found.letting people know who they are may even give them praise from those who would called them martyrs. If sucide bombers don't want their identities to be known, why do some go and make home videos before attacking their target? They have nothing to lose by carrying Ids,if they were stop randomly, any police stoping you and speaking to you would ask for your id,when they see your id, they just let you go, but if youdon't have id on you, they may delay you .usually menhave their IDs in their wallets, now tell me if they hadleft theirIDs, Bank cards at home and theytraveled all the way to London, wouldn't people at home think what is he doing?

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It is very obvious that they intended to die,please look at the facts.

Abdul-Haq Ashanti · (#154 (**permalink**))

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlo...529894,00.html

Abdul-Haq Ashanti · (#155 (**permalink**))

This is a very important topic, however it is vital to avoid simplistic lines of reasoning. At Brixton Mosque and Islamic Cultural Centre, we have noted how impressionable and gullible youth are being used by others to promote extreme actions of violence and terrorism and they prey on youth.

Theseattempts to recruit I would say target youth in general regardless of their ethnic backgrounds, but what is important is that they do use people as expendables, and this is what we have warned against in Brixton for years.

In terms of understanding the mindset that triggers these actions, its premise is based on a twisted and heretical interpretation of the Islamic texts. In this case, the black youth who was involved was not actually basing it upon an "Arab" teacher such as Aboo Hamza, Aboo Qatadah, Omar Bakree or any other foolish extremist Arab preacher, more likely upon the self-professed Jamaican "Shaykh", the extremist Abdullah Faysal who is currently in Jail for his incitements of violence against non Muslims. Here then, due to those who follow Faysal and his extremist ideas, theyconsider non Muslims as legitimate targets.

Furthermore, Muslims are not an ethnic group as such, but a faith group and this crosses all ethnic barriers. Many Muslims see attacks on Muslims as an attack on Islaam therefore, and can be deluded into performing the horrific and despicable terrorist events that we have witnessed of late.

What also needs to be noted is that there are also cases when Muslims are being targeted for extermination and anhiliation with no ethnicidentification considered at all. Thiswas the case in Bosnia for example with the Serbs, Croats and Muslims, who were all of Slav origin,and in other parts of the world. In such cases, this cannot merely be passed off as an 'Arab mans' warrather something that was specifially targeting Islaam and Muslims, catgories which many Arabs do not fall into, due to them being Christians, Jews, Atheists or something else.

Moreover, when we look at the high number of Muslims of African origin in the UK, in London, Birmingham, Sheffield, Luton, Leicester etc. there have only beentwo that have been involved in terrorist activities, so it would be very innaccurate to suggest that there is some kind of trend amongst Muslims of African origin and descent.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlo...529894,00.html

AbdulHaq

huzzah1 · (#156 (**permalink**))

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Theyare proud to commit these evil acts, so tell mehow it is gonna affect themwhen their identities are found.letting people know who they are may even give them praise from those who would called them martyrs. If sucide bombers don't want their identities to be known, why do some go and make home videos before attacking their target? They have nothing to lose by carrying Ids,if they were stop randomly, any police stoping you and speaking to you would ask for your id,when they see your id, they just let you go, but if youdon't have id on you, they may delay you .usually menhave their IDs in their wallets, now tell me if they hadleft theirIDs, Bank cards at home and theytraveled all the way to London, wouldn't people at home think what is he doing?

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It is very obvious that they intended to die,please look at the facts.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_obje...name_page.html

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[align=left]Police and MI5 are probing if the four men were told by their al-Qaeda controller they had time to escape after setting off timers. Instead, the devices exploded immediately.[/align]

[align=left]A security source said: "If the bombers lived and were caught they'd probably have cracked. Would their masters have allowed that to happen? We think not
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[align=left]We think it's possible they were told that when they pressed buttons to set off timers they'd have a short time to abandon the bombs and get away before the blast. Instead, the bombs exploded immediately[/align]

[align=left]Why would suicide bombers have timers? Why not a simple trigger switch - press the button and bang? Answer to allow them time to escape before the bomb goes off. [/align]

[align=left]Their Mastermind had other ideas. Why was the guy on the bus panicking? Because he ran out of time.[/align]

tab · (#157 (**permalink**))

offtopic.gifThis Guy has relatives in Massachusetts.An older male relative did an interview with NBC News.

Sblizzy · (#158 (**permalink**))

One question that I have is, does anyone know if they knew each other? Were they aquaintences at all?

babygirl44 · (#159 (**permalink**))

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@Babygirl have to say find your statement so transparent and inconsistent when you first said my man was not a Jamaican but a Pakistani born in JA REALLY...? Oh so now Jamaicans are defined by race are they?. But when I was saying that I do not recognise Asians Chinese or Syrians or Sean Paul as Jamaicans only AFricans what did you say to me Mansa etc.? Oh now you have changed your tune...Some people lord just make you shake your head in pity and don't deny it because I will draw the Jamiacan thread on you by Twang...

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Geta life you prick. I obviously at that point in the day didn't know all the facts and then my later posts then reflected what I had later found out so don't try and start a war wth me by bringing in other threads. You were dying to start an argument with someone but since your credbility has diminished some what over the last few weeks I'd keep your ranting mouth shut. Who else other than you would go off topic to start an argument with another poster? Yourprobaby still vexed because when you PM'd me begging me to continue to speak to you on the 'Jamaicans' I ignored your sorry arse.You make out your an authority on everything when really you are a sad lonely old man who can only get his kicks fom arguing on the internet. Stop living this fantasy life of yours about you are a black leader. Plus threaten me and bring in every post of mine I have ever written as you obviously have time but I would prefer it if you didn't bring my name into your posts ever again because I neitherlike or respect you.

Saint · (#160 (**permalink**))

Huzzah1 wrote:
[align=left]Why would suicide bombers have timers? Why not a simple trigger switch - press the button and bang? Answer to allow them time to escape before the bomb goes off. [/align]

[align=left]Their Mastermind had other ideas. Why was the guy on the bus panicking? Because he ran out of time.[/align]

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[align=left]Well they may have timers because they wanted to detonate the bombs at the same time. Where did you read about the bus bomber panicking? [/align]

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[align=left]They didn't plan a way to escape, they were aware that they wouldhave beencaught, any bomber would have left their bombs and not be in the area well before the bomb exploded. [/align]

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[align=left]They were sucide bombers, simple.[/align]

huzzah1 · (#161 (**permalink**))

Saint wrote:

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Huzzah1 wrote:

[align=left]Why would suicide bombers have timers? Why not a simple trigger switch - press the button and bang? Answer to allow them time to escape before the bomb goes off. [/align]

[align=left]Their Mastermind had other ideas. Why was the guy on the bus panicking? Because he ran out of time.[/align]
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[align=left]They were sucide bombers, simple.[/align]
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Mr Jones, 61, an IT consultant, has told BBC News he saw a man acting suspiciously on the bus.
He said the man was fiddling with something in his bag and seemed in an agitated state.
Mr Jones, who was forced to take the bus from Euston after Tube services were suspended, said: "He was standing next to me with a bag at his feet and he kept dipping into this bag and fiddling about with something.
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