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30-08-05, 01:26 AM
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I don't know if I should be more angry at the 14 year old or the 33 year old, what's a 33 year old doing jacking people for mobile phones, and rolling with 14 year olds any how?
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Newsstyle: exactly my thoughts....I just can't get my head around the ages of the possible people involved..it just beggars belief..
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30-08-05, 01:30 AM
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I don't know if I should be more angry at the 14 year old or the 33 year old, what's a 33 year old doing jacking people for mobile phones, and rolling with 14 year olds any how?
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Newsstyle: exactly my thoughts....I just can't get my head around the ages of the possible people involved..it just beggars belief..
Well when I heard more and more about the story I thought to myself drug addicts making a quick swift decision to rob in order to get money for more drug...who knows I mean it wasn't a thought out crime was it it was just barbaric nonsense mindless killingconfused3
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30-08-05, 01:33 AM
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I seen that quite a bit, my friends older brother would try hang with us when we were younger, deluding himself he was schooling us you could see he was just retarded and couldn't get with his own peoples. Used to try follow us to the dance and all sorts... proper strange one.
Nas sorta summed it up on one song "second childhood"
Yo, dude is 31, livin in his moms crib
Ex-convict, was paroled there after his long bid
Cornrows in his hair, still slingin, got a crew
They break his moms furniture, watchin comicview
Got babies by different ladies high smokin l’s
In the same spot he stood since, eighty-five well
When his stash slow, he be crazy
Say he by his moms, hit her on her payday
Junior high school dropout, teachers never cared
They was paid just to show up and leave, no one succeeds
So he moves with his peers, different blocks, different years
Sittin on, different benches like it’s musical chairs
All his peoples moved on in life, he’s on the corners at night
With young dudes it’s them he wanna be like
It’s sad but it’s fun to him right? he never grew up
31 and can’t give his youth, he’s in his second childhood
As for the 14 year old, where were his parents and why didnt they vet his friends? What is your son doing with big men on road?
Glad they caught these fools so quickly though. I wanna see big harsh sentances now, not no dibby dibby nonsense...
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30-08-05, 02:07 AM
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There was a topic about how to raise your children and I was reading it and didn't have enough time but I wanted to add how important it is for parents to know who their childrens friends are.
In my family my mother and father had to know who our friend was and not only that if they heard us mention a name frequently they wanted to see these people for themselves and they even questioned who their parents were.
I used to move with about 8 people and each one of us new each others parents and one in particular my mother did not like the mother she knew her from way back when they first came into this country and my mother sat me down and told me why she refuses to let me move with this child. You know when my mum sat me down I actually had no problems with her request because this particular guy was too carefree loose and wild and I didn't know his mothers history but clearly the lack of discipline carried over to the child.
So you are quite right these 14 and 16 year old in particular where were the parents to question their movements. My parents and others alike didn't ramp with their children if I was by a friends house with a group of friend you can bet your money that one of the parents from the group will call to check up on us.
We live in a society now where people especially children are quick to say if you trust me you wouldn't need to check up on me well dash that theory I say to the child if you are behaving yourself then you have no need to fear my check ups.
But if some parents don't want to see their children locked up or killed then they better start doing more in terms of parenting.
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30-08-05, 07:57 AM
Boys charged with woman's murder Zainab Kalokoh was originally from Sierra LeoneTwo teenage boys have been charged with the murder of a woman shot dead holding a baby at a family christening party.A 14-year-old of Peckham, south-east London, and a 16-year-old of nearby New Cross, are accused of the killing in front of about 100 guests in Peckham.
The pair are also charged with robbery of guests and will appear at Camberwell Green Magistrates' Court on Tuesday.
Zainab Kalokoh, 33, of Stratford, east London, died in hospital. The child, who was not related to her, was unhurt.
A post-mortem examination found the victim, who was originally from Sierra Leone, died from a single gunshot wound to the head.
Two other men arrested on Sunday, aged 19 and 33, have been bailed to return before police in about a month.
The shooting happened at a community hall on the Wood Dene Estate at about 2000 BST on Saturday.
Detective Superintendent Hanstock said it was a shocking incident, adding: "Our thoughts are with the family and friends of the victim."
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30-08-05, 08:21 AM
Kunjufu you got there before me....
what's going on??why are these kids carrying guns?? why did they kill her?? because she didn't want to give up her possessions??..these kids ( /adult?)must be on something.
I hope they have the right people...
Such a senseless and tragic situation....my condolences to her family
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30-08-05, 07:30 PM
Who the hell sold them those guns ?
young crackheadsin our community ?
Is this what a young boy will do , because of the greed for money and the want of needing towear all the lastest fashion name brand items .
14 and 16 years of age, where are the parents ? , dont the parents ask themselves where is my songetting money from to buy all those expensive items ,garments etc???
The other two released are aged 19 and 33, if that 33 year old is involved this is someones friend , son , boyfriend
these are the people that brake down our community ( if you call it a community )
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[size=2 PT]For all of you who don't know, the term "black on black" is the generic term for any crime committed by a black person against another black person. [/size]
[color=#0000ff PT]Hypothetical scenario: Suppose these teens wereafraid of being murdered in another racially motivated axe attack. They obtained a gun to protect themselves since all the adults are seemingly very accepting of boys being murdered. Somewhere along the line, being prone to the hormonal imbalance that teens suffer, they impetuously murdered this woman. Now who's to blame? Him, for not being as competent as an adult to realize the potential liability of owning a gun? His parents, for not raising him properly? Or all of you who have done nothing to make your children feel safe after that axe murder in Liverpool?[/color]
All the anger shown on this thread should be channelled into a productive course of action for the benefit of the youth, instead of looking for ways justify punishing them. It's ashame that black people hate their kids but are extremely tolerant and understanding of racist who kill them.
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[size=2 PT]For all of you who don't know, the term "black on black" is the generic term for any crime committed by a black person against another black person.
Hypothetical scenario: Suppose these teens wereafraid of being murdered in another racially motivated axe attack. They obtained a gun to protect themselves since all the adults are seemingly very accepting of boys being murdered. Somewhere along the line, being prone to the hormonal imbalance that teens suffer, they impetuously murdered this woman. Now who's to blame? Him, for not being as competent as an adult to realize the potential liability of owning a gun? His parents, for not raising him properly? Or all of you who have done nothing to make your children feel safe after that axe murder in Liverpool?
All the anger shown on this thread should be channelled into a productive course of action for the benefit of the youth, instead of looking for ways justify punishing them. It's ashame that black people hate their kids but are extremely tolerant and understanding of racist who kill them.
The area where these wotless thugs come from is not the same as in Liverpool. They would not have been subjected toa racially motivated attack.
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They armed themselves because they dont have a braincell between them andthink letting off gunshot at anyone anywhere is gonna get themthings they can't be assedto work for. The concept of work is probably alien to them. Allthey know is how to rob and kill - that's the sum acheivement of their worthless existence.
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30-08-05, 08:29 PM
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taken from news media: Police today arrested four males, aged 14, 16, 19 and 33 in connection with the murder. The above just beggars belief....14,16,19 & 33 what in gods name is a 14 & 16 year old doing in the company of an adult with no morals or common sense? This just gets worser and worser by the second
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That's exactly what I was thinking when I read about that! I just dont get it.:X
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30-08-05, 08:57 PM
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Where do racially motivated attacks occur? In the USA,racists attack wherever and whenever they feel like it. I didn't know racists honor constraints in the UK and limit their attacks to certain areas.I think that's your opinion and have no factual basis.
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