Ban on violent net **** planned


Murder victim Jane Longhurst's family has campaigned for new lawsPossessing and accessing extreme internet ****ography could become illegal under government proposals.
Distribution of extreme ****ography is illegal in the UK but this does not affect foreign websites, so new laws could ban possession of it in Britain.
The Home Office and Scottish Executive are consulting on whether new laws are needed and what should be covered.
The idea was welcomed by the family of Jane Longhurst, of Hove, murdered by a man addicted to violent net ****.
The aim is for a new offence of possessing violent and abusive ****ography, which could be punishable by up to three years in prison, Home Officer Minister Paul Goggins told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
Mr Goggins said such images were "extremely offensive to the vast majority" and had no place in society.
A Home Office spokeswoman added the proposed law included deliberately viewing such images which meant "effectively downloading" the information on to the computer.
The new laws would not affect people who came into contact with ****ographic material by accident.


Distribution ban
"These forms of violent and abusive ****ography go far beyond what we allow to be shown in films or even sold in licensed sex shops in the UK, so they should not be available online either."
UK-based websites and other distributors face prosecution under the Obscene Publications Act 1959.



If it is found that the law can be strengthened to cut violent ****ography from our society, then we will take action

Cathy Jamieson
Scottish Executive



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Mr Goggins told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "We do feel it necessary to provide some form of protection for the public, particularly for young children increasingly accessing the internet.
"It is very important that we protect them from accessing these kinds of extreme ****ographic images.
He said there was also a responsibility to "reduce demand" for this kind of material, both to protect those who were abused in its making and the public.
He added that accidental accessing such material would be a defence.
Cathy Jamieson, Scottish Executive Justice Minister, said: "Violent ****ography is abhorrent.
"If it is found that the law can be strengthened to cut violent ****ography from our society, then we will take action."
The proposals were welcomed by Metropolitan Police Commander Dave Johnston.
'Assist investigations'
Mr Johnston, a representative of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said: "The internet is being targeted more and more by those who create sites that specialise in sexual violence and other types of extreme perversion."
The fact many sites were outside the UK made investigations very difficult and the creation of new offences would "assist greatly", he said.
"The fact that it is available over the internet should in no way legitimise it," he said.



The serious problem with it is the assumption that ordinary people cannot be trusted to make up their own minds

Dr Chris Evans
Internet Freedom



Dr Evans interview
However, Dr Chris Evans, founder of a group called Internet Freedom, told the Today programme that no material should be banned and people should be able to make their own minds.
"There is a recognition, even in the proposals, that 60 years of research into media effects shows no conclusive evidence that violent images cause violent acts, so I think that the very idea that we need to ban it doesn't hold water," he said.
"But I think the serious problem with it is the assumption that ordinary people cannot be trusted to make up their own minds about what they read, watch or see."
But Mr Goggins argued that they could "certainly point to cases" where viewing such images had an effect - such as in the brutal murder of Jane Longhurst.


Jane's murder
She was murdered in Hove, Sussex, two years ago by a friend's boyfriend, Graham Coutts, who had spent hours viewing images of women being strangled and raped.
Ms Longhurst's mother Liz, of Reading, Berkshire, was shocked that such images were freely available over the internet and has campaigned for new laws.
Martin Salter, Labour MP for Reading West, praised Mrs Longhurst's "courage and motivation" and said he was pleased the legal "loophole" of the internet could be closed.
He said Mrs Longhurst had sought to ensure others "did not experience her dreadful loss when her lovely daughter Jane was murdered by a sick, self-confessed addict of extreme internet ****".
Consultation on the proposals is open to everybody, including interested parties and the public, and people can give their views until 2 December.

Forum: i know we do not allow Nastiness on this site..but even I'm shocked at this move...you can now potentially go to prison for having imagines of two people having sex on your PC..can this be RIGHT?

And how can you not come into contact with such stuff, anyone with a popular email Addy provider like Hotmail, Gmail & yahoo..get bombarded with this crap on a daily basis..so now just for looking at an unsolicited email you could go to prison..come on this is a bit stupid surely..?

Thevexcuse that it will somehow cut down on sex attack is a fallacy surely if your predisposed to that sort of behaviour, cutting off this avenue aint going to make a blind bit of difference will it?

Or am I wrong?

Is the idea even enforceable?? someone could make a tape of violent **** and go give it a friend...No internet involved at all.......
So what are they really looking to ban or control?

Yep like Gary Glitter..but different..because he had images of children and naturally scum like that have to go to prison because thats bang out of order..however have pictures of two consenting adults doing the do..is a little bit different in my view..

I mean if its two consenting adults then what can u do? most ****os (even beastiality) is done by ppl who love that stuff, or they love the money....
BBC went as far as actually airing a program on beastiality a while back....interviewing people who regularly sucked off or banged their pets (crazy). The aim of such a program baffles me, if I remember correctly the program didn't even attempt to put the people who did these things in a bad light....It "explored" their lifestlye.

Kunjufu

If you have a limewire/kazaa/napster type thing just type in **** on a search to see the titles of the files available that people are swapping. You don't have to download, in fact I'd recommend you don't but just observe the titles. It's no joke sir.

I typed in "beyonce" once looking for a music video and got things like "beyonce lookalike gets raped by 12 inch..." Did the same for a Christina milian video typing in "christina" and getting "Chrissie gets beaten and chocked by monster c**k*"

Im telling you a clampdown is LONG overdue...

Im not against ****, but the level of violence that some people go to... what was shocking a few years ago is passe now so they keep raising the bar and doing nastier and nastier things. It stopped being a matter of just two people having sex a long time ago.

DM, thats just a title...Its the content that matters isn't it? Let me give u a scenario;
Say u were getting intimate with a chick and then she suddenly tells u to spank her.
Would u spank her??
Say u did spank her...and it wasn'y as hard as she wanted would u decline to further spank her? even though its what she enjoys doing in the privacy of her own house?
What are ur views on beastiality?

That has to be a rhetorical question... please say it is

I can't imagine why you would ask me such a thing.





To your point on spanking well yes that is minor but this doesn't say spanking. It says "raped" and "beaten" or "choked".

DM wrote:

Kunjufu

If you have a limewire/kazaa/napster type thing just type in **** on a search to see the titles of the files available that people are swapping. You don't have to download, in fact I'd recommend you don't but just observe the titles. It's no joke sir.

I typed in "beyonce" once looking for a music video and got things like "beyonce lookalike gets raped by 12 inch..." Did the same for a Christina milian