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Is this the America Harriet Tubman fought for?
The African-American community will remain powerless if it continues to elect representatives who are looking for a job. I watched the clip from Michael Moore’s movie Farenheit 9/11 showing African-American leaders trying to get one Senator to sign a bill to protest the 2000 Presidential election and it did not happen.
Donald Winkfield

Here in America, there are too many doubts being raised about “Fair elections.� The United States has lost the right to interfere in other countries’ elections. To add insult to injury – “African-American� voters are still being disenfranchised and there has been no real action to cease this practice.

Despite the rigid hands of the Slave Master and being enslaved on America’s soil, the Most High made it possible for the children of those enslaved to move forward. To understand what is happening in the world today, we must go back in time and learn the True-Story of America’s most beaten down People – survivors of the Black Holocaust. Their children are now called “African-Americans.�
My ancestors did not come to America by way of Ellis Island. They died fighting to be free so I could have a right to vote. I’ve learned that no matter how many African-American votes are cast – there is no law that says these votes have to be counted. We are in the twenty-first century – what kind of bull is this?

The makers and shakers of these elections are always put in place. I’m convinced, “Votes,� do not pick any candidate. The voice of the People was silenced after the 2000 Presidential election by the Electoral College and capped by the Supreme Court. There should not have been any more surprises or magic tricks being pulled at the voting polls.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out. I know the Ancestors are looking down on us shaking their head. Most of them didn’t know how to read or write, but they got their points heard without the use of computers, fax machines, telephones or kissing butt.

This election made it clear that the ‘Race issue,’ in this country does matter. The one percent did not forget what happened in 1995, when over two million African-American men marched in Washington D.C., and stood on the front lawn of the Nation’s Capital in atonement.
Issues that would affect a large number of American Citizens was not put on the table and discussed in the 2004 Presidential election. The “Voters’ Right Bill,� comes up for the President’s approval in 2007, and it wasn’t given a thought.

There is no nexus when issues that affect you are put on the back burner or left somewhere in wonderland. How can you hold someone running for the highest post in the country to task, when your interests are not taken to heart or put on the table for discussion? How do you ask someone for something they have taken from you in the first place?

The one percent that rules the United States (U.S.) also controls all its wealth. The right to vote is not a major concern of most Republicans and some Democrats. Their prime concerns are ‘gold, oil, diamonds and silver (GODS),’ which contracts are made by those with absolute power and control.

African-American democrats continue to find themselves blocked and locked out of the process. Not only was the voting issues slapped off the table, Reparations were handled like Dorothy going to the Wizard trying to go home, the Tin man wanting a heart, the Scarecrow a brain and the Lion asking for courage – just to be ignored in Toto.

Four years ago, there was no doubt how I was going to vote in 2004, and nothing along the way changed my mind. The “Selected White House,� needed to be changed. I just didn’t focus on George W. Bush, because I knew, to remove him meant a personnel change in the White House.

The “War in Iraq,� where no weapons of mass destruction were found – as the attacks on September 11th, pointed toward Osama Bin Laden who cannot be tied to any involvement whatsoever. However, the real issues were not dealt with – Bush lied to the American People and lead countries into a war, and it did not mean a thing. Why? Because America is racist and there’s no rules for the rulers.
The Republican Party knows the Democratic Party very well. Democrats like former Mayor Ed Koch have divided the party in favor of the one percent. Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who rode the wave into City Hall on the “African-American� vote, jumps to the other side of the fence where his true interest lie – in the Republican Party and the one percent.

Thousands of American servicemen and women are dead as well as thousand of Iraqi civilian men, women and children. Yet hundreds of trucks are escorted each day out of Iraq filled with oil, when will we get true answers to this madness?

The African-American community will remain powerless if it continues to elect representatives who are looking for a job. I watched the clip from Michael Moore’s movie Farenheit 9/11 showing African-American leaders trying to get one Senator to sign a bill to protest the 2000 Presidential election and it did not happen. To me that showed just how powerful the African-American vote really is – and why doesn’t the senate look like America?

So we are left to listen to slogans, “Contract on America,� “Leave no child behind,� “If you are not with us, you are against us,� “They hate us because of our freedom.� When do we start connecting the dots? As George Bush put it in the movie: “You fool me once...shame on..shame on you..You can't fool me...You can't be fooled again".

Yeah? After this last election, other countries don’t look at our freedom or as a great power – they now call us – free and dumb.

Winkfield’s column appears every week in The Black Star News. Contact him for consideration regarding covering your story. Send comments to: ON THE SPOT, In Care Of: Post Office Box 230149, Queens County 11423 – Blackstarnew2@aol.coml – 917-248-179. We can protect whistleblowers by honoring their privacy with confidentiality.



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Is this the America Harriet Tubman fought for?
The African-American community will remain powerless if it continues to elect representatives who are looking for a job. I watched the clip from Michael Moore’s movie Farenheit 9/11 showing African-American leaders trying to get one Senator to sign a bill to protest the 2000 Presidential election and it did not happen.
Donald Winkfield

Here in America, there are too many doubts being raised about “Fair elections.� The United States has lost the right to interfere in other countries’ elections. To add insult to injury – “African-American� voters are still being disenfranchised and there has been no real action to cease this practice.

Despite the rigid hands of the Slave Master and being enslaved on America’s soil, the Most High made it possible for the children of those enslaved to move forward. To understand what is happening in the world today, we must go back in time and learn the True-Story of America’s most beaten down People – survivors of the Black Holocaust. Their children are now called “African-Americans.�
My ancestors did not come to America by way of Ellis Island. They died fighting to be free so I could have a right to vote. I’ve learned that no matter how many African-American votes are cast – there is no law that says these votes have to be counted. We are in the twenty-first century – what kind of bull is this?

The makers and shakers of these elections are always put in place. I’m convinced, “Votes,� do not pick any candidate. The voice of the People was silenced after the 2000 Presidential election by the Electoral College and capped by the Supreme Court. There should not have been any more surprises or magic tricks being pulled at the voting polls.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out. I know the Ancestors are looking down on us shaking their head. Most of them didn’t know how to read or write, but they got their points heard without the use of computers, fax machines, telephones or kissing butt.

This election made it clear that the ‘Race issue,’ in this country does matter. The one percent did not forget what happened in 1995, when over two million African-American men marched in Washington D.C., and stood on the front lawn of the Nation’s Capital in atonement.
Issues that would affect a large number of American Citizens was not put on the table and discussed in the 2004 Presidential election. The “Voters’ Right Bill,� comes up for the President’s approval in 2007, and it wasn’t given a thought.

There is no nexus when issues that affect you are put on the back burner or left somewhere in wonderland. How can you hold someone running for the highest post in the country to task, when your interests are not taken to heart or put on the table for discussion? How do you ask someone for something they have taken from you in the first place?

The one percent that rules the United States (U.S.) also controls all its wealth. The right to vote is not a major concern of most Republicans and some Democrats. Their prime concerns are ‘gold, oil, diamonds and silver (GODS),’ which contracts are made by those with absolute power and control.

African-American democrats continue to find themselves blocked and locked out of the process. Not only was the voting issues slapped off the table, Reparations were handled like Dorothy going to the Wizard trying to go home, the Tin man wanting a heart, the Scarecrow a brain and the Lion asking for courage – just to be ignored in Toto.

Four years ago, there was no doubt how I was going to vote in 2004, and nothing along the way changed my mind. The “Selected White House,� needed to be changed. I just didn’t focus on George W. Bush, because I knew, to remove him meant a personnel change in the White House.

The “War in Iraq,� where no weapons of mass destruction were found – as the attacks on September 11th, pointed toward Osama Bin Laden who cannot be tied to any involvement whatsoever. However, the real issues were not dealt with – Bush lied to the American People and lead countries into a war, and it did not mean a thing. Why? Because America is racist and there’s no rules for the rulers.
The Republican Party knows the Democratic Party very well. Democrats like former Mayor Ed Koch have divided the party in favor of the one percent. Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who rode the wave into City Hall on the “African-American� vote, jumps to the other side of the fence where his true interest lie – in the Republican Party and the one percent.

Thousands of American servicemen and women are dead as well as thousand of Iraqi civilian men, women and children. Yet hundreds of trucks are escorted each day out of Iraq filled with oil, when will we get true answers to this madness?

The African-American community will remain powerless if it continues to elect representatives who are looking for a job. I watched the clip from Michael Moore’s movie Farenheit 9/11 showing African-American leaders trying to get one Senator to sign a bill to protest the 2000 Presidential election and it did not happen. To me that showed just how powerful the African-American vote really is – and why doesn’t the senate look like America?

So we are left to listen to slogans, “Contract on America,� “Leave no child behind,� “If you are not with us, you are against us,� “They hate us because of our freedom.� When do we start connecting the dots? As George Bush put it in the movie: “You fool me once...shame on..shame on you..You can't fool me...You can't be fooled again".

Yeah? After this last election, other countries don’t look at our freedom or as a great power – they now call us – free and dumb.

Winkfield’s column appears every week in The Black Star News. Contact him for consideration regarding covering your story. Send comments to: ON THE SPOT, In Care Of: Post Office Box 230149, Queens County 11423 – Blackstarnew2@aol.coml – 917-248-179. We can protect whistleblowers by honoring their privacy with confidentiality.
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I admit I don't particularly concern myself with the ancestors or The Most High, but yes, in America we have to deal with a lot of nitwits and chickensh!ts.

Last year I had a few conversations with a Black man a year older than me who had served in Vietnam. He told me that he still didn't understand what that war was about.

I remeber watching Johnson on television talking about the war and my mother coming down the stairs. She said, "That's YOUR PRESIDENT!" I didn't say anything but I thought, "I am just trying to understand what this dummy is talking about to figure out what is going on with this crazy war."

As long as Black Americans believe in being LOYAL we are going to put up with bullsh!t. And since the palefaces control the schools. And Black mothers help put bullsh!t in their kids heads.

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This was a crazy thread.Why are we dumb?


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Actually I have wondered about that a lot Burning Spear.

How many Black men were lynched 100 years ago because they weren't as dumb as some White morons wanted them to be? This may relate to that thread with the psychiatrist saying intelligent Blacks were killed. But I am inclined to think of it as neurological and psychological rather than genetic.

Psychological experimentation has already shown that animals raised in understimulating environments during ages of rapid brain growth can have mental deficiencies. Could slaves have learned to discourage intelligence in their children because it increased their chances of getting killed?

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Stupid threads like this are not genetic in basis.I think it speaks to the intelligence or lack thereof of a particular poster...


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Stupid threads like this are not genetic in basis.I think it speaks to the intelligence or lack thereof of a particular poster...

101stAirborne wrote: "And the author and poster are among the dumbest."



We have reached an all new level of debate, don't you think?

Some questions you should ask yourself.....

Who is Harriet Tubman and what did she stand for?

Everyday when you wake up, do you wake up with more freedoms, or less?

know who you are and where you have come from.



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Compare the Black people of the past, and of the present. InHarriet's days and through the sixties, they were strong, theymade no excuses about ways of obtaining their freedom and they literally fought to the end for it. Today's Blacks have forgotten where they came from. Now that we got a little taste of freedom, you cannot tell us anything. Those who supposedly are fighting for our righs are treating many of these causes like a fashion statement. They march only for one day and that is it! You don't see them have continuos marches and sacrifies like the did in past.

We as Black people are taking our rights for granted. It's like we don't care and just because we lose an election were ready to clal it call it quits. I also see many of us selling our souls to the devil, going to political parties that they know could careless about us. Sadly, were showing the world our weakness and there are people like Bush and his cronies who are taking advantage of it and if were not careful, were going to be back in the same place we fought so hard to get out of---- racial tyranny.
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[align=center]Stop spreading this nonsensical white boy rhetoric.We aren't doing anything different than the last generations except we are more individualistic.Any bad societalhabits that have come about are a result of the counterculture movement of the 60's and 70's.I don't think change is a bad thing unlike others.If we would've stayed the same then we would be stagnant like most foreign people..We are coming back home to our Black American roots and getting away from the pursuit of whiteness..Just like how now you ask these young Black American folks that are on the comeup and most of them want to work independently for self/wider community instead of being a corporate bi!ch boy/bottom of the barrel expendable employee all their lives...[/align]
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InHarriet's days and through the sixties, they were strong, theymade no excuses about ways of obtaining their freedom and they literally fought to the end for it. Today's Blacks have forgotten where they came from.
I think you are being selective about which Black people you are concentrating on and talking about. I don't doubt for a second that Harriet Tubman knew some trifling, useless, n______ that were more of a hinderance than a help.

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
  ~George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman, 1903
Harriet Tubman was undoubtedly an unreasonable woman.

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