Bases for unity under skin color;The Bases for African Unity



It is often put to the race-centric people of the world what is the fundamental bases for unity under the banner of race?

Some of us eat Pork

Some of us believe in God some of us don’t

Some of us believe in Abortion

Some of us drink alcohol and take other drugs

Some of us marry our women

Some of us practice a culture found on the continent some of us don’t



some of these items are far from small, because how can two people unite if one believe in Homosexuality and abortion and the other believes in African marriage and family---its not a "small point."



In a nutshell what we share is in reality a group of phenotypical features which put us in the same racial family. And are we to believe having similar skin color a shallow dark pigmentation is the basis for unity?

The only thing that unifies us now is nothing more than common oppressor—nothing more nothing less



thats why unity can only really come via cultural unity www.africancode.org is a plan--methinks

Education - Education - Education

Is my opinion...

Most just need to learn how to be humble, that ''king of the ants'' part was too true its why we end up shooting and bickering with one another. Its all to easy to fly off at one of your own but no one seems to recogninse another ant as king or perhaps feels threatened.

We're being pimped big time and it sucks... we may as well kneel and kiss the white mans ring.

*?learned defeatism?*

Prehaps our generations are lost in internal affairs and should commit ourselves to building afro-centric schools based on AFRICAN roots forgetting all religions. All thats needed is to instill that pride within unity to set ourselves/ourchildrens futurefree... the education should be (or will be) private and would need investment from some of the many f***ing millionaries out there.

(murmers under his breath)

Apparently it'll cost £2 Million with students parents paying £5,000 a year. Leinient financing should also be offered.

P.s; I've been smoking and dreaming again.

I'll call u Mao Mao.

Peace!

Im tryna avoid analogies, but ill try to make this one of the last.

If short men were getting bullied by a couple of tall men on characteristics that they dont wanna change and couldnt change if they wanted to, the short men wouldnt unite simply bcus all short men get along or bcus they like each other, but they will unite on the basis of their attack (oppression). Therefore the two tall guy bullying them might have short guys who get a piece of bullying their identical short men so they have a different reality to the majority of the short men. The short men in the process of uniting agaisnt the tall guys would have to mobalise not only against the tall guys but also the few shortmen that have betrayed the majority.

My point is we should never unite simply bcus we are black, that has always been one of the main downfalls ofall plans and leaders in the past. We have to unite the black and oppressed, the African working class, with an agenda that fight for the interests of the African working class, and of a nation that enslaved the working class would be the majority of your people.

We need to look at those amongst us that relate to the common problem and the common enemy and base our struggle on that. There will be african workers that might not be doing right, but thats based on the entrapped, education, economics and power of their communities which is out of their peoples control. Thats where political understanding and education comes in. Thers more but u got the jist.

UHURU means FREEDOM!!

This is a big thread. nicely done niceone.gif

ocacia, i not convinced we can. Although it doesnt mean we shoulfs stop trying

you get alot of the gesturing to the contrary but its what it is lip service. and we all know black people can talk( dont nobody ask me to explain that comment because its self-explanatory)

The trivial stuff you mentioned at the beginnign arent any real barriers to unity. Totallyinconsequential in the grand schem of things. People are made differently. The biggest brrier is your last sentance

The only thing that unifies us now is nothing more than common oppressor—nothing more nothing less

- even on this point there isnt unity of thought, unlike 50 odd years ago where this would have beena no-brainer. For some opinion has changed. Not neccasrily on whether we arestill opressed, more on the extent of the oppression. The effect on our daily lives, etc,etc.

i have to be honest and say unity will be very hard. Muslim unity makes sense, because of shared values. but racial unity. look at chinese they do it. but do u know why

because chinese all over the world are chinese first (not yellow people-chinese)

hence their motherland china is the bases for unity, anything in the interest of mother china is in their interest. Hence as a global collective they can galvanise action.

Most of us scared to death of being African. Our morals are drawn from the gutters of European sub culture. I have to say this because the myth of us being to European is a lie, actually if we were more European we wouldnt have so many problems. Europeans stil marry their women we generally in UK and USA dont. social habits like eating at the table as a family dont exist.

We must salvage our culture and identify with our motherland AFRICA, only then do we have some basis for unity, But if next man wants to be black and gay and nex man wants to be black and fight in the US army we got issues

I dont think the religious differences are our issue because all religions have common moral cores so we can find common ground there. But our culture is the problem and we need to insitutionalize what is means to be African and define ourselves as Africa based on this culture that we need to reclaim

Unity to me means peace. If you are looking for unity because of a common oppressor then once freed from the oppressor there will be no need for unity. Most likely when this is oppressor is bygone we carry the same learned behaviors to become just like the oppressors ourselves. Why? Because the oppressor instilled in us a psychological dependent reason to favor him or her and their ways.

The Maroons of Surinam in the past took unity to a level only as it appear through their accumulated knowledge of their rich African ancestors and teachings remembered. Their ancestor were probably independent peoples themselves in Africa. Their ancestors probably lived far in the interior in Africa for a reason from the clutches of venturous white men and their alliance with greedy black tribes along the coast. They also probably did not want to be bothered by neighboring large tribes and their 'agendas' and African 'empires.' And lastly perhaps they were driven by outside entities to live this life, but with this one I highly doubt it.

Not every slave, but a group of men, women, and children which many probably died on their escape from the plantations in South America, did not look back at what was lost but looked forward to a life at peace even if it meant that they had to die and not take part in the fullness of this fight for peace. This attitude reflected in their new life in a new land which gave them a foundation to grow together instead of growing apart. The initial Maroons of Surinam appear to not emulate the oppressor by using extreme and unjust violence like on the slave plantations or cleared the land of the interior for massive plantantions. They did not have ambitions to run or dominate everyone and everything once freed from their oppressor. Perhaps in these days and times certainly things have changed with them so I wont be suprised otherwise.

But if there is any indication of us becoming like the oppressor then unity will be treated as a far away concept.

But this is just one basis above for unity there is others but from what I see people organize themselves to practice their cult like behaviors on others. For example sugar with bacteria rots your teeth out if you don't provide a way to brush away it from your teeth. Many Native American Indians once switched to western diets lose their teeth at an earlier age than their ancestors did. The government and industry said its ok for them to consume such delicious treats at their convience and expense but in the end they find out that it ruined their dental health. They felt great loss with their teeth gone at a faster rate. Later on the government and organizations sees a health crises and perscribe that they learn to brush their teeth. But at first the government did not help or prevent them to combat the problem earlier. It was until later. Because of industry cult-like behavior and irresponsibility in people's lives they get away with this to continue practicing this deceptive or cult like operations. That is unity of industry and government. But this unity is not for independence but dependence and injustice.

my point exactly

If we unify on shallow color lines it will have no profit for our children

We must unify on something deeper than skin darkness

unity on color cant bring peace

We must thus fight to educate a culture and African identity

Ocacia wrote:
Ocacia, Africa is a continent, with 50+ countries... while China is a single country. Many of these Africa states are divided economically and are divided by class...

Chinese are united economically first and unification is pretty much easy work for them in weakened African states and Caribbean countries as these countries are weakened economically with weak economic systems which allow outsiders to easily operate inside them...

It's hard to say that African Americans can be unify under the name Africans, African Americas should first remember they are Americans first economically, because that is the system they have to operate inside of to second unify as African Americans economically...

The unification of the African Diaspora;
The African Americans, Afro Caribbean and British Caribbean is another step to manifest destiny

china is diverse but unified there more people in china than in Africa

anyway that wasnt my point, it was giving examples of groups that have unified.

if african americas put america first we will fail

this is the root of the problem, these stupidd borders

go and watch http://www.500yearslater.com and see the problem facing african all over the world is the same. no way can we continue to look at stupid locdal economics as a priority it is actually a shocking suggestion.

garvey had the vision, x had this vision unity has to be global.

? did the Jews talk like that and look at local economics first--u must be kidding

unity first step is to identify correctly as a single group of people--being african and what that means.

We could stop focusing on our differences and recognize the massive amount of similarities. The same issue could be applied to Human unity as well. Seems like all the races go out of there way to prove how different we are from each other while ignoring the fact we're all the same species and for the most part genetically the same.