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Moussaoui can face death penalty


Moussaoui shouted a curse after the jury's verdict was read


The jury in the US trial of confessed al-Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui has decided he is eligible to face the death penalty when he is sentenced.


A second phase of hearings will now take place, beginning on Thursday, to determine if he should be executed.
As the jury's verdict was announced in court, Moussaoui shouted: "You'll never get my blood, God curse you all."
Prosecutors argue he should be executed because he lied about the 9/11 plot. His defence say he knew very little.


Moussaoui has pleaded guilty to six counts of conspiracy to attack the US.
In order to deem him eligible for the death penalty, the jurors had to agree that Moussaoui's actions led directly to at least one death on 11 September 2001.
He was detained three weeks before the attacks but is accused of concealing the plot from FBI agents.


'Mentally ill'
The sentencing trial now enters a second phase - expected to take several months - in which testimony will be heard from relatives of people who died in the terror attacks.
The jury must then retire for a second time to consider whether to impose the death penalty.

By this verdict, the jury has found that death is a possible sentence in this case

Court official Edward Adams



Jury's verdict
Mixed reaction to decision
The BBC's Justin Webb in Washington says the prosecution will use the testimony from victims' relatives to try to press the case for execution.
Meanwhile, the defence will try to show Moussaoui is mentally ill, our correspondent says. It may also suggest that he wants to be executed - making the alternative penalty, life in prison, a tougher punishment.


Court official Edward Adams read out the jurors' verdict outside the Virginia courthouse.
The jury had found unanimously that the government had established beyond reasonable doubt that Moussaoui was guilty of "conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism", he said.


The jurors also decided that charges of conspiracy to destroy aircraft and conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction had been proven, he said.
"By this verdict, the jury has found that death is a possible sentence in this case," Mr Adams concluded.


'Deserves to die'
Speaking outside the court, Rosemary Dillard, whose husband Eddie died in the 11 September attacks, said she believed Moussaoui deserved the death penalty.




I describe him like a dog with rabies that cannot be cured

Abraham Scott, victim's husband
"It's not just about my husband, it's what he did to the United States," she said.
"He did that to all of you. None of you feel the same way that you did before 9/11 2001."
Abraham Scott, whose wife Janice Marie died in the attacks, said he had found little comfort in the jury's decision. "I thought I'd be elated but I wasn't," he said.
"I describe him like a dog with rabies that cannot be cured. The only cure is to put him or her to death."
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist welcomed the jury's finding as "a small but important piece of justice".
The US Justice Department said it was pleased with the result.
"Our efforts on behalf of the victims of 9/11 will continue as we pursue the next phase of this trial," a spokeswoman said.


'Fantasist'
In their closing arguments last Wednesday, prosecutors said Moussaoui was eligible for the death penalty because by lying about the 9/11 plot to FBI investigators, he contributed to the deaths of nearly 3,000 people.
They cited testimony from Moussaoui during the trial in which he said he was supposed to have flown a fifth plane into the White House on 11 September.
But lead defence lawyer Edward MacMahon described his client, a Moroccan-born French citizen, as a fantasist and al-Qaeda "hanger-on" who was trying to write himself a role in history.
Moussaoui was arrested on 16 August 2001 on immigration charges after the instructor at the flying school he was attending in Minnesota became suspicious of his behaviour.
He told federal agents he was a tourist who wanted to learn to fly for personal enjoyment.
He is the only person to be charged in connection with the 11 September 2001 attacks on New York and Washington.



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Post imported post - 05-04-06, 08:56 AM

Simple question...given that he only consorted, plotted with associates and did not as far as i know kill anyone on 9/11...is it right for the United states to even contemplate executing this man?


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Yes he should be put to death, he was part of the plan to harm innocent people and he had the power to stop it, but he sat in his hotel and let his comrads do the work.

He's just as guilty as the hijackers.
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He was guilty of CONSPIRACY. No one in this country dies for conspiracy unless we go back to the days of WW2 when those Germans were caught here and plotting terrorist acts and they were put to death.

But going off today's laws or even the laws of the Oklahoma bombing only the person that was directly responsible was put to death. Terry Nichols was not even though he was part of the conspiracy. I am very curious as to how they would justify his death and not Nichols.......
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Post imported post - 05-04-06, 02:21 PM

Moussaoui hadno direct or even indirect connections to the terror attacks of9/11. I am still unconvinced that Al-Queda actually did it without help from our government, or if the government did it themselves.

The U.S. government needed a scape goat to divert people's attention and rational thoughts, and they have found one...


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The funny thing is in the early and late 90s all the most notorious terrorists where seeking haven in Britain. When they where expelled from the middle and east north african countries. At one time London was called "Londonistan" even other european countries where complaining that england was harbouring well known operatives. Rumour has it that Bin laden visited London in 1994 and even went on a tour of central london and aslo went toan arsenal match. To me it seems that the american people do not want to admit that their government could have played a vital part in 9/11 after all this guys who areon the most wanted terrorist listtoday where once the "freedom fighters" who where fighting the evil soviets in afghanistan.
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The funny thing is in the early and late 90s all the most notorious terrorists where seeking haven in Britain. When they where expelled from the middle and east north african countries. At one time London was called "Londonistan" even other european countries where complaining that england was harbouring well known operatives. Rumour has it that Bin laden visited London in 1994 and even went on a tour of central london and aslo went toan arsenal match. To me it seems that the american people do not want to admit that their government could have played a vital part in 9/11 after all this guys who areon the most wanted terrorist listtoday where once the "freedom fighters" who where fighting the evil soviets in afghanistan.
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You are absolutely right...most Americans are not willing to accept that they have been duped by their government. Some of us (such as myself) have not been duped, but are silenced...


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He was guilty of CONSPIRACY. No one in this country dies for conspiracy unless we go back to the days of WW2 when those Germans were caught here and plotting terrorist acts and they were put to death.

But going off today's laws or even the laws of the Oklahoma bombing only the person that was directly responsible was put to death. Terry Nichols was not even though he was part of the conspiracy. I am very curious as to how they would justify his death and not Nichols.......

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American Justice and Democracy at work again. Time to fry another black man.


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safety: i have to agree it appears to be that the WEST appears to be rewriting the LAW and RULES to suit themselves when it comes to 9/11.. It was this level of double standards that led to 9/11 in the first place..will they never learn?


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I dont agree it is just another 'fry a black man time'. Either conspiracy or not, any body that had the knowledge of such heinous crimes and did not try to stop it but encouraged it, is not fit to live amongst humans. If they had a problemwith the US govt. they should have attacked the Government, not innocent workers 99% of whom had nothingto do with Govt policy.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's daily intelligence briefings in the weeks leading up to the September 11 terror attacks included a warning of the possibility that Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network would attempt to hijack a U.S.-based airliner, senior administration officials said Wednesday.


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Stick-up,

I dont agree it is just another 'fry a black man time'. Either conspiracy or not, any body that had the knowledge of such heinous crimes and did not try to stop it but encouraged it, is not fit to live amongst humans. If they had a problemwith the US govt. they should have attacked the Government, not innocent workers 99% of whom had nothingto do with Govt policy.


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I'm not defending mouss. If he fries then he fries I don't care.

What I do care about is the USA constantly bending, breaking and making up new laws just so it can carry on being the most corrupt nation on earth.

They say that they fight for justice, yet they imprison people without due judicial process indefinately

They say they are pro-democracy, yet when a govt gets elected that they don't like they organise a coup and kill the president.

If you wanna talk about consp