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It's not right that they should be allowed to leap frog (amnesty/guest worker program) over people who have spent thousands of dollars and waited for years to become American citizens.

Exactly. This is one of the main issues i have with illegal immigrants who can partake in the benefits of being US citzens while at the same time not paying the price for it.
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When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the bible and we had the land. They taught us to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had bible, and they had the land.
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The Mexicans wanted attention, they got it lol:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

Nationwide Raids Intensify Focus on the Employment of Illegal Immigrants
By Nicole Gaouette, Times Staff Writer
April 21, 2006



WASHINGTON — In raids that set a record for workplace-enforcement arrests in a single day, immigration officials announced Thursday that they had taken 1,187 illegal immigrants into custody at wood products plants in 26 states and had charged seven company managers with crimes that can carry long prison terms.

The operation targeted about 40 plants operated by IFCO Systems North America, a Dutch company based in Houston that is the largest manufacturer of wooden pallets in the country. Two California facilities were hit, with eight arrests in Bakersfield and 29 in San Bernardino.
Wednesday's raids, the culmination of a yearlong investigation, came at a sensitive time. Congress is returning from spring recess next week deeply divided on how to overhaul immigration laws.

Reaction to the raids reflected the well-drawn lines in the debate. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said in a statement, "A photo-op crackdown by [the Bush administration's Homeland Security Department] to prove a political point won't erase its failed record." But conservative Republicans hailed the action. "Reform starts with the border but doesn't stop there…. [Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff's announcement] shows his continued commitment to immigration enforcement," Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said in a statement.

The raids contained tacit warnings for everyone involved in the debate on immigration.

For conservative Republicans who have argued for a hard-line approach that focuses exclusively on tougher enforcement, the scale of the raids and the arrest of managers could be seen as a demonstration that the Bush administration could be trusted to enforce immigration laws vigorously. Though hiring illegal immigrants has been a crime since 1986, there has been virtually no enforcement of that law, a fact that angers conservatives.

President Bush, many moderate Republicans and most Democrats favor stricter security but say it can be effective only if accompanied by a program that allows foreign workers to enter the country legally and by provisions permitting most current illegal immigrants to earn legal status. Thursday's actions were a vivid reminder that such raids could become a regular feature of life for immigrants if a way out of the current impasse is not found and public unhappiness over the immigration problem grows.

The business community, which generally supports a program that would ensure a supply of foreign workers, has kept a low profile in the controversy. The arrest of managers Thursday served notice that its stake in the issue was more than economic.

Chertoff said the operation marked a new commitment to enforcing immigration laws in the workplace and, with the use of criminal charges against managers that carry tough penalties, a new strategy for dealing with people who hire undocumented workers.

"Americans are rightly concerned about the need to enforce immigration law," Chertoff said, pledging to strengthen efforts to pursue firms that hire illegal immigrants.

"We are going to move beyond the current level of activity to a higher level in each month and year to come," he said, adding that the overall strategy "is designed to look at the business of illegal immigration and attack that business at every point of vulnerability."

According to a federal affidavit filed in the northern New York district where the case is to be prosecuted:

The investigation that produced Wednesday's raids began with a tip that IFCO workers in New York were seen ripping up their W-2 income tax forms and that an assistant manager had explained that the workers were illegal immigrants who had fake Social Security cards and did not intend to file taxes.

Through an informant who was an illegal immigrant, federal agents learned that the company reimbursed workers for obtaining fraudulent documents, recruited illegal immigrants and advised such immigrants on how to avoid detection, according to the affidavit.

Besides the alleged illegal immigrants' arrests, seven current and former IFCO managers were each charged with conspiring to transport, harbor, encourage and induce illegal immigrants to enter the United States. Two other employees were arrested on criminal charges related to document fraud.

The conspiracy charges carry penalties of up to 10 years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000 for each illegal immigrant involved in the violations.

The weight of criminal charges is central to the new strategy, said Julie L. Myers, assistant secretary for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. Companies saw the past enforcement approach — in which they might pay fines for hiring illegal immigrants — as just another cost of doing business, Myers said. But her agency will no longer tolerate such corporate officers, she said.

"Just a small fine or a slap on the wrist is not enough of a deterrent," Myers said. "The prospect of 10 years in prison carries much sharper teeth."

Criminal charges have been filed before in immigration cases, including two cases last year and one in which last week the owners of a Baltimore sushi chain pleaded guilty to conspiracy to harbor illegal immigrants and conspiracy to launder money. Money-laundering conspiracy carries a maximum sentence of 20 years, the other count 10 years.

The crime of knowingly hiring an undocumented immigrant carries a six-month sentence.

"If you don't hold the company accountable, you're not really achieving much," said Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Dean Boyd. "In all our future cases, we hope to bring criminal charges."

On Thursday, Chertoff also called on Congress to allow his agency "carefully crafted access to Social Security data" to help detect companies obviously employing illegal immigrants. Current law prevents the Internal Revenue Service or Social Security Administration from sharing information.

The immigration overhaul plan under consideration in the Senate would give the Department of Homeland Security access to some Social Security data. The bill already passed by the House, while generally more punitive, does not give immigration authorities access to such records.

In the course of their IFCO investigation, agents learned that more than half its workers were using invalid Social Security numbers.

They also learned that the Social Security Administration had sent 13 letters in 2004 and 2005 alerting IFCO that it had hundreds of workers with invalid Social Security numbers. Homeland Security officials say that if they had been supplied with copies of those letters, they could have acted against the firm much sooner.

Agents raided IFCO facilities in Alabama, Massachusetts, Virginia, Michigan, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Utah and Oklahoma, among other states — an illustration of how widespread illegal immigration is.

One business lawyer suggested it was not fair to target employers until they were given a reliable way to determine whether workers were in the country legally.

"The recent criminal conspiracy charges brought against IFCO Systems signal the beginning of a long-awaited enforcement campaign," said Theodore Ruthizer, chairman of the Business Immigration Group at the New York firm of Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel.

"But this campaign cannot succeed unless and until the system is changed to establish a national database that employers can easily access to find out who is authorized to work, and to liberalize current law to provide legal opportunities for many low-skilled workers to qualify for work status in this country to fill shortage positions in a wide variety of industries."
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I am not an American, however, I have posted many times on this topic, as far back as early last year and back then I was called racist for saying that black people in America need watch their backs because the Hispanics are taking America by stealth with the backing of coporate america. Nowadays you don't need a full out war to take a country, you can just walk in to a country and multiply like rabbits. Now I don't hate these people because in the long-ru they will suffer and realise they are being used for urely economic reasons. Nevertheless, it's not in the interest of the average AA to support hispanic aims. Don't wait for your black 'leaders' to do something about it because they won't, AAs must make noise themselves for they are alone. Many of these 'leaders' are in the pockets of rich white people like george bush. I would even go as far as to say that people like Jessie Jackson are working for white people, not for black people by keeping black people passive so as not to rock the boat and keep the elite in power. Look at people like Jessie, what has he done with all his power recently to lookout for his people first?

The rich love the fact that illegals are here, corporate america has been waiting with bated breath for a new slavery and here it is. Rich people are the only ones who will not suffer. All others from the poor to the middle class, black, white and hispanic are going to suffer for this in the long-term when their employment rights are eroded and the nations children's average test scores go backwards and social services are overwhelmed.

AA's its time to stand up for your rights now. you don't need your 'leaders'.
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I am not an American, however, I have posted many times on this topic, as far back as early last year and back then I was called racist for saying that black people in America need watch their backs because the Hispanics are taking America by stealth with the backing of coporate america. Nowadays you don't need a full out war to take a country, you can just walk in to a country and multiply like rabbits. Now I don't hate these people because in the long-ru they will suffer and realise they are being used for urely economic reasons. Nevertheless, it's not in the interest of the average AA to support hispanic aims. Don't wait for your black 'leaders' to do something about it because they won't, AAs must make noise themselves for they are alone. Many of these 'leaders' are in the pockets of rich white people like george bush. I would even go as far as to say that people like Jessie Jackson are working for white people, not for black people by keeping black people passive so as not to rock the boat and keep the elite in power. Look at people like Jessie, what has he done with all his power recently to lookout for his people first?

The rich love the fact that illegals are here, corporate america has been waiting with bated breath for a new slavery and here it is. Rich people are the only ones who will not suffer. All others from the poor to the middle class, black, white and hispanic are going to suffer for this in the long-term when their employment rights are eroded and the nations children's average test scores go backwards and social services are overwhelmed.

AA's its time to stand up for your rights now. you don't need your 'leaders'.
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clp)Very good post. If more American Blacks thought like you, we would stand up for ourselves a little bit more. I never thought about Jesse like that (don't get me wrong I don't like the guy), but that could be true about Jesse AND Al 'Press and Curl' Sharpton.
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