Kunjufu,

I used to think along that same line, thinking that Asians and other well known " unified" families. Then one day I began to think" There is no such thing as perfect socities" That is when I began thinking that if our society isn't perfect , then their cannot be perfect as well.The problem with the" Asian Unity" is that we by into the stereotypes of it without loking through the whole thing. The main reason that I think that Asian Unity is popular is because, some White people made it that way. Many White people think this because they always bring up the common points between the South Indian culture and the White culture: Family unity, educated, nearest to them in physical appearance, income. This is what some White people boast about in them and according to some, Asians are considered to be " honorary White people"( Some Asians resent people saying that, which I cannot blame them, they should be able to be respected as they are) and this is why we hear so much of it.

There is nothing with with cultural and familial unity if it is for the right reasons. Too often in communities like their's the idea of this kind of unity is often forced. " It's like you-better-be-this-or-else" kind of thinking. Some of the women are forced into arranged marriage, even as to go as far as being married to other kin,( No joke), I read an artcle about a " successful" South Indian family who had two daughters as doctors and another child, a son who made very high on his SAT's. When one of the reporters interviewed the family for the article and wanted to know about the family prosperity, one of the daughter said that he mother did not allow them to go to the prom because she wanted her daughter to study and to college. While I understand that her mother wanted her daughter to go to college, she shouldn't have to miss out on that and/or it should have been her daughter's decision on whether she wanted to go and we must not also forget that, their cultural isn't as liberal as some other cultures. What we can get away with here in the states , in England in Canada , they can't in their homelands.

I'm not going brag and boast about the laws of my land or even say it's a great place to live, but if there is anything that I like about the US and there other countries that I have mentioned is that you get to see a person for who they are--real attitudes and real thinking. I don't know how them boy were raised( Though I predict that strong indian traditions were passed to them), but when they killed those two guys, it really tell you who they really are as people. They were themselves. That is problem that with the praise for it, we only see one side of the story and noth the other half of it.

@All was not around when the thread was started. But anyone who thinks this issue has shattered any preconceived notions of Asian unity is really and seriously misinformed.

There has never been any unity amongst these people other than a joint dislike for black people. They have been killing each other and women in particlar like animals for centuries and why I as an African from the Caribbean look down on them as less than dogs..Nevermind being uncivilised.

I am proud that we don't care who or how certain women can behave for any man to think we will not only culturally support their bestial murder of a woman and another families daughters, but other males will join in such violence. It makes me look down on them for what they are to know ifI have a beef with my wife and went and told my brothers and cousins not only that I want to kill her, butneed their helpthey will look at me as if I am completely cracked out and off my head. As men they will not accept that kind of discussion and without a doubt will do something about it one way or another.

My brother in law or any man married to one of our girls would dare think he could even think about that shit and not put his entire blood line and existence of his clan at risk. No proud to be an African from the Caribbean or AFrican period when you see these animals loose amongst us..About honour you need to be men or stature to know honour about men ganging up to murder and rape people's children...Honour killing my arse.

They are always killing each other and women and daughters in particular. Look how they found the bodies of a family eg woman as usual the other day and the husband's car left at the air port....

I worked on a case which took place in Luton when I worked for the police of this poor Indian girl who the father got his brothers and sons to murder and rape the girl and literally chopped the body up. About honour. Sounds like the Sicillian mafia who could not even spell the word honour never mind comply with it selling each other out and killing their most loyal solidiers and life long family friends for money and power...

Makes me sick..about honour.....

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