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06-11-06, 09:17 PM
I accept that he is guilty and that he committed crimes against humanity, so my question is simply should he be hanged by the neck as punishment or it is hypocracy for the WEST to sanction the death of this leader, in comparison to their relative silence on the Atrocities of other dictators past and present!!?
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06-11-06, 09:40 PM
Actually, if not for the Iraqis, his death should serve as a warning tothe West's African croonies....."when they are done with you, Sadam's fate might be yours...next time"
But we all know how most Africans suffer from short term memory syndrome so all this execution will just fly over their heads.....or they might actually grow even more fearfull of the West and do whatever they are told to do as good slaves......
As to wheither he should die or not, I think hanging is too human....the Nazy's system of "garoting" whilst i tuck into a juicy steak would be the perfect ending
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06-11-06, 09:58 PM
Mez: you're right to make the obvious link to unpopular African regimes as being NEXT in the firing line.....The only good thing to come out of the Iraq debarcle is the fact that the Neo con's will be less likely to persaude people to go to war on such flimsy excuses next time.... otherwise I'm sure places like Sudan and Zimbabwe would have been next on the agenda..
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06-11-06, 10:11 PM
Yeah he should hang if Bush is swinging right next to him,otherwise I don't see the point.confused3
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06-11-06, 10:25 PM
The whole trial was a farce, they knew if they brought him to a proper international court all kinds of people(maybe rumsfeld)like all those companies that sold him weapons when he was killing iranians would have been implicated.Top lawyers would have easily seen all the flaws in the case if it was in an proper international court.Everyone knows those judges had scripts froms washington which told them exactly what to say and do.If we are to believe that he was on trial because he killed kurds and shias, again we go back to the question what about the shias he killed in iran? or perhaps we can get an explanation why the U.S ally Turkey is conviently ignored for it's crimes against kurds?This type of trial hasn't beenused since the nurenberg trials and today to my opinion saddam was on trial because he launched missiles against TelAviv if not than i have to believe that the U.S.Aand its allies actually care about iraqi civilians..........
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06-11-06, 10:49 PM
Nah it is not a western death sentence. In the states, they will prep the electric chair or give you a lethal dose of toxins.
Hanging has to be an Iraqi thing.
Saddam got in bed with the devil, so he had to know that sooner or later he was going to be screwed......
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07-11-06, 11:07 AM
Iraq Baathists ban 'to be eased'
A senior Iraqi official has said plans have been drawn up to allow former members of Saddam Hussein's Baath Party to return to government jobs.
Supreme National Council for De-Baathification head Ali al-Lamy said the plans could mean the reinstatement of more than a million ex-activists
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6123182.stm
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07-11-06, 02:13 PM
I don't believe any man or woman has the right to kill another human being, by doing so they (the executioner) are as guilty as he/she who commited the crime. I believe he should be imprisoned in solitary confinement until hedies of natural causes.
If they kill him I am conviced thatviolence around the world will esculate! I also believe that god will forgive himof all his sins simply because he was killed as a result of them.
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07-11-06, 02:25 PM
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I accept that he is guilty and that he committed crimes against humanity, so my question is simply should he be hanged by the neck as punishment or it is hypocracy for the WEST to sanction the death of this leader, in comparison to their relative silence on the Atrocities of other dictators past and present!!?
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I've always found it difficult to separate my feelings for a particular criminal (i.e. if someone had harmed a family member or close friend, could I be all philosophical about the situation? Doubt it), from the bigger question of HOW DO I REALLY STAND ON THE DEATH PENALTY?
Whereas that person should not have taken a life, could I sit on a jury, and then take that person's life. I am supposed to know better. They are either insane, temporarily insane, criminally insane, or plain just do not share my values and sense of conscious.
In this case.....a pathetic,clearly mentally derranged old man found cowering in a hole in disgrace,who still thinks he rules a country. I say, lock him up, throw away the key and let him live it out eating his doritos.
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07-11-06, 03:22 PM
I didn't think it would be so, but my feelings are mixed.
If he had come to this fate in the natural course of events and his fellow countrymen weren't coerced, I would say "so be it".
The fact that his trial is on the grounds of one of the greatest hypocrisies going, I am not so pleased. Bush's family was not the least of those who profited from Saddam's exploits in the past... especially with US policy hedging bets and switching support in the Iran v Iraq war.
Bush should be made to kill him personally.
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07-11-06, 03:27 PM
If Sadaam hangs,well what about the Pinochets,the Bothas,the De Klerks et al of this world??
Supposedly they are going to hang Sadaams brother right next to him.
I don't think the death sentence is a fait accompli though,I think it will probably becommuted to alife sentence, as a public relations exercise.
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07-11-06, 04:04 PM
The whole trial was a farce, they knew if they brought him to a proper international court all kinds of people (maybe rumsfeld) like all those companies that sold him weapons when he was killing iranians would have been implicated.Top lawyers would have easily seen all the flaws in the case if it was in an proper international court. Everyone knows those judges had scripts froms washington which told them exactly what to say and do.If we are to believe that he was on trial because he killed kurds and shias, again we go back to the question what about the shias he killed in iran? or perhaps we can get an explanation why the U.S ally Turkey is conviently ignored for it's crimes against kurds?This type of trial hasn't beenused since the nurenberg trials and today to my opinion saddam was on trial because he launched missiles against TelAviv if not than i have to believe that the U.S.Aand its allies actually care about iraqi civilians..........
Exactly, what about the rest of them. For some reason I don't think Sharon is going to be arrested for crimes against humanity any time soon or Bush and his cronies or Tony Blair for embargoing Zimbabwe and not going through the UN to do it whilst still shipping weapons out there.
Its all for show. Probably one of his look alikes to boot. Bet they air his hanging as well just to show how morally superior the west is.
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