Im a Pan Arican youth and I have realised one thing, especially common amongst the old "Pan African" crew. Pan Africans are too busy reading books and arguing with eachother. Will there ever be any ACTION taken by Pan Africans:

Will there ever be an African state led by a Pan African Party?

And a whole lot of issues about Pan Africanism, its not even a threat to the headquaters in the western states. Will pan Africans ever wisen up?

This should be interesting.....

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Well, fellowcommrades, I beleive that the Pan African Movement is lacking because there is no leader in the Pan Africanist structure. What I mean Is the communists had the likes of mao, Lumumba and Marxists.No action will ever be taken if no one commands the masses to take action. We need a selfless leader who can take charge.

N.B: To take action is to reach out to the masses, to mobilise them, toopen their minds. Mao Tse Tung could'nt have said it better when he said "We face neither east nor west, we face forward"!

"Rebels to Revolutionaries", ever heard of that? The Pan African Movement at large isn't really reaching out to the people, the youths. People who should be concerned about it don't even know about it, if "they do" they have the wrong conception about it, some even think its afrocentricity or traditionalism . LOL. Fellow brethren, Lumumba started of as a beer salesman but look at how he managed to affect and influence peoples lives in the small Congo, he became as many say, the Prince of Pan Africanism, the first born son of Africa! Later on to be executed shouting out long live Congo ... long live Africa! wow.


Pan Africanism will never go anywhere and "Pan Africanists" will never take action untill there is a leader to lead, it does'nt take much but courage, selflesness, determination. It getsme thinking about Steven Biko,Patrice Lumumba,Malcolm X, Josiah Tongogara.


Pan Africans are still too comfortable and still too afraid, and still too selfish to live and ultimately die for the cause, the people, to die for the unborn youths, to be men who are masters of their own destiny.


comrades, do you really beleive we are headed forward?


Fellow brethren, hear me out. This is the voice of the youths. Teach me my elders!

Cut off the head of a lion and the body dies. Cut off the head of a hydra and another rises to take it's place.

This is what I think of this lemming mentality we have gotten so used to. "Run behin' leader an we go be good".

Ras, I hear that so often on BNV: Lemming mentality...we don't need a leader...blah blah blah.

Revolutions don't just happen
People need to be synchronised
People need to be aligned and motivated
Somebody or a group of people needs to synch, align and motivate the people

Why is that so hard for people to understand. The majority of human beings are not of warrior stock. 99% of human beings are followers. Haven't you seen the experiments where people sit in a room with smoke coming through the door. No one moves because nobody else is moving. It takes that one person with a unique leadership personality to get up and tell the rest of the people to evacuate because there is a fire. This is a scientific experiment which proves that most people are followers. This is fact. Fact. Fact. Fact. Believe it.

So how is something of the magnitude and yet ambiguity of African Liberation going to happen without some leadership? Somebody please tell me....

Unless you can show me some hisorical evidence of when people achieved anything without leadership?

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You'd think thatwould be common knowledge really. Or common sense.

It's kinda of sad really. They're people out there that can encourage others to blow themselves up for a cause, which from where I'm sitting seems quite apetty one, but they can do it anyway. Something about these radicals inspires them, and gets them to believe that their cause is worthy of sacrifice.

Pan-Africanism isn't really doing that, it generally has the opposite effect on people actually looking at things. Why?Because most of the Pan-Africanistleaderships qualites are lacking if notnon-existent.

For starters it helps if you're are likable and have charisma.

stick-upKid wrote: First of all you should look up what happened in the variations of that experiment that were done after the initial experiment. Secondly you should really read the rest of my post. Lemmings will kill themselves following the lemming at the front. How about if there were many leaders. One dies and the rest still have someone to follow.

Tell me a time in history where some caucasian hasn't killed off one of our leaders and the movement disbands thereafter. It always happens so think about what I said about the hydra rather than assuming that I do not understand that we need leadership.

Whenever I have referred to a lemming mentality i have made sure to say that we do not need a singular leader. please allow the emboldened to sink in.

Ras, you're being vague now.

Do you think the movement needs leader(s)? Simple question.

stick-upKid wrote:
And there is a very simple answer in my posts which is not at all vague but I will spell it out seeing as it seems to be necessary.

There needs to be leaders. People need to understand that it is not something that is just going to solve itself once we get a singular male or female to lead us. We need to understand that there will be those of us who do not agree with a singular leader and we need to understand that there are those of us who will use a singular leader as an excuse not to do the necesary work themselves.

What we have now is quite ideal. We have many organisations which all deal separately with specific issues in our communities and they do it well however because between them there is not enough collaboration and because many of the people who complain that we need a leader (not attacking anyone specifically) do not attend events or join any of these organisations, we do not move forward as fast as we would like as a people.

What we need is simply for some more collaboration between our organisations on issues which their ideological doctrines meet such as education and we need more people joining these organisations if only to help out at events or to make sure they learn a serious Pan African perspective which can be passed on to those around them, eliminating the negative perspective of radicalism which Pan Africanists have been painted with.

We need to learn that we have leaders and many of them who help our people in their own ways but we do not have many followers, following these leaders in a way that gives them any power.

A singular leader is an outdated and insufficient practice which will inevitably lead to infighting and dispersion once that leader is no longer available to lead which is something that I thought everyone could see throughout history repeating itself like a broken record.

I hope that clears up where I am coming from and I hope that it doesn't seem at all vague.

MauMau Shabbaz wrote:
@Shabazz

Greetings

Let's look at the African Mass. Lets look at the strategic problems in finding a leader who can unite Africans who consider themselves:

• • African
  • Arab
  • Asiatic
  • Muslim
  • Christian
  • Buddhists
  • Capitalists
  • Socialist
  • Jewish
  • Selfish
  • Caribbean
  • American
  • British
  • French
  • Nigerian
  • Kenyan
  • White
  • Mixed with something
  • World Citizen
  • Black
  • Nationalists
  • Micro-nationalists
  • Pan Africanist
  • Hetrosexual
  • Homosexuals
  • Transexuals

And

• • Vegetarians

Some of the categories above,show usthe complexity of our struggle when the issue of leadership, and one leadership in particular is raised. They also show the need for intellectual/ideological struggle and development amongst our people which is a vital part of our fight.





Many Africans have chosen to work in smaller groups, networking with other Africans towards strategic goals and objectives.



Historically asRas Rubenhasalready stated, lone great and effectiveleaders get taken out; which sets back our progress. Thatkind of leadership is not the way forward for us as a people.