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12-02-07, 10:28 PM
Are the Jews way out of line doing this, or is it appropriate given MLK actually wrote these things about Israel?
What do you think of MLK's position on Israel? Was it substantial, or is it coonery indicative of amentally-enslaved Christian "Negro"?
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15-02-07, 10:31 AM
I don't know if MLK actually visited Israel, but the Zionists didn't transform a "desert" into an oasis.All they did was kick the Palestinians of the fertile land and dumped them in the deserts and refugee camps.What where his views on the treatement of the Palestinians Christians?Did he know that the Zionist state was firstly planned to be somewhere in Africa?
As for Zionism meaning anti semtism that is clearly a childish and misleading thing to say. What about the many anti Zionist Jews who campaign against the Israeli state? Zionism is a racist/religious/social darwinist theory, which states that any Jew living anywhere in the world has the right to go and live in Palestine at the expense of a Palestinian. So if you are a Falasha Jew from Ethiopia you can go back to your homeland which you haven't been to for 5000 years.One can really see the absurdity of this claim.It's like saying Americans can go and kick all the people put of Europe because they used to live their once upon a time.
the Jewish state’s founding father and its first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, who told the president of the World Jewish Congress, Nahum Goldmann: “If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: We have taken their country. We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: We have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?�
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What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?" Zbigniew Kazimierz Brzezinski: United States National Secu
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27-02-07, 08:41 PM
Well there you have it, never liked MLK in the first place.Could've kicked some ass buthe didn'the only brought InI into the system and left our culture behind... as he was supposed to.
Probably thejews whopropped him up in the first place.
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27-02-07, 09:55 PM
Its none of the above. Its well known that Jews and AA's formed an alliance together that lasted for decades andmuch was accomplished. The Jew left the legacy of the NAACP and other powerful institutions that helped blacks alot. There was a string of events that ended the coalition which I wont go through but MLK was a strong supporterof the Jewish cause like most Afro-Americans/Carribeans were at the time.
The problem with todays Jew is theydont realize the situation goingon in Israel and America are two different organisms.The relationship wasbased on our common history, not to create apartied. MLK would not be in support of them if he was alive today.
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27-02-07, 10:02 PM
Just been reading a book on Garvey, and he also supported Zionism and the right of the Jews to return home. He obviously advocated a similiar policy for non-african blacks to return to the motherland.
Although I don't like the Israelis, you got to respect the way they been dreaming for over a thousand years to return back to the place where they once lived, and then they finally do it. They have been dreaming of returning back to Israel since the Romans kicked them out, and they never let that dream die, passing it on to their children and granchildren. That is what I call dedication. Thats probably why they fight so hard. You ain't gonna give something up easily you been waiting for over a thousand years for.
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27-02-07, 11:00 PM
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Wasn't Garvey accused of antisemitism?
Check this website
http://www.jtf.org/america/america.b...im.history.htm
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28-02-07, 11:10 AM
Yeah, wouldn't surprise me he was a very controversial character, as he also worked closely with the KKK, and said that what he wanted was a black version of the KKK and a pure black race.
and he supported Hitler and Mussolini, as he said that fascism and nationalism were good things.
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28-02-07, 01:30 PM
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Yeah, wouldn't surprise me he was a very controversial character, as he also worked closely with the KKK, and said that what he wanted was a black version of the KKK and a pure black race.
and he supported Hitler and Mussolini, as he said that fascism and nationalism were good things.
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This Garvey guy sounds like a right charmer
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28-02-07, 02:19 PM
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Is that website supposed to be serious. I have never heard such one sided biased nonsense in my life and it wouldn't hurt you all to pick up a copy of the philosophies and opinions of Marcus Garvey. There wasn't a leader in any developing country who didn't revere this man and his work. You should try reading his work and coming to your own conclusion rather than looking to sources which are blatently biased and frankly insulting to his legacy.
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28-02-07, 02:21 PM
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Yeah, wouldn't surprise me he was a very controversial character, as he also worked closely with the KKK, and said that what he wanted was a black version of the KKK and a pure black race.
and he supported Hitler and Mussolini, as he said that fascism and nationalism were good things.
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did you ever think about looking at why he said those things?
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28-02-07, 03:01 PM
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Just been reading a book on Garvey, and he also supported Zionism and the right of the Jews to return home. He obviously advocated a similiar policy for non-african blacks to return to the motherland.
Although I don't like the Israelis, you got to respect the way they been dreaming for over a thousand years to return back to the place where they once lived, and then they finally do it. They have been dreaming of returning back to Israel since the Romans kicked them out, and they never let that dream die, passing it on to their children and granchildren. That is what I call dedication. Thats probably why they fight so hard. You ain't gonna give something up easily you been waiting for over a thousand years for.
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And dont forget that Garvey also advocated CAPITALISM...but i wouldnt judge him on that but rather will look at the positive impact he had
On Israel right to return .... well, its a different ball game
maybe you should start by reading this:
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