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29-03-07, 05:11 PM
@ Apademak... THAT'S where it's at.
He set the precedent and we need to take it up. See, the more we speak the less convenient it is to dismiss his actions as a solitary and delusional pursuit. (Heck, they'll spin it anyways)
Yes, we are being monitored and yes, we should be making our solidarity and presence felt. Where wetend to fail is not using this type of momentum!
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29-03-07, 05:11 PM
@ Apademak... THAT'S where it's at.
He set the precedent and we need to take it up. See, the more we speak the less convenient it is to dismiss his actions as a solitary and delusional pursuit. (Heck, they'll spin it anyways)
Yes, we are being monitored and yes, we should be making our solidarity and presence felt. Where wetend to fail is not using this type of momentum!
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29-03-07, 05:47 PM
Yeah listened to some of the radio show and have to big up Henry Bonsu. Someone mentioned him being a decent bloke which is true. Had a little interaction with him when he used to be on the panel of the Wright Stuff when it used to be filmed in the MTV studios down in Camden but on this day, Henry was protecting his friend.
But what he said about the look on Toyins face is what hit home again. He said he was actually concerned about his mental health, probably thought he'd lost the plot or drugged up to pull off the stunt but no, now see and imagine what actually being there done to Toyins spirit, utterly vile and sickening.
If Blairs and the Queens face's where one joke, I got an even bigger laugh from the African Christians. Marcus said man won't know himself until his back is against the wall...well when Toyin addressed them it's like some of them never know whether they were African or Christian again
But yeah, like african_woman said, do not understimate the magnitude of what Toyin has done. Blair thought he'd actully pulled it off, that he'd got away with it, his face looked like he'd been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I saw right into his soul and all I saw was a thief. On the radio interview Toyin said he looked at Blair and the Queen and all he saw were these little people, this is precisely what the world saw and why his action was monumental. If you never knew the meaning of scarifice before this then better know it now!
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29-03-07, 05:47 PM
Yeah listened to some of the radio show and have to big up Henry Bonsu. Someone mentioned him being a decent bloke which is true. Had a little interaction with him when he used to be on the panel of the Wright Stuff when it used to be filmed in the MTV studios down in Camden but on this day, Henry was protecting his friend.
But what he said about the look on Toyins face is what hit home again. He said he was actually concerned about his mental health, probably thought he'd lost the plot or drugged up to pull off the stunt but no, now see and imagine what actually being there done to Toyins spirit, utterly vile and sickening.
If Blairs and the Queens face's where one joke, I got an even bigger laugh from the African Christians. Marcus said man won't know himself until his back is against the wall...well when Toyin addressed them it's like some of them never know whether they were African or Christian again
But yeah, like african_woman said, do not understimate the magnitude of what Toyin has done. Blair thought he'd actully pulled it off, that he'd got away with it, his face looked like he'd been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I saw right into his soul and all I saw was a thief. On the radio interview Toyin said he looked at Blair and the Queen and all he saw were these little people, this is precisely what the world saw and why his action was monumental. If you never knew the meaning of scarifice before this then better know it now!
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29-03-07, 06:32 PM
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Link to article on blackbritain.co.uk:
http://www.blackbritain.co.uk/news/details.aspx?i=2411&c=africa&h=Blair's+sla ve+speech+stirs+angry+reactions+in+Ghana
Ghanians reaction to Tony B-LIARS "statement of regret" speech. Echoes all of what we have been saying here and the very reason Toyin was moved to do what he did. Ghanians werent falling for the insults either!
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29-03-07, 06:55 PM
Saw right through this as well
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29-03-07, 07:30 PM
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I was listening to Ian Wright on the drive time show on talk sport yesterday and I have to say he let us down big time.
He was asked by his co host for an opinion on the events being discussed above and he bottled it.
I agree with him that no apology is going to change things but it also gave him an opportunity to say why reparations might be worth considering.
I love Ian Wright to the bone so I won't be dissing him on here but in view of the fact he has publically said that racism is preventing ex black professionals from becoming managers in the game he could have tied it in with the reparations argument.
I for one at the mo won't be bigging up Toyin simply because he may have done more harm than good to the cause. (Reparations)
Nonetheless I will say he was brave beyond doubt!!!
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29-03-07, 11:25 PM
Watching Question time - vex! Shouting at the TV. Rehashing of the same old nonsense. Cant even be bothered to get in to it right now. GRRRRRRR
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29-03-07, 11:28 PM
Can someone give me a brief summary unfortunately i missed it.......
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29-03-07, 11:29 PM
I saw that the only people that were talking sense wasYvonne Thompson and the ginger haired lady. Some people just do not get how slavery has affected black people. They think that because it was abolished that was it that it didn't leave behind a legacy but they have no idea.
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29-03-07, 11:39 PM
I noticed how when Yvonne Thompson stood her ground and said that there should be an apology and some sort of reparation for the slave trade no one applauded but when some cretinous fool in the audience started makingmoronic comparisons with the scandinavians 'enslaving' the English eons agothere was rapturous applause....and they wonder why 'Black British' people are ambivalent about being labelled as such.
In fact, Yvonne Thompson was one of the few pannelists whoprovided consistently intelligentopinions for all the topics discussed on the show. If she had told them that the government and/or monarchy had alreaday set a precendent by apologising to various disenfranchised groupsI'm sure that would have shut them up good and proper.
"Better than the cannon, it (colonialism) makes conquest permament. The cannon compels the body, the school bewitches the soul"... Cheikh Hamidou Kane.
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