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I think its unfair that some posters are saying that if you object to to the mega-mosque then you must support the BNP. Its the same as when George Bush said that 'your either with us or against us' in the war on terror. Neither assumption is true. I don't agree with a mega-Mosque bottom line. Can some explain why the UK needs this? and no I don't wan to hear anything about how non-Muslims will be welcomed in to learn about Islam because no non-Muslims apart from undercover M15 and journalists are actually going to do that. I and everyone I knowhas zerointerest inspending our free time learning about any religion. We don't need anymore churches, mosques or religious places. With space at a premium in London, I'm sure better things can be found to be built on the site.

In addition whetheryou like it or not, Britain is a white Chistian country and they are in the majority. It would be ridiculous for the UK to have a mega-Mosque especially as you know that no majority non-white Muslim country would ever build a mega-Church. I bet half the people here who are supporting it would feel uneasy if it was announced that theAmerica's largestmega-Mosque was going to built in Jamaica or Barbados. I honestly can't see the point in it, if someone can explain why it should bebuilt other than'we should agree with it because theBNP disagree with it' I want to hear it.
You still havent argue why you object this mosque






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The only problem here is, Majority of Muslims do not agree with the Qadianis and of course majority are against that mosque so that says it all...Now the way i see it if BNP have come on board then fair enough...as a Muslim i see Kadianis and BNP as same but the bottom line i am not infavour of that Masjid by all means

Today i attended salat Jumma (friday prayers) in a council hall and no one complained that its not appropriate to pray there. I will not fall in this Kadiani trap of having a massive masjidwhile in truth they distortalmost every word inthe Qur'an
Miles you're going to have to break this issue down for me..is there a division in how some people worship Islam in London?




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not usre if i got you right but ido not belong to the nation or 5% folks

I am anSunni who fllows much of Imam Malik and Shafii...that doesnt mean i dont value Hanbali or Hanafi Jurisprudence schools


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...because Religion causes enough shit without a mega-mosque being built. It will just attract trouble for people inthe area of which I'm one. I do not believe in organised religion and whether you like it or not this is a majorityanglo-christian country. I have no problem with the majority saying theydon't like it because I'd bet my bottom dollar that ifone was being built in Jamaica many of us would beasking why a mega-building is being built for aminor religion in the country.

There's no place for a mega-mosque in London just like there's no place for a mega-Church in Saudi Arabia.I doubt a Christian would ever even jokingly suggest the Arabs build a mega-Church in Saudi because it will never happen and nobody would expect it to. Everything was better in the 90s when peoplebasically kept their religion to themselves, now I can't seem to move without hearing about Islam. Theres also a mosque near me and every non-muslim is made to feel pretty much unwelcome in the neighbourhood by the pakistani'son fridays at lunchtime when theyhold their biggest prayer. Anyway why do the mosques all have to be in East London?

Also if a religious place did have to be built on the Olympic site, then I think less people would have a problem if it was somehow designed to accomdate all faiths, why only Islam, are there onlyMuslims in East London?

Please explain why East London needs a mega-mosque without saying that it we need it because the BNP hate it.
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You still havent said why you object tthe proposed mosque in East London




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I think its unfair that some posters are saying that if you object to to the mega-mosque then you must support the BNP. Its the same as when George Bush said that 'your either with us or against us' in the war on terror. Neither assumption is true. I don't agree with a mega-Mosque bottom line. Can some explain why the UK needs this? and no I don't wan to hear anything about how non-Muslims will be welcomed in to learn about Islam because no non-Muslims apart from undercover M15 and journalists are actually going to do that. I and everyone I knowhas zerointerest inspending our free time learning about any religion. We don't need anymore churches, mosques or religious places. With space at a premium in London, I'm sure better things can be found to be built on the site.
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Well, yes better things could be built in your opinion. But why isn't it. Are you aware that the mosque is finances by the muslims themselves and not you or anybody else. If you don't want it buy and prohibit it. If the muslims want to buil a giant lion statue or craphouse etc, then they can do that as well. Actually quite a few non-muslism go to mosques to learn about islam, as matter of facts many do. Just because your Christian buddies don't want to doesn't mean others don't.

In addition whetheryou like it or not, Britain is a white Chistian country and they are in the majority. It would be ridiculous for the UK to have a mega-Mosque especially as you know that no majority non-white Muslim country would ever build a mega-Church. I bet half the people here who are supporting it would feel uneasy if it was announced that theAmerica's largestmega-Mosque was going to built in Jamaica or Barbados. I honestly can't see the point in it, if someone can explain why it should bebuilt other than'we should agree with it because theBNP disagree with it' I want to hear it.
Actually I know a number of majority muslim countries where one could build a mega church in. And we should not judge UK by the standards of say SAudi Arabia, since once is a democracy (wiht all that follows) and the other is dictatorship. Nuff said



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... There's no place for a mega-mosque in London just like there's no place for a mega-Church in Saudi Arabia.I doubt a Christian would ever even jokingly suggest the Arabs build a mega-Church in Saudi because it will never happen and nobody would expect it to. Everything was better in the 90s when peoplebasically kept their religion to themselves, now I can't seem to move without hearing about Islam. Theres also a mosque near me and every non-muslim is made to feel pretty much unwelcome in the neighbourhood by the P*kistani'son fridays at lunchtime when theyhold their biggest prayer. Anyway why do the mosques all have to be in East London?

Also if a religious place did have to be built on the Olympic site, then I think less people would have a problem if it was somehow designed to accomdate all faiths, why only Islam, are there onlyMuslims in East London?
There are no churches built in Saudi Arabia for the same reason that one cannot build Mosques in the Vatican City.But this probably challenges what your saying;



[size=Work has begun on the construction of Qatar's first purpose-built church in the desert outside Doha, the country's capital.][/size]

Although the country's native inhabitants are entirely Muslim - and are prohibited by law from converting to another faith - the new Catholic church will cater to the large number of Christian migrants who have come to the Arabia Gulf state in search of work.



Roman Catholics from all over the Arabian Peninsula - many of them migrant workers - are helping to pay for the $15m building, which is scheduled to open at the end of the year.

Overseeing the church is Paul Hinder, the Catholic Church's Bishop of Arabia. A Christian in the heart of the Muslim world, his diocese is the entire Arabian peninsular, encompassing six countries.

He oversees churches in Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen and even in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam where Christianity is practiced behind closed doors.

Speaking about the Christian communities in Saudi Arabia, he said: "It's not an open church. Privately the Christians may gather in their houses in a very discreet manner."

"Of course it's not easy to be a bishop here [in the Gulf]," he said. "But at least regarding the church life it is full of vitality."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/32CC5571-64DA-45AA-BDE5-A0CA68CD4616.htm






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Guardian Update:

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homea...081071,00.html
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There is one set of people that I don't mess with and thats the Muslim asians/arabs...I think they should have this mosque built, who is it harming? If you look at religion today, white British people are not attending church as they used to, however the Asians who are faithful to their religion do.

The BNP needs to be more concerned with asking Tony Blair why the poverty gap is widening for working/under class whites.


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The Times reports that instead of the government combating this evident Islamophobia, it has instead issued a statement shifting responsibility onto the local council.

It is my opinion that since the government ends it response by recommending that “all involved should ensure that discussions are conducted in a manner that respects the views of all sections of our communities and in a way that does not raise tensions in local areas�, then it should not be recognising a petition that condemns the creation of a Mega Mosque as something that “will only cause terrible violence and suffering�. On this basis the government’s hypocritical perspective is condoning the increasing Islamophobia.

We Must fight this and not be dictated to by the far right.

Accordingly, it is the duty of evey British citizen to sign the petition to BUILD the ‘Mega Mosque’ because “it would show how tolerant we are of other religions to build a large Mosque for people to worship at. Those who say that it would incite violence give not only Christians, but a large part of England, a bad name. So I urge you to sign this petition, whatever your religion, as long as you believe in tolerance.�

Sign the petition to build the ‘Mega Mosque’.


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jamal786 - it is completely inadequate to decide on your political positions simply by saying "if they are for it then we are against it, and vivce versa". This means that the people you say that you oppose (a small nationalist party) are effectively deciding your policy. What about if the BNP say they oppose the growth of the giant supermarket chains (which they do)? Would you start campaigning for Tesco and Sainsbury? Think for yourself.

The organisations behind this mosque are supremacists. They want to dwarf other religions, not co-exist. This is a show of power in my opinion - plain and simple.
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