Toddler fight family spared jail



Carole Olver told police she was "toughening up" the children

A mother who goaded her two toddlers to fight each other on video camera has received a 12-month suspended sentence, along with her mother and two sisters.


Zara Olver, 21, her 48-year-old mother Carole, and sisters Serenza Olver, 29, and Danielle Olver, 19, all admitted child cruelty at Plymouth Crown Court.
In the footage, a boy in a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting his sister back after she struck him.


The women laughed as the children hit each other with brushes and magazines.
But the footage was found by chance by the toddlers' father, on leave from the army, and he told social services.

Anyone watching this footage... would have been sickened and saddened

Det Sgt Barry Walters
The boy, aged two, is seen crying after being punched in the face by his three-year-old sister and is told by one of the four women in the room "not to be a wimp or a faggot" and to hit the girl back.


The court heard that, when interviewed by police, Carole Olver said: "I didn't see any harm in toughening them up - I done the same with my own children."
Zara Olver pleaded guilty to causing or procuring the children to be ill treated in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering or injury.



The women were told they posed no risk to societyHer mother and sisters pleaded guilty to jointly inciting the ill treatment of children.


Judge Francis Gilbert gave all four women, from North Prospect in Plymouth, a one-year suspended sentence, saying they posed no risk to the public.
He also ordered the four to do 100 hours of unpaid work and banned them from working with children. The children, who cannot be named for legal reasons, are in the care of the parents of their father.


'Dog fight'
The case came to court after the father returned from a posting in Iraq and found the images on a video camera. He reported the matter to social services in Plymouth who alerted the police's child protection unit.

If there was an offence that deserved even 12 months in prison this was it

Michelle Elliott, Kidscape
Prosecutor David Gittins told the court that the father described the footage to police as being "like a dog fight". "He was reduced to tears," Mr Gittins said.
"What he saw was not two children playing, but an eight-minute film of them being forced to fight."


Speaking after the case, investigating officer Det Sgt Barry Walters said: "Anyone watching this footage showing grown adults encouraging very young children committing unnatural acts would have been sickened and saddened.
"We have been in touch with child protection teams across the country and to my knowledge this is the first time that something like this has ever gone to court."


Michelle Elliott, director of children's charity Kidscape, said: "Quite frankly if there was an offence that deserved even 12 months in prison this was it.
"What they've done is send a message that this isn't a very serious thing and they've walked free. I think most people are outraged by that."




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BTW as an aside.....the question/points about these CHAV's

How in the hell do you turn up to court looking like THAT!!!?(see below), the Judge should have thrown them in jail for the Fashion faux par alone.....

BUT the woman in red, WTF....showing off your belly when yu have figure is one thing, showing off your skin, when yu luk like a giraffe hit sideways by a bus nuh mek sense.....ROTF...

However asI watched the news todaythe one idiot gyal in the black & white mess (far right in picture) walks out of court shouting to reporters....

' i'aint saying no comment or nothing'

LMAO what a stupid friggin plonker..and people want to say that we're STUPID!!??Those reporters must have dead wid laff.....

What a sick bunch of bitches. Glad the dad got custody. Better hope all access is supervisedonly.

Why on earth would you "toughen up" a frikkin two year old?

It's white mothers and fathers who are to blame and it's time the 'white' community and their leaders spoke up agains this sort of thing!

Hey Tony, don't you agree?

Respect

well the fact that they are chavs says it all dosnt it. im mean look at them. did you expect ppl like that to raise children well?

but saying that chavs are still good they service lonly blackmen. especially the blk men straight outta prison and lowlife brothers.

These women were taking things to a whole new level.

My niece and nephew have always fought since the age of about 5/2. I don't like to see them fight and certainly would never encourage them to start fighting. They are not 5/2 any more just to clear that up.
My niece is the older one and at times when my nephew has been in a fight with his sister a few times i have felt like i wanted him to stand his ground.

My sister used to do the same with me she is a good few years older than me and always used to assert her authority and i would always lose out so i know how it feels to be the in that situation.

These women though by the sounds of it were trying to set fights up and were encouraging it.

There seems to be quite a bit of trial by video or telephone evidence these days and everybody seems to be passing judgement on what they think is right or wrong in what happens in peoples private lives. The Alec Baldwin case is just one case that comes to mind.

the judge gave these .....women, suspended sentences, you knnnooowww if they were black their feet wouldn't touch the ground fe-dem going to jail...

mike pain wrote:
Not only that, but the whole world would be using that as evidence for how black women are unfit mothers. And off course, the black "community" would have to account for their behaviour.

Is that even a woman in the first picture?

alabamagirl wrote:
My thoughts exactly. At first I thought it was a picture of the father.

the soul machine wrote: