Originally Posted by Gmahogany777

I disagree with the premise that Hillary can't claim to have experience because she was wife to a President,or that she's claiming to have experience JUST because she was First Lady. First of all, much of her experience PREDATES her time in the White House. 2nd of all, There is no way you can compare her to traditional first ladies, ones that preceded her or the one who came after. While in the White House, her husband appointed her to take on certain projects like healthcare. That's why when it failed, SHE got the blame, not him. THroughout his 2 terms, there were people who were concerned about her being CO-PRESIDENT, because she was so active in policy and decision making and EVERYONE knew it.

Look. I have always liked much of what Miss Hilary stands for. But, her time was 8 years ago. Actually, it was 16 years ago. She would have been a much better president than Slick Willy. Too bad. She had her chance and she missed it. Now, is a new day and a new politics.

Plenty of people didn't like it, "I voted for him, not HER", was the prevailing attitude of many people, so this idea that she was just sitting around coming up with decor and dinner party ideas for the White House like traditioinal first ladies has no basis in reality. Her knowledge of policy and substance in these debates let's you know that. It's clear she's no lightweight in those matters. Obama does well to hang with her, truth be told. Now if you wanna say well the stuff she presided over failed, that argument can be made, but the argument of "she was JUST his wife", can't be made. It wasn't made when THEY were in office,lol, so it doesn't hold water now in revisionist history land,imo.

JFK appointed his brother Robert Kennedy attorney general. Robert Kennedy would not have been appointed to that position were it not for good ol nepotism. That's one of the reasons that people like J Edgar Hoover and LBJ hated his guts and never fully respected him. Does that mean that Robert Kennedy wasn't a REAL attorney general, who could claim experience in that role, when he later ran for president?(ask the Mafia types he made it his business to hound, or the people who dealt with him on a lot of the Civil Rights movement struggles, he seemed and felt like a real attorney general to them).

Originally Posted by abdurratln

It simply amazes me the extent some people will go to try to sell oaky doak. And that is what this knee jerk non-sense love affair with white women is: oaky-doak.

No more than it amazes me the extent to which some people will go to act out THEIR love afffair with Arab Crackers, and sell Black folks on the Arab apologististic "we must unite with white muslim's/Arabs no matter what " okey doke.......

I'm not in love with Hillary. I voted for Obama, (and stated that I would do so going back at least 2 months ago). I just dont' have to conjure up conspiracy theories and nonsense or lie on or demonise anyone to vote for who I chose to vote for,unlike some other people who shall remain nameless......



It did not start with Miss Hilary’s election to the Senate. The Democratic Leadership Council is and was a conservative conspiracy within the Dummy-crat Party. They are and were the heirs to the likes of George Wallace and Lester Maddox. This is why they have and had absolutely no hesitation about that the Sista Soljah affair. This is and was why Master Slick Willy did not hesitate to bomb Africa even though his target had absolutely nothing to do with terrorism. This is and was why the Master Slick Willy lied to the nation. This is what created the atmosphere that permitted the Bush Gang to come into office and do things similarly to what Master Slick Willy had set the precedence for; namely lie about Irag and bomb Africa with the illusion that Irag is not a part of Africa. Even if Irag is not a part of Africa, Sudan is most certainly is a part of Africa. Thus, we see the Bush Gang lying about genocide in Sudan.

The heirs to George Wallace and Lester Maddox were the REPUBLICAN PARTY all the Democrats that abandoned the Democratic party to vote for RONALD REAGAN/Bush #1/Bush #2. All of those Southern white people who started hating the Democratic party from 1964 on, when White Southern Democrat, LBJ pushed and bullied through Congress and signed all of that Civil RIghts legislation., because they felt that the party had abandoned them in favor of N*ggers.....Barry Goldwater, who was Reagan's inspiration concocted that strategy and it worked.

The bottom line is we should never ever tolerate a president who lies to the nation. Liar-in-Chief Master Slick Willy should have been kicked out of office.

All presidents lie to the nation. Get real. Slick Willie lied about getting his dick sucked,by someone other than his wife. That's hardly a betrayal of the public trust on par with lying about something that will get thousands of people killed, like the sociopath who followed him, did. Let's keep it grimy.
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Actually, many Republicans support Brother Barack. This is why he is winning. Hello! Wake up! Seem, the Dummy-crats are all mostly tied up with their non-sense about a woman president. Or, a gay president, etc. But, haven’t you noticed that there are record voting turn-out in every primary so far? Hello! These are people who have not been voting for the Dummy-crats. This is why the Republicans have been winning for so long even though they are the minority party, much smaller than the Dummy-crat party. Some are independents. In other words, they have not been voting. Or, when they do vote; they vote Republican because they, or should I say we are sick and tired of the Slick Willy brand of politics.

The Republicans have been winning because they were able, BEGINNING WITH REAGAN and continuing through Bush2, to attract white Southerners and White Northerners, and White Midwesteners , who would rather vote against their OWN economic interests than to see N*ggers have anything. That was Goldwater's strategy and it has worked. THere were record turnouts when Jesse Jackson ran in 84 and 88. His 84 campaign registered millions of new voters, which enabled the Democrats to win the Congress back, in 86(in the midst of the Reagan era). There are ALWAYS large numbers of people who don't vote in every election. I think the number is 50% of eligible voters or some ish. Many of those people don't and won't vote until someone comes along saying something that THEY like. That is not new or novel. Political strategists BANK on 50% of the electorate NOT voting,lol.

What we have here is a new Democratic Party. Brother Barack has created a new Party, a new coalition of voters. This coalition includes many who haven previously voted Republican and many, such as me, who consider themselves to be Independent. I voted in the Dummy-cartic primary for the first time in my life to fix that Slick Willy insanity. Thus, we are in a new era, an era in which things will not work the same way that they did before.

Previously voted for Reagan and the BUshes,TWICE, in some cases, but now supporting Obama, and that's supposed to be comforting?Ok.........


Too bad for YOU. See, the time has come when we will think new ideas. 16 long hard years of Slick Willy and “W” is enough. This country is in a stupid mess. The time has come when we must and will start fixing things, starting with an end to that stupid war in Irag. At the same time, we will make peace with the Palestinians. At the same time, we will start solving the depressive economic problems that aflict the African Nation in America, Latin America and in Africa. This is not Brother Barack’s official position and I do not speak for him and his people. But, the new atmosphere that has been created will allow people like me to have a voice in the future of the progress to be made by Africans.

This country didn't become a mess til AFTER Slick Willy, so I don't know why you're lumping his presidency in with W's, but ok....New ideas, my ass. You just think that your Arab apologist agenda will be better served with someone named Barack Hussein Obama in the White House. That's cool, just don't insult people's intelligence like it's about anything else, for you.

I have always liked much of what Miss Hilary stands for. But, her time was 8 years ago. Actually, it was 16 years ago. She would have been a much better president than Slick Willy. Too bad. She had her chance and she missed it. Now, is a new day and a new politics.

So you've always liked much of what she stands for, but now you have a problem with her........Interesting........Folks are getting brand new all over the place, it seems,lol.


Get over it.

Originally Posted by Gmahogany777

Originally Posted by impactplayer