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Come on now, African! He didn't just win, he steamrolled over Miss Hilary. He got 90% of the African vote. That is what I have been hoping for. With (0% of the African vote, I don't see Hilary winning in Texas or Ohio. By the time they get to Texas and Ohio, it is likely to be 95% African vote.

I've been stating the outcome of these contests the same way, irrespective of the margin of victory, and irrespective of who won. Furthermore, when the winner is FIRST projected,(which is when I am getting the results and posting them), the margin of victory is usually NOT known yet. They just feel they can PROJECT the winner based on info they got from exit polls. All of the hard numbers and margins come later, Sunshine....

Africans are stupid. We know a good thing when we see it. The only reason we were so slow getting it together is some of us were intimidated by the lies the Clintons were spreading. When the lies failed to stop Brother Barack, I think every African began to see the handwriting on the wall. This is good. Because once he is in power, the pigs will know to leave him alone because our whole community is behind him.
Did u mean to say Africans aren't stupid, or was that a Freudian slip? Africans weren't slow to get together. Africans have been voting for him at 80% and better,throughout(just cause early polls indicated we weren't supporting him sight unseen based solely on the white media liking him, doesn't mean we were scared or confused). If anything it has been OTHER communities who have been slow to get on the bandwagon. Interesting that even when Blacks wholesale and consistently, support him, the browbeating and the condescension still doesn't cease......


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What? Shucks. If Brother Baracks comes close to beating her, and I think he will, that will be great news.

Parsonally, I have no problem seeing a woman, a real woman, as president. So, don't throw that sexism non-sense at me. The problem is whoever, whatever woman wants my vote has got to answer to my concerns. Number one on foreign policy, Hilary is bought and paid for by zionist interests. If she gets elected, we can expect that same kind of non-sense we saw under Slick Willy when he failed to get peace treaty with the Palestinians. We can expect them to try to twist the wars in Sudan into some kind of a race war. We can expect more murder and slaughter against the poor refugees of Somalia. If opposing this is "sexism" , so be it.

As for my sexism, I think Oprah would make a better president. Also, Michele Obama looks very good to me. But, absolutely not Hilary. No apologies.


I was kinda. . .commenting on the race.

I am not sure what you are doing.


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Team Clinton 's Texas/Ohio firewall strategy may fail.They're hedging their bets on the older white female and Latino vote.Not good given Obama is on a roll and has three weeks to introduce himself to the electerate.
Burning Spear, pick another color. It's almost impossible to read your posts when you write in blue,on this background. I don't feel like going through extra steps to read people's posts,lol.


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God dayum Dogon, how many times your gonna repeat yourself..Im aware they can change thier vote. My point is they were not going to change UNLESS it becomes painfully obvious Barack is the peoples choice. If it was close they wouldve chosen hillary. Barack needed to go into the convention with the delegate/super lead amd so far it looks like he is. It puts presure on them not to overturn the results. If Hill loses Texas and Ohio the supers will move to Barack, theyd really have no choice. Hillary just turned out to be an AWFUL candidate
That was not your point. Your point was that Hillary was in the lead for Supers and that counted more than Barack's lead in pledged delegates. Already the Supers are considering deserting Clinton and her supporters are on the phones trying to get them to wait until Texas.

Isn't that amazing. . .that all those Supers you counted will start disappearing unless she can take Texas by 10 points or better?

We are going to convention no matter what. But the Supers will not overturn the pledged and popular vote totals. They will nominate Barack if he leads. Again, nominees are chosen. Establishment support doesn't win you a nomination. Neither does endorsements. You must convince the Supers that you are electable. They are not going to elect Hillary unless she can prove she can beat Barack. They are not going to nominate someone who has a good chance of losing.

I told you that from jump.


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Team Clinton 's Texas/Ohio firewall strategy may fail.They're hedging their bets on the older white female and Latino vote.Not good given Obama is on a roll and has three weeks to introduce himself to the electerate.
Wisconsin will tell you about Texas/Ohio. On the real. She knew she would lose the Potomac Primaries. But they thought they would be within 10 points or so, especiallly in Virginia. They really thought they would get a good number of delegates.

Well. . .

Now they actually think the will win Wisconsin. They are keeping that on the DL. They want to claim an upset even though she was leading in the last polls. They will know what the future holds if she loses badly in Wisconsin.


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Here is a little bit of information about Texas that the media is not reporting in detail. Texas is not just a primary state. It is also a caucus state. We have both.

Even if Hillary wins the majority of the Latino vote she isn't guaranteed a larger portion of delegates in Texas. If Obama carries a smaller portion of the Latino vote and he receives a huge portion of the AA votes/districts he will win the most delegates in Texas.

The reason is because if a district (heavily populated latino, white or black) carries more delegates in the previous presidential race and they do the same thing in the current race they will be given more delegates in the current presidential race.

In the 2004 presidential race, the AA districts in Texas voted more for John Kerry and the Latino districts voted in greater proportion for Bush. As a result the Democrats were unable to carry a large portion of Latino votes resulting in fewer delegates from Latinos.

African American neighborhoods in Texas will be given more delegates in this years race.

Obama has been unbeatable in caucus states. Three weeks to concentrate on only three states is a long time for him to make up ground on Hillary. I hope he sweeps her on March 4th.


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Wisconsin will tell you about Texas/Ohio. On the real. She knew she would lose the Potomac Primaries. But they thought they would be within 10 points or so, especiallly in Virginia. They really thought they would get a good number of delegates.

Well. . .

Now they actually think the will win Wisconsin. They are keeping that on the DL. They want to claim an upset even though she was leading in the last polls. They will know what the future holds if she loses badly in Wisconsin.
Why in the world do they think that? He's leading her in the most recent polls and he's spending more time there. She's been focusing on Texas. Wisconsin folks are already talking about being insulted about her looking past them and conceding the state to him.


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Why in the world do they think that? He's leading her in the most recent polls and he's spending more time there. She's been focusing on Texas. Wisconsin folks are already talking about being insulted about her looking past them and conceding the state to him.

Oh, because of New Hampshire. There is a theory that Obama overpolls. Because young people get all excited and say they will vote. But then get to partying and forget. So you have to always be careful.

The truth is her numbers did not hold. She really expected the gap to be smaller. She thought she would hold onto "White" women and the working class.

That didn't happen. She can't go to Texas, splitting or losing the "White" vote, giving him 35-40% of the Latino vote, and losing 80% of "Blacks".

The best case scenario is that she wins by 4-5 points. She needs to win by 20 to make a real difference in delegates counted. She cannot continue to let him have the lead in the popular vote and pledged delegates.


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Here is a little bit of information about Texas that the media is not reporting in detail. Texas is not just a primary state. It is also a caucus state. We have both.

Even if Hillary wins the majority of the Latino vote she isn't guaranteed a larger portion of delegates in Texas. If Obama carries a smaller portion of the Latino vote and he receives a huge portion of the AA votes/districts he will win the most delegates in Texas.

The reason is because if a district (heavily populated latino, white or black) carries more delegates in the previous presidential race and they do the same thing in the current race they will be given more delegates in the current presidential race.

In the 2004 presidential race, the AA districts in Texas voted more for John Kerry and the Latino districts voted in greater proportion for Bush. As a result the Democrats were unable to carry a large portion of Latino votes resulting in fewer delegates from Latinos.

African American neighborhoods in Texas will be given more delegates in this years race.

Obama has been unbeatable in caucus states. Three weeks to concentrate on only three states is a long time for him to make up ground on Hillary. I hope he sweeps her on March 4th.
Absolutely tremedous.

Thank you sir/madam for your insights. That is quite a bit of detail.


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Did u mean to say Africans aren't stupid, or was that a Freudian slip? Africans weren't slow to get together. Africans have been voting for him at 80% and better,throughout(just cause early polls indicated we weren't supporting him sight unseen based solely on the white media liking him, doesn't mean we were scared or confused). If anything it has been OTHER communities who have been slow to get on the bandwagon. Interesting that even when Blacks wholesale and consistently, support him, the browbeating and the condescension still doesn't cease......

Boy! I sure messed up that time. I did mean to say Africans are not stupid. Let me go back and fix that. Thanks for pointing out my error.

Actually, I think some of us were slow to support him. We just saw the absurdity of the NAACP calling for the seating of the Florida and Muichigan delegations. These are generally thought to be Hilary delegates. It just goes to show you that the NAACP is still more concerned about pleasing its zionists than they are about African interests.

What I am thinking is that if we can drum a little more African support for Barack, he will likely win both Texas and Ohio. This is one election when Africans can make a lot of difference simply bt being true to our African-ness and against house neeegrowism and Uncle Tomism. I mean, we even had Africans talking about how Brother Barack was an African because he has kinfolks in Indonesia, etc. But, Slick Willy really went overboard with his Sista Soulja-type lies and tricks.

Again, thanks for catching my typographical error.

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I was kinda. . .commenting on the race.

I am not sure what you are doing.
I am commenting on the election, too. But, since you raised the issue of so-called sexism, I thought it would be helpful to point out the obvious: Hilary is all wrong because of her politics, not her gender. There are many women, black and white, who would make better president that she.

This sexism thing is not new. I think Hilary expected to be able to play the sex card and embarraas us into supporting her. It did not work and could not work because Sister Oprah supported Brother Barack. I sincerely would like to see Oprah take the same type of ideas and phylosophy that we see in her girl schools for Africa initiative into a political program that could very well make her president. Plus, Sister Michelle is an outstanding example for our young women who need to see the proper role of African wives in relationship to supporting their African husbands. She has done a remarkable job of campaigning for Brother Barack. If this is any indication of her political integrity (note: Hilary has no politcal integrity), she would make a great candidate for high office, including possibly president.

I think this is important to note. As I have said repeatedly, things will never be the same again. I am very proud of the fact that so many outstanding African leaders are available for us to choice from. I do not think it is too early to start thinking about an African woman as president. Nobody needs Hilary.
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