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Default s'hit happens !!! - 10-01-08, 01:07 PM

Heard it was more to with Hillary mobilising thousands activists to knock on the doors of swing voters … and I don’t think that you can fake crying that well… she’s not that good of an actress…do you remember her famous patronising that black southern Christian congregation.

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I don't think her almost crying was fake,either. She got beaten badly in Iowa, after having been convinced of the inevitabilaty of her success. She's been wanting to be president for a long time now, she's a political nerd of the highest order and has been that, for years. She was tired, beaten, and stunned at losing, and the media had buried her, written her epitaph and in some instances were dancing on her grave. Shit, That's crying time,LOL. What I do think was less than genuine was her pretending that her emotianalism was because she feels so bad for regular folks. I don't doubt that she's passionate about policy and issues, her whole history and career confirm that, especially working on healthcare, women and children's issues, but she was crying because she felt bad for her damn self, because things had gone South, quick fast, and she was on the verge of total humiliation. As I said, crying or getting emotional, are very much in order in a situation like that. NOthing to fake, there. Besides as Mike said, she's not that good an actress. The fact that I'm agreeing with Mike on anything, is stunning in and of itself.


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Default 11-01-08, 06:43 AM

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Kerry has just endorsed Obama

Significant?

Who gets Edwards vote when he finally gets a clue and drops out?


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I heard that Kerry is endorsing Obama too, Cash. My first thought was, uh oh, kiss of death,lol. Seriously though, I think it's pretty negligible, except for people who are still seeking some kind of legitimacy stamp for Obama. Kerry was the party choice, last time around. On the other hand, he was a loser, and was made to look wimpy and weak,(in spite of being a decorated Vietnam war vet), by the likes of George Bush's draft dodging ass. Pretty pathetic, if you ask me. I for one don't put much stock in who he endorses, cause I don't think much of him. Others may feel differently.

I think that Edwards is probably pulling more votes from Obama than he is from Hillary. When he drops out, it will probably benefit Obama.


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Default 11-01-08, 07:10 AM

It was that moment when I realise that Bush was alot of things, stupid not being one of them

How he maanged to cast aspersions on Kerry who saw war whilst he was shooting up drugs and maxing out Daddy's credit card is something I can't get my head around. Also, getting 'flip flopper' to stick was a slick move as well

When people talk about party machines going into overdrive, this is great example


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It was that moment when I realise that Bush was alot of things, stupid not being one of them

How he maanged to cast aspersions on Kerry who saw war whilst he was shooting up drugs and maxing out Daddy's credit card is something I can't get my head around. Also, getting 'flip flopper' to stick was a slick move as well

When people talk about party machines going into overdrive, this is great example
Bush IS stupid in the way that most people think he is, that is intellectually, make no mistake about that. There is more to life though, than being smart intellectually. Bush almost has what most often is described as "street smarts". By that I mean, he is smart about human nature. He and those around him understand people in a basic way. He understands FEAR and how to use it to manipulate people, like nobody's business.

Another part of being "street smart", is being able to size other people up, quickly. Knowing when you've got someone who can be "punked" standing in front of you and knowing when you've got someone who will get in your ass, standing in front of you. Bush PUNKED Kerry, like a school yard bully. He correctly pegged Kerry as someone who was so cerebral, and erudite, that he could have his ass kicked all over the school yard, and instead of fighting back, would go pick up one of his books,(that you just knocked out of his hand), and start quoting from it,lol.

AMericans hate wimps, as a general rule, and correctly understood on an intuitive level that if this Kerry dude can't/won't effectively DEFEND himself or FIGHT back against a twit/twerp like Bush, who is blatantly LYING on him and attacking his war record and honor,hell, his manhood, ,(Kerry's wife Theresa had more balls when dealing with Bush,lol),how in the hell is he going to stand up to Bin Laden), ol boy from Iran(can't remember is name), or any other "boogeymen", lurking out there in the world, his Vietnam record not withstanding. Kerry should have lost, just for being spineless, and that's coming from someone who can't stand Bush.......


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The important thing is the delagate count. You need about 2,000 to get the nomination.Obama has the lead in that I beleive.But not 100% sure on that.
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Obama, Clinton Go for Black Vote in SC


CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — In beauty shops, churches and living rooms, organizers for Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton are in a fierce competition for the support of black voters in the upcoming first-in-the-South presidential primary.

Obama's campaign is counting on blacks who traditionally make up half of the Democratic primary voters here to deliver the state to him on Jan. 26, a victory that he hopes will help fuel momentum going into the "Mega Tuesday" voting in 22 states 10 days later. But he'll have to fend off Clinton, who comes with one of the most beloved political surnames in the black community.

The outreach is especially targeted at black women, who are reliable voters and who both campaigns recognize may feel loyalties to each candidate. And so far women have made the difference in the campaign — Obama won a majority of women in Iowa and took the state, while Clinton took most women and most votes overall in New Hampshire.

Juanita Edwards is one such voter. She came to see both candidates when they campaigned near her hometown of Simpsonville and still feels torn about which to vote for. Edwards said she's leaning toward Clinton because she likes that she had exposure to international affairs and health care during her time as first lady. But race and gender are on her mind too.

"I definitely respect the opportunity to vote for the first woman president and the first African-American president," she said. "If I have to lean toward one, I always lean toward a strong, intelligent woman."

In the early days of the primary race last year, Clinton had the advantage in polls here and she's won over many influential black leaders. But Obama has been able to turn that around through a labor-intensive effort aimed at black communities. He has a large campaign staff that tries to win over preachers and barbers who hold sway in the community, and those organizers also hold meetings with small groups of people — mostly women — in their homes.

The message has a different focus than it did in Iowa and New Hampshire, where almost all voters are white. It stresses Obama's civil rights work, his faith and the struggles he faced growing up, only to end up in Ivy League schools.

"Dream of a president who was raised like Barack was by a single mom who had to work and go to school and raise her kids and accept food stamps once in a while," the candidate's wife, Michelle Obama, said on a visit to the state in November. "Imagine a president who knows what that's like."

It's a story that Deborah Williams says she shares with the two sons that she's raised on her own.

"He's an example of somebody who was raised by a single parent and came out on top and still cares for somebody else," she said. "That's what I always tell my sons; you have to care for others and you have to get your education."

Williams, who came to the University of Charleston on Thursday to see Obama speak, said she will vote for him in the primary, even though at first she was backing Clinton.

"Initially I was supporting her because I must say I'm a Bill Clinton fan," said Williams, an elementary school teacher's assistant. "But then Barack came along and had all the things to say about change."

John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee, endorsed Obama here on Thursday to send a message to South Carolina voters that Obama is not simply a candidate for blacks, but one who crosses the racial divide. It also could tell black voters who haven't been reassured by Obama's win in Iowa that he's a candidate who can be embraced by white America.

The Clintons have yet to announce a visit to South Carolina after her win in New Hampshire, and Obama advisers say they wonder whether she's going to campaign in the state. There's a theory that she could skip it, then argue that he was able to win because it was a predominantly black election.

Clinton adviser Minyon Moore said that won't happen. "It's her intention to be in South Carolina and work for every vote there," Moore said. "I can assure you that she's not abandoning South Carolina. There are trips being planned."

Asked how Obama was able to chip away at Clinton's lead among black voters, Moore pointed to a rally last month that drew nearly 30,000 to see the Illinois senator and his most famous friend. "He did have a lovely event with Oprah Winfrey, and we do credit him with that," she said.

Obama advisers say it's unlikely Oprah will make it back to campaign. But spouses of both candidates could help. Bill Clinton would be a powerful draw should the campaign decide to send him. Michelle Obama plans to campaign next week in Georgetown, S.C., her maternal grandfather's hometown.


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The important thing is the delagate count. You need about 2,000 to get the nomination.Obama has the lead in that I beleive.But not 100% sure on that.
Actually, after NH, they are tied at 9 in the delegate count. Edwards has 2, I believe.


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The important thing is the delagate count. You need about 2,000 to get the nomination.Obama has the lead in that I beleive.But not 100% sure on that.
Cinton has the lead with 183 delagates Obama has 78..Despite Romenys losses he still leads the delagate count on the republican side..

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Cinton has the lead with 183 delagates Obama has 78..Despite Romenys losses he still leads the delagate count on the republican side..

Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com
I'm confused,now. I was about to come back and say that Burning Spear was right. Obama leads with 25 delegates, and Clinton has 24. I was looking at the delegates they picked up in NH.


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I'm confused,now. I was about to come back and say that Burning Spear was right. Obama leads with 25 delegates, and Clinton has 24. I was looking at the delegates they picked up in NH.
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