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Default More than 200 UK registered charities working in Africa - 17-05-08, 11:26 PM

There are 200 that have Africa either in their title or 'objects' (statement of purpose) of these approximately 30 have be removed from the register.

There are similar figures for the Caribbean.

I went through most of them the other night and although some appear to not be functioning (they have no income or expenditure) others have substantial incomes-although their expenditure doesn't always tally.

There are a lot that are clearly set up by Africans (at least the trustees have African names) And then there are the ones run solely by Europeans or with the occassional African.

There are some that seem to generate quite substantial funds while others can't even achieve the minimal amount required for registeration.

There is a worrying number of 'Christian' charities...I say worrying not because their purpose is to provide for the poor, but to 'spread christianity' Of the many I came across one called the Africa Christian Fellowship (UK & Eire) Their 'object' is to advance the christian religion in paticular amongst African in the UK & Eire...This charity earned £15,000+ in 2005.

There is another one that stood out called ANGLICAN MISSIONERS OF AFRICA DEVELOPMENT AND EDUCATION TRUST Besides the relief of poverty and advancement of education their objective is the Advancement of Christian Religion.

But then, there were a couple that gave me shivers, having alerted my pedophile radar...wolves in sheeps clothing, me does think.

Central Register of Charities maintained by the Charity Commission for England and Wales - Search Results



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Registered Number Subsidiary Charity Name Registration Date Registration Removal Date
1085470 "ZISIZE" THE HEATON LEE MEMORIAL TRUST 09 Mar 2001 n/a
1080489 (HASTE) HELP AFRICAN SCHOOLS TO EDUCATE 28 Apr 2000 n/a
1055265 A BIT OF AFRICA 10 May 1996 14 Feb 2005
1117404 A K FOUNDATIONS 28 Dec 2006 n/a
1069099 A V FOUNDATION 09 Apr 1998 n/a
1067371 A.S.P.A. (AFRICAN SCHOOLS PROJECT APPEAL) 12 Jan 1998 n/a
1087035 ABBAY CHARITABLE TRUST 18 Jun 2001 n/a
1117700 ABESU 25 Jan 2007 n/a
1111395 ABOLICAO TRUST 21 Sep 2005 n/a
1086496 ABUNDANCE ARTS 08 May 2001 n/a
1066536 ACADEMY OF AFRICA ARTS 02 Dec 1997 n/a
1112066 ACE 2000 TRAINING AND DEVELOPMENT LIMITED 15 Nov 2005 n/a
1074911 ACT 29 Mar 1999 n/a
1092074 ACT 4 AFRICA 17 May 2002 n/a
289898 ACTION AGAINST FAMINE AND POVERTY 25 Jul 1984 29 Nov 1996
1111755 ACTION FOR RELIEF IN COASTAL AREAS 20 Oct 2005 n/a
1103153 ACTION FOR THE BENEFIT OF CHILDREN 08 Apr 2004 n/a
1096522 ACTION FOR THE GAMBIA 14 Mar 2003 n/a
1107815 ACTION FORCE AFRICA 26 Jan 2005 n/a
1072661 ACTION IN AFRICA 01 Dec 1998 n/a


Number of records 200
Number of pages 10


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I forgot to mention, the majority of the 200, are dealing in education.

Maybe Madonna could have put her money/backing behind already established charities.



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I forgot to mention, the majority of the 200, are dealing in education.

Maybe Madonna could have put her money/backing behind already established charities.

Madonna can do what she wants with her money.

So there are 200 UK registered charities in Africa...And the point is?

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Default 20-05-08, 03:45 AM

What do you mean? Are you asking what point I am making between Madonna and the number of charities out there?

OR are you asking what point I am making by posting information about African charities?


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I wasn't the one to say she couldn't.. I was having a dig. My problem is not what she is doing. or Will Smith for that matter... But that we choose to discuss it?

And before someone runs the 'free speach', speech. Yes people can discuss what they want...But come on please what is there to discuss in either the Will Smith or Madonna stories?

Maddona is focusing on Africa for her current media project (publicity) and Will Smith who is already very well off is setting up a business, that if sucessful could be an earner

If I was making a point by creating the thread on registered charities (not talking the big charities) working in Africa. It was that there are other areas we could be discussing instead of those dictated by the mainstream media.

The Madonna comment was an after thought, but it was a dig that should have included Smith...I wasn't having a pop at Madonna...so you can pull your chest back in.


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There are 200 that have Africa either in their title or 'objects' (statement of purpose) of these approximately 30 have be removed from the register.

There are similar figures for the Caribbean.
Surprised, thought it would have been more than that. Think a lot could do better if they did some ground work like some do going around pubs and what not but with an introduction first people find it difficult to say no when you're right there in front of them, going door to door business to business does well.... only groups focused on development I'd support personally. Quite a few charities are a waste of time and money and quite a few others should be part of a government budget rather than left to their success or failure, child protection/support groups, medical treatment charities etc


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many of these 'charities' are fronts for the CIA to have easy access to a country. This is the main reason why Burma is very suspicious of 'charities' entering their country. They've seen how some of the more shady 'charities' are there with a negative agenda
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Default 20-05-08, 11:26 AM

Interesting.

Know that some medical charities attempting to find cures for diseases test treatments on people without consent... guess they flood the country with goods and upset the economy... part of what they call, ''soft power''.


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Default 20-05-08, 05:01 PM

Interesting thread.

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many of these 'charities' are fronts for the CIA to have easy access to a country. This is the main reason why Burma is very suspicious of 'charities' entering their country. They've seen how some of the more shady 'charities' are there with a negative agenda
I assume you mean US based ones and not those in the UK?
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Default 20-05-08, 05:39 PM

Of course US are the home of CIA but they have many operatives working abroad and most intelligence agencies work together on some level especially the western ones in order to protect western superiority. UK, France, all major western countries have charitable organisations which undercover agents infiltrate in order to get into countries easily. If a lone foriegner were to turn up in certain countries, question would be asked but if they turn up as part of a charity/NGO then they won't face that scrutiny.

Read a book called Confessions of an Econmic Hitman, it will frighten you in terms of the many ways the CIA infiltrate and destablise countries. What they normally do is approach a country in dire financial need, then offer it a loan with strings, e.g the rich country gets to do all the rebuilding etc. The rich country promises a loan, with strings, with a high interest rate then organises the rebuilding using their own companies like Dick Cheney's Haliburton. Then the poor country has to pay back those building companies extortionate amounts from the loan money (like a loan shark) so the loan money never gets to the people its recycled back into profit for the rich country. If they default on loans, which the rich country is actually hoping to happen, then the rich country have really got them by the balls and can get them to agree to anythng like their bitch including building airbases , letting in agents, giving them unfair trade deals, taking their resources. If the poor country refuses to bow down, then we see war.

The book is a blinder. The shady 'charities' are part of this agenda. They can do resource assesments for the CIA and other intelligence services, they can test 'cures' as Black Lion said. In a state of chaos they can do as they please. Its not so much the Oxfam's etc that ring alarm bells although they do have undercover in their midst but the real shady ones are the ones who still exist despite not apparently making any money. How can a charity that raises only £15k a year survive? Are they getting funding from other sources we don't know about?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but hasn't it struck you that despite the milions of pounds given to charities that not one country the'yre in seem to improve? In fact in a lot of cases these countries end up in a worse situation. So whilst the Burmese authorities are a paranoid probably inhumane bunch, i can see why they do not want uncrontrolled 'charities' roaming accross their country and taking notes for the west.
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Default 20-05-08, 07:51 PM

Ok, thanks Babygirl44. I asked because the idea of UK based charities being fronts for the CIA is one that has never occurred to me. So it's more a case that they may be infiltrated by CIA operatives for the reasons you state rather than a situation existing where CIA front organisations are officially sanctioned by the British government. (Not that I should really be surprised even if they were!) Thanks for the book recommendation.
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The British and the American governments work hand in hand, what one knows it shares with the other, there'd be no problem if the Mi5 or CIA wanted to fund or infiltrate any charity in either country or arrest/hold anyone in either country.

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The basic concept of power is the ability to influence others to get them to do what you want. There are three major ways to do that: one is to threaten them with sticks; the second is to pay them with carrots; the third is to attract them or co-opt them, so that they want what you want. If you can get others to be attracted to want what you want, it costs you much less in carrots and sticks. [1]
Soft power, then, represents the third way of getting the outcomes you want. Soft power is contrasted with hard power, which has historically been the predominant realist measure of national power, through quantitative metrics such as population size, concrete military assets, or a nation's Gross Domestic Product. But having such resources does not always produce the desired outcomes as the United States discovered in the Vietnam War. The resources from which soft power behavior is derived are culture (when it is attractive to others), values (when there is no hypocrisy in their application) and foreign policies (when they are seen as legitimate in the eyes of others). Unless these conditions are present, culture and ideas do not necessarily produce the attraction that is essential for soft power behavior. The extent of attraction can be measured by public opinion polls, by elite interviews, and case studies. Nye argues that soft power is more than influence, since influence can also rest on the hard power of threats or payments. And soft power is more than just persuasion or the ability to move people by argument, though that is an important part of it. It is also the ability to attract, and attraction often leads to acquiescence.
If I am persuaded to go along with your purposes without any explicit threat or exchange taking place — in short, if my behavior is determined by an observable but intangible attraction — soft power is at work. Soft power uses a different type of currency — not force, not money — to engender cooperation. It uses an attraction to shared values, and the justness and duty of contributing to the achievement of those values. [2]
The success of soft power heavily depends on the actor’s reputation within the international community, as well as the flow of information between actors. Thus, soft power is often associated with the rise of globalization and neoliberal international relations theory. Popular culture and media is regularly identified as a source of soft power, as is the spread of a national language, or a particular set of normative structures; a nation with a large amount of soft power and the good will that engenders it inspire others to acculturate, avoiding the need for expensive hard power expenditures.
Soft power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Better link; The Benefits of Soft Power - HBS Working Knowledge

Amazon.com: Soft Power: The Means To Success In World Politics: Jr.", Joseph S. "Nye: Books


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