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The Real Trouble with Zimbabwe -
30-06-08, 08:55 PM
By Emmanuel Franklyne Ogbunwezeh
Why are the Western establishment, and the Western media so interested in Zimbabwe? History has proven that these guys are never good Samaritans on a voyage of charity to help Africa get out of the predicament, which her contact with the West for the past 800 years imposed on her. So, do they love Zimbabwe so much that they are ready to do anything to save that country from political tyranny? History recorded with accuracy that these guys supported a White-tyranny that lasted for donkey years, until the guerrillas led by people like Nkomo, Mugabe and others made further occupation economically inefficient. History equally showed imperialism as a metaphysic of diametrical exploitation, which rolled over peoples, sacked cultures and plundered civilizations to compel rivers of wealth to flow in the metropole. British wealth was constructed upon the dead bodies and defunct souls of many cultures in Africa and Asia. Britain like every other imperial power turns virtue on its head canonizing her pirates and plunders
Is the West not a cradle of democracy, and are they not democrats who want to help Zimbabwe on the path to democracy, which has allegedly been destroyed by Mugabe? Democracy was never a Western invention. My ancestors in the Igbo heartland lived and breathed a democratic and egalitarian society, which was superlatively functional and attendant to the needs of the society, when ancient Greece was slumbering in primitivity torn by tribal wars between Athenians and Spartans. Igboukwu bronze discoveries dating back to much earlier as 450 BC are footnotes to this
They west never invented democracy and they are never democrats. They are hypocrites. The West is not a cradle of democracy.
By the last check, Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, and does not pretend to be. And the Western media are not falling over each other to paint the house of Saud as the great Satan. In spite of the fact that 19 Saudi citizens took part in hijacking planes and ramming them into the world trade centre like a huge phallus ****ing America up, this country was never classified in the axis of evil, which is this establishment’s favourite designation for many people who aspire to freedom they way the understand it, which violates the conceptual schemes of the metropole.
In spite of all that is peddled by the West establishment and media. The problem in Zimbabwe is not Robert Mugabe. The problem in Zimbabwe is Western hypocrisy. The problem is racism that is eugenic as well as economic. Racism has not ended in spite of the lip service paid to it in the Western Media. You can ask FOX about their views on Barack Obama. Geraldine Ferraro is my witness here. Britain and her allies are funding insurrections by financing MDC and other lackeys to be a confrontational opposition to Mugabe. This is not the first time that the Western establishment are financing coups and putsches around the world
That there is hyper galloping inflation in Zimbabwe today is thanks to the sanctions imposed on Zimbabwe because Mugabe took action to revoke centuries of injustice perpetrated on his people by Western imperialism. Children are dying at their mothers breasts in Zimbabwe because milk does not flow anymore from the breasts of their half-starved mothers. The Western establishment sees these and similar human tragedies unfold daily, but skip over it. They do so because the atrocity in Zimbabwe is their trick designed to deal with Zimbabweans for abiding Mugabe a second more, after he fell out of favour with his western masters. They engineered it as a gimmick to bring Mugabe’s government on its knees and force his people to kick him out. But they underestimated the resiliency of a determined man who feels aggrieved at the monumental injustice that British colonialism wrecked on Zimbabwe and wanted to keep profiting from, ad infinitum.
No matter what happens in Zimbabwe, it will never revise the fundamental injustice, which British conspiracy admixed with international hypocrisy has inflicted on the people of Zimbabwe. Mugabe may be a tyrant and one of the African dinosaurs who couldn’t make his country fly against the insurmountable odds placed in his path by the colonial legacy, but that does not justify what the west is doing to Zimbabwe. On the scores of justice, this is screaming injustice, and a placard of western political callousness and conceit.
The problems in Zimbabwe and in the Nigerian Niger Delta are footnotes of British imperialism, which has a metaphysic of exploitation. Some Western commentators, opinion mongers, and some prominent Africans have been rented and placed on imperialistic payrolls to launder the neo-imperialistic image and revise colonial history in the light of today. Many of them have been essaying to exonerate Western neo-imperialistic devices from taking their rightful blame for the African predicament. But failure has greeted their enterprise. Their job metaphysic was rooted in falsehood. And since lies can never fly, they would never succeed. These hired guns peddle a version of history which is allergic to the facts. They go about their revisionist charges with the slogans “we cannot blame the west for Africa’s problems four decades after the ‘official’ end of colonialism’. Or other parts of the world like India and Singapore were equally colonies, but have succeeded in gaining admittance into the halls of the development”.
They sidestepped the fact that the version of colonialism practiced in Africa eviscerated African psyche and culture; kidnapped our gods to grace their museums as artefacts to reward their plundering enterprise and mock our technological inferiority; plucked our meanings and significances out of the sky, desecrated our social relationships and epistemic authorities; and bequeathed an eternal epistemic fluidity, which conferred African cultures with a cultural identity crises that has spelt the end of their relevance to Africans.
colonial masters on departing the continent groomed a crop of ideologically deficient houseboys, who like Pavlovian dogs were congenitally engineered to listen to the directives of the master in a neo-colonial arrangement that replaced white colonialists with their black collaborators. And anyone who rises against the grotesque incompetence and rapacious recklessness of these collaborating Sonderkommandos incurs the instant wrath of the colonial masters. This was why Lumumba incurred western wrath for daring to question the status quo in the Congo. Mandela brought the wrath of the global apartheid establishment on his head for refusing to die quietly in an evil system directed against his people.
The problem with Zimbabwe was manufactured in Whitehall. And Britain is manipulating all her allies to join her in isolating Zimbabwe and bringing Mugabe to his knees. The allies did not disappoint. They responded with the promptitude of a herd of unthinking sheep. British allies all banded together and swooped in for the kill with their sanctions. But many Africans are not sold on this round of western hypocrisy. We have been veteran witnesses to such dummies. The other day, Mandela celebrated his 90 year on, 27 of which was spent in incarceration for daring an evil establishment, which was supported by those who wants Mugabe’s head today.
For 27 years, Mandela rotted in a prison fashioned by a white supremacist enclave, which has America, Britain and most other Western nations as trading and diplomatic partners. They did nothing to release an innocent man from suffering for his beliefs and the rights of his people to live in their land with dignity. They allowed him to suffer and rot there. The Western establishment labelled him a terrorist. It was not until this year 2008 that the United States of America removed Mandela’s name from the lists of terrorists forbidden to enter the US; eighteen years after this great son of Africa stepped out of prison to lead his country with courage, dignity and fairness. These hypocrites never leaned on apartheid South Africa to democratize because they fear that in a democracy, which is a game of numbers, the Black Africans will triumph and trump every other race in any election.
Today, the same Whitehall and Washington which abided these monumental hypocrisies have now donned new apparels to advertise themselves as purveyors of democracy; simply because Mugabe took away Black lands from white occupiers and gave it back to the original owners, after the UK reneged on its commitments to the 1980 Lancaster agreement.
Ours is a call to all men of goodwill. All we need is a change of attitudes. Africa needs a media outlet, which will compete and neutralise the lies peddled about Africa in western conceptual schemes by Western media conglomerates like CNN and BBC. The Arabs have done that with Al Jazeera. We should educate ourselves to the dangers of swallowing the manufactured consents and opinions peddled as facts in and through these mediums. The Western establishment should leave Zimbabwe alone. Like Bob Marley, the august reggae philosopher said: Only Africans can liberate Zimbabwe! This inheres in the origin of the problem, which is Western hypocrisy in its consolidated and convoluted dimensions.
one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one
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30-06-08, 09:17 PM
The problem here on BN is one of pointless diversions. Sure here in England you worry about the BBC's coverage and what the west is up to and wants. It's irrelevant.
Talking about Mugabe being knighted. Irrelevant.
Talking about white farmers. Irrelevant. Nobody inside or outside Zim even contests land reform nor is there any point since damn near all the white people have already gone. Those that are left are obviously ZANU friends (yes they exist). It's a dead issue folks. Irrelevant.
Whatever silly soundbites one or two outspoken figures say on a given day. Irrelevant. Talk all you want.
Western Hypocrysy in terms of democracy. Irrelvant. Okay you might think it's important to YOU living in a western democracy but again.... irrelevant.
None of the above have a damn thing to do with anything nor anybody in Zim today, save the clever spin doctors who used to rile the rest of africa up.
Babbling about western bias or media coverage or stupid things like this is for me, like claiming you're a black activist when all you do is moan about stereotypes in adverts and mean words or celebs who show a lil racism. Bigger issues going on.
I got no time to talk with folks who waste their zimbabwe time on bullshit like talking about what the west is up to. It doesn't fugging matter.
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30-06-08, 10:12 PM
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It matters a lot and is very relevant...and how would you know when you sitting in your cosy home making all this utterances..maybe you cannot handle the truth let Africans solve their own problems ever since they have been poking their nose in Africa before and after independence there has been nothing but mayhem...they might fool you because they not in there as mercenaries but they would never fool me into thinking they are so innocent...
so Mr Watcher what would you have in Zimb??..a puppet PM succumbing and forever running to the West
what message would Zimb be sending out to Africa be a good boy and all would be well..You don't live in Africa you don't understand the heartbeat of Africa or the reverence of Mugabe in Africa...keep getting those newsreels..Talking to Zimbs over here is like talking to Cubans in Miami..whaty do you expect them to say??
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30-06-08, 10:38 PM
What does anybody in zim care what bush says or what tutu says or gordon brown? What does any average man in zimbabwe care about the bias of western media?
How is talking about any of that meaningful to an african in zimbabwe? They don't give a ****. It just bugs YOU but means nothing. African solutions my arse, you're just whinning about the easy nothings to avoid discussing the big somethings.
And leave out the ad hominems about my cosy home when you ain't nowhere different. Don't talk to me like you're a front line soldier when you're in the same damn city as me. Live in Africa? Most of my family live in Zimbabwe. Have you even ever been there? Don't recycle stale old crap you read from some bullshit site somewhere at me like I'm some newbie to this sh1t. As for that reverance... it done died out a long time ago. Those leaders you see "reveering" him are the same swines who rehoused the white farmers and took them on after they were expelled. Some of them even kept quiet about the Mark Thatcher coup... don't give me bollox about reverence when you clearly don't know much about realpolitik
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30-06-08, 10:40 PM
The Watcher - man this is deja vu. Had lunch with a high roller in the city today breaking down the politricks for me. From over 50% of the stock market being dependent on African resources to the sanctions crippling Zimbabwe and the west needing the Zimbabwe opposition party to get in so they can once again play their game, all disguised as democracy.
He's been to Zimbabwe three times in the last two years and going again before this year finishes. He says don't watch the western media hype, go there and see for yourself, Zimbabwe with Mugabe has got it going on and the proof in the pudding is to name one African country doing any better than them yet the west have this big focus on Zimbabwe...why don't they go and sort out Somalia, Congo or Sudan. Hypocrites. Anti Mugabe = pro west.
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30-06-08, 10:43 PM
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The Watcher - man this is deja vu. Had lunch with a high roller in the city today breaking down the politricks for me. From over 50% of the stock market being dependent on African resources to the sanctions crippling Zimbabwe and the west needing the Zimbabwe opposition party to get in so they can once again play their game, all disguised as democracy.
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Not to be rude mate but don't talk to me like I'm 10. I been here too long for this naive sort of thing. Read it yourself. That is a list of individuals. Most of whom smuggled and are smuggling money OUT. Like ummm other heroes, Abacha, Mobutu, Amin etc. Real Stand up for the people Africans... The "sanctions" are a smokescreen
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30-06-08, 10:48 PM
Watcher - wow, thought you were 9 myself 
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30-06-08, 10:53 PM
Watcher..I know its difficult to discuss matters out in the open because of the possible reprocussions..However if you can elaborate on what is the true position...because i have to be honest i'm struggling all i see is two sides of of the same coin using the poor people in the middle as the pawns in a twisted game of power chicken...waiting to see who blinks first..
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30-06-08, 10:55 PM
It's like you can kill and maim as many africans as you want, just be sure to diss and blame whitey while you're doing it. People still falling for that crap today?
What sanctions and whitey got to do with building palaces, golf courses and shopping trips around the world? What any of that small shit you're all on about got to do with any of the anti african excesses carried out by africans now?
You lot are funny sometimes.
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30-06-08, 11:01 PM
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Watcher..I know its difficult to discuss matters out in the open because of the possible reprocussions..However if you can elaborate on what is the true position...because i have to be honest i'm struggling all i see is two sides of of the same coin using the poor people in the middle as the pawns in a twisted game of power chicken...waiting to see who blinks first..
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Well some people are concerned with image and how africa looks. What funny things Mugabe can say today to stick it to the west and whitey to make them here in the west smile and feel proud. Yeah... standing up for us. It's silly. Mugabe been playing that game for years. He's good at it.
My point is that I can't see how any of the stuff people are talking about on BN in regards to zimbabwe has the slightest effect on zimbabwe or zimbweans.
Easy to talk smack about democracy and the west but the rules Mugabe are played by and is abusing are the same ones he was cool with for 20 years. The ones he helped shape in the first place. Now all of a sudden western blacks are calling "democracy" into question because he clearly didn't win? Come on now.
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30-06-08, 11:02 PM
Watcher - i ran something similar by my friend today, talking about all those fleeing to South Africa seeking refuge, he said people are fleeing from many African countries where the west have their fingers in ripping out natural resources so why so much focus on Zimbabwe.
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30-06-08, 11:03 PM
@Watcher..
I don't have to come from Zimbabwe to feel the pain and don't have to be a frontline soldier I'm African and Yoruba Nigerian to boot...so when it comes to being suppressed we know the story too well.....shame you didn't mention BarclaysBank operations in Zimb...and some priceless Brit Assets in Zimb..Yes agreed the conspiracy doesn't bother the people(historically have they ever??)if they bothered to get to grips with those theories they wouldn't be in that situation in the first place just like Asians have done they GET IT!!..Agreed people just want a good life but why put sanctions on the people or you just schemed through the post and made your assumptions??...why punish the people because of Mugabe..??
I have a very reliable source on the ground level and I would rather believe what i hear from him...
When i visit Nigeria and see what the Western Media peddle about Nigeria it reveals to me lies and thir continua covert interference... supporting militarily the Northerners in Nigeria imposing them on us since Independence 'cos they are lapdogs to the West..... so please save me we too preoccupied with the West theory..they are the PROBLEM out there..
If you referring to the Farmers being re-housed by Nigeria what do you expect from the incompetent fools that rule Nigeria..
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