The BN Village  
Home Register FAQ Members Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to the African and Caribbean Social network.

You are currently are in guest mode which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access other features. By joining this free African Caribbean Social utility you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), upload images, add videos, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join the African and Caribbean community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Go Back   The BN Village > Welcome to The Black Forum - The Black net Village > News and Politics Village
Reload this Page Ronaldo..Slave, is this an insult to Black people?

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Ronaldo..Slave, is this an insult to Black people?
1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. (#1 (permalink))
Old
Kunjufu's Avatar
Kunjufu is Online
BNV Managing Editor
Kunjufu has disabled reputation
 
Posts: 16,417
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Belly of the beast, United Kingdom
Send a message via MSN to Kunjufu
Default Ronaldo..Slave, is this an insult to Black people? - 13-07-08, 08:12 AM



This prick and Sepp Blatter compare footballers to modern day Slaves, am I the only one thinking that this is not only disrespectful but also a complete insult to what our people suffered via various empires...?

I'm pretty sure that if Ronaldo was dumb enough to compare his existence to jews on the same way he would be vilified out of town...so why hasn;t no one picked him up and condemned him for this outragous comparison and why hasn't Sepp Blatter been sacked for grass stupidty?


African heart, African mind

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement Sponsored links

(#2 (permalink))
Old
Kunjufu's Avatar
Kunjufu is Online
BNV Managing Editor
Kunjufu has disabled reputation
 
Posts: 16,417
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Belly of the beast, United Kingdom
Send a message via MSN to Kunjufu
Default 13-07-08, 08:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by New Improved Morris View Post
To be fair, I have heard quite a lot about what a OTT thing it was to say. Only yesterday, on the news, I heard Gordon Banks, Desmond Tutu, and Pele say so.
Yes that is true, but it was in the CONTEXT of football and his current terms with Man utd..not in the CONTEXT of what an insensitive and insulting comparison to those who suffered slavery under various Empires....


African heart, African mind

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Bredder Tukoma is Offline
Villager Senior
Bredder Tukoma
 
Posts: 3,879
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: , , United Kingdom
Default 13-07-08, 11:39 AM

Black people dont own the history of slavery. They themselves were slaves too / not in the same numbers / but they were chattel slaves too at the same period of the trans atlantic slavery. The barbary slave trade and the Arabic raids all over Europe come to mind.

So before I pull up Mr Blatter on his comments I would remind him that his own countrymen were chattel slaves/ many Spanish and Portugese were also and is he comparing Ronaldo's predicament to the 10s of thousands who were held in Algiers/ Tunis/ and worked like dogs.

Of course we cant forget what happened to us but at the same time slavery is not exclusively a black experience. So no its not an insult to black people alone.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#4 (permalink))
Old
LadyDay's Avatar
LadyDay is Offline
BNV Managing Editor
LadyDay is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 7,976
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: , , United Kingdom
Default 13-07-08, 07:37 PM

i dont see it as an insult to black people
slavery still exists
my hubs compared my last job to slavery.
if he had said its like the african slave trade then yeah but he did not


Think outside of the box...Think in spirit

Act as if it were impossible to fail!!!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#5 (permalink))
Old
astmartins's Avatar
astmartins is Offline
Villager Senior
astmartins is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,839
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: , ,
Unhappy 13-07-08, 07:55 PM

Cmon people this is not offensive at all if anything Blatter and Ronaldo should be castigated for saying footballers who live in lap of luxury are actually working slaves..some of us still complain about the Slavish hours of working in the UK Economy or Worse in the USA(at least they pay well)
Footballers are pathetic..some of thier wage demands are just astronomical they so not in touch with the average fan that stump up their wages
I would be a slave anyday even for £10,000 a week or less..hehe!!


one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one

Last edited by astmartins; 13-07-08 at 08:06 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links Remove advertisements
Advertisement
Advertisement

(#6 (permalink))
Old
Kunjufu's Avatar
Kunjufu is Online
BNV Managing Editor
Kunjufu has disabled reputation
 
Posts: 16,417
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Belly of the beast, United Kingdom
Send a message via MSN to Kunjufu
Default 13-07-08, 08:02 PM

Hmmm...................


African heart, African mind

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#7 (permalink))
Old
astmartins's Avatar
astmartins is Offline
Villager Senior
astmartins is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,839
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: , ,
Angry 13-07-08, 08:07 PM

Go on spill..guess you disagree...


one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#8 (permalink))
Old
Kunjufu's Avatar
Kunjufu is Online
BNV Managing Editor
Kunjufu has disabled reputation
 
Posts: 16,417
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Belly of the beast, United Kingdom
Send a message via MSN to Kunjufu
Default 13-07-08, 08:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by astmartins View Post
Go on spill..guess you disagree...
I accept the well made points made by others, however i thinkthis is why people take step with us over and above other cultures... Because we are just too flippant with things connected to our history... Ronaldo's comments for me devalue and diminish what we went through as slaves.... Slavery wasn't nice nor should we allow it to be compared so flippantly to footballers, it says to others that slavery was nothing, that all our commentary is emotional crap... I don't believe it is and I think they Ronaldo & blatter got off lightly with their out of order comments..


African heart, African mind

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#9 (permalink))
Old
astmartins's Avatar
astmartins is Offline
Villager Senior
astmartins is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 1,839
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: , ,
Unhappy 13-07-08, 09:57 PM

@K.....are we saying the word Slavery is only attached to the Trans-atlantic slave Trade??..
There has always been slavery especially so in European cultures hence the perfection of the Art of Slavery on confronting Africans-South and Northen American Indians..Something tells me those words weren't used in direct reference to what our people went through..when i've known to use this term regarding work..in mind it sure wasn't an inference to the horrors our ancestors went through hundreds of years ago!!...
Guess we all have our own interpretations of this...which is understandable


one will need a bigger lie to cover the first one
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#10 (permalink))
Old
Kunjufu's Avatar
Kunjufu is Online
BNV Managing Editor
Kunjufu has disabled reputation
 
Posts: 16,417
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Belly of the beast, United Kingdom
Send a message via MSN to Kunjufu
Default 13-07-08, 10:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by astmartins View Post
@K.....are we saying the word Slavery is only attached to the Trans-atlantic slave Trade??..
There has always been slavery especially so in European cultures hence the perfection of the Art of Slavery on confronting Africans-South and Northen American Indians..Something tells me those words weren't used in direct reference to what our people went through..when i've known to use this term regarding work..in mind it sure wasn't an inference to the horrors our ancestors went through hundreds of years ago!!...
Guess we all have our own interpretations of this...which is understandable
in short no and you did make a valid point previously, however i suggest that if you mentioned slavery most people would associate it with our experience, and thats MY problem with it.. whilst i do not want to be defined by slavery...i also do not think we ought to allow tha experience to be devalued in such a way.... Especially in the light of the current debate on reperations, on getting an acknowledgement on the European impact on slavery...

I totally accept Morris's point that Ronaldo and Blatter did not intent this, but that is not a reason in my eyes to allow the comment to pass without question...


African heart, African mind

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#11 (permalink))
Old
x_Lullaby_x's Avatar
x_Lullaby_x is Offline
Villager
x_Lullaby_x is on a distinguished road
 
Posts: 229
Join Date: Aug 2007
Default 13-07-08, 10:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by New Improved Morris View Post
Yes, you're right. It was in that context.
Whether it was a calculated insult, is a different matter. I think it's probably more to do with stupidity than anything else.



I really dont think that this airheaded, overpaid young man had anything more in mind than himself and his pay packet.


The Chains Of Habit are Too Weak To Be Felt Until They Are Too Strong To Be Broken
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#12 (permalink))
Old
Agu Bu Oji's Avatar
Agu Bu Oji is Offline
Villager Leader
Agu Bu Oji is an unknown quantity at this point
 
Posts: 6,310
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: , ,
Default 14-07-08, 10:50 AM

Have said the same thing about footballers, they're bought and sold to the highest bidder, obviously paid for it but in that, the bidding and weighing up how good they are for the market be that in branding and the commercial side to the game, think David Beckham et al, or for their skills in trade its all very much like, ''slavery''... a term which seems to be stuck as a lame historical marker for us African peoples, one that demeans the qualities and capabilities of our ancestors who through their strength and infallibility survived such a time.

Nowadays everyones a, ''slave''.


Black Lion is... Agu Bu Oji in Igbo, Simba nyeusi in Swahili, the name of a hospital in Addis Adaba the capital of Ethiopia.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in Technorati Share On Face Book!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
(#13 (permalink))
Old
DtotheJ is Offline