messy jesse was caught use that word in the same clip of him talking behind obama's back.


Fox released the full clip yesterday.



Jesse and a lot of these older people can't fool younger people with the public grandstanding......kids see what you DO so you can front for the newscameras but you are who you are......

he criticizes rappers....

hmmmm


having illegitimate children....calling people Ns?


but doing it behind closed doors?



he's a closet rapper

Jesse Jackson forced to apologise again for racist slur - Telegraph




Well it appears that Jackson has been well and truely found out, he got away with the baby momma scandal..but now this? methinks he is done like a turkey at Xmas....Surely his credibity is completely shot to pieces after this latest mistake!!!

Can someone tell me why Obama has not had the same criticism levelled at him for the speech on here that Bill Cosby had when he was saying stuff similar?

I find this article in the Mail. It totally underestimates Obama's vice like grip on the black vote but apart from that I think it is ok
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The N-word and why black power could keep Obama out of the White House

By Philip Delves Broughton
Last updated at 1:46 AM on 18th July 2008

No laughing matter? The incendiary New Yorker cartoon

From the moment Barack Obama appeared on America's national political stage, he was always going to be a controversial figure.

A half-white, half-black man with the poise and rhetorical flights of a Kennedy.
A Harvard graduate abandoned by his Kenyan father to be raised by a single white mother. A man with the middle name Hussein running for the White House in post-9/11 America.

Yet, what few could have imagined was the degree of animus he would stir within America's own black community - and, in particular, its African-American leaders.

This week, it was revealed that the Rev. Jesse Jackson, for decades the dominant voice in black politics, had made an off-the-cuff remark into a TV microphone he thought was turned off that Obama was 'talking down to black people - telling n*****s how to behave'.

Jackson's remarks were prompted by a speech the Democrat Presidential candidate had made to a black church in which he dared to criticise young blacks for not completing school and being poor fathers.

'Too many fathers are Missing In Action. Too many blacks are AWOL, missing from too many lives and too many homes. They have abandoned their responsibilities, acting like boys instead of men. And the foundations of our families are weaker because of it,' Obama had said.

Jackson, a former Democrat Presidential candidate himself, has suddenly detonated the race issue which has stalked Obama's every step towards the White House. His use of the explosive N-word - commonplace among young blacks in rap music and entertainment - is extraordinary in a political context, and sent America's liberal commentators into paroxysms.

News bulletins carried warnings that viewers were about to hear a dreadful racial epithet.

Had any white public (or even private) figure used the N-word, they would have been destroyed overnight. Ironically, Jackson has made a career out of demanding the heads of anyone guilty of even the slightest racist language.
Barack Obama: Race issues stalk his every step

Barack Obama: Race issues stalk his every step

But most probably what Jackson's bitterness exposed was the paradox that it could be the black community that costs Obama the White House, not the white voters.

His remarks reveal not only his own bitterness at Obama's success but illustrate how mistrustful many older, more traditional, blacks are of Obama. They believe him an unworthy heir to their political inheritance and don't consider him properly 'black'.

The older generation trace their ancestry back to the days of slavery, and remember vividly the battles of the civil rights movement of the Sixties. Obama did not build his political career through this movement, or the institutions it spawned. He graduated from Harvard Law School and became a community organiser in a poor, black area of Chicago.

And while he makes all the right noises about the civil rights movement of the Sixties, many question whether he really believes what he says. Earlier this year, he was the only one of the major Democratic Presidential candidates who did not travel to Memphis for the 40th anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination.
Martin Luther King: Barack Obama did not attend the 40th anniversary of his assassination

Martin Luther King: Barack Obama did not attend the 40th anniversary of his assassination


This prompted a leading black professor to comment that his determination to win the White House had forced him to throw the old black guard overboard.

It was never supposed to be the black voters with whom Obama was expected to have problems. So far, his campaign has received widespread backing from them - with 90 per cent supporting him in the primary in Mississippi, while he secured only a quarter of the white vote.

There are many concerns about his character, though. His Muslim background has made him enemies. This week the New Yorker carried a cartoon on its front cover depicting him and his wife as terrorists with a U.S. flag burning in the hearth. The liberal magazine claimed the image was meant to satirise Opposition slurs on Obama and was not itself an attack, but after months of fighting off religious smears, his team failed to see the joke.

Significantly, a conservative black professor who has run for the Presidency as a Republican, explained Obama's problem is that he doesn't share the same heritage as those whose 'ancestors toiled in slavery in this country'.

And Robert Johnson, a billionaire black entertainment mogul, lampooned Obama earlier this year, comparing him to Sidney Poitier in the film Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? Poitier played a suave, black doctor dating a white woman, who forced her self-proclaimed liberal parents to face their own buried prejudices.

Johnson said of Obama's Presidential run: 'That kind of campaign behaviour doesn't resonate with me, for a guy who says: "I want to be a reasonable, likeable Sidney Poitier." I'm thinking: "This ain't a movie. This is real life."'

For these blacks, Obama suffers from being so appealing to whites. He faces the same questions aimed at Colin Powell, the former Secretary of State and son of Jamaican immigrants who flirted with his own bid for the Presidency, that he was not 'black enough'.

There are fears that he distances himself rather too readily from many aspects of black culture. For 20 years, he attended a church frequented by powerful Chicago blacks and sat through sermons by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a firebrand preacher who frequently attacked America as a racist country. Once this came out during the campaign, Obama left the church.

Indeed, Obama's comments that triggered Jesse Jackson's outburst were made to a black church in which he warned black families not to sit at home watching sport and bragging about staying at school only until they were 13.

He also told parents not to feed the children junk food. 'I know it is hard to get kids to eat properly. But I also know that folks are letting our children drink eight fizzy drinks a day.'

These thoughts echoed those of other well-known black figures, such as the comedians Bill Cosby and Chris Rock, who say many blacks do not take enough responsibility for their own problems.

Instead, they blame whites, and are encouraged to do so by leaders like Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

Obama doesn't subscribe to this victim mentality, hence the hostility of those who pose as de facto leaders of the black community.

Many Americans hope that Jackson's remarks will finally end his own decades of preposterous political grandstanding. Generations of Democratic politicians have had to suffer his self-interested claims to speak on behalf of blacks.

In 1992, Bill Clinton finally exploded when he learned Jackson was yet again shifting his support to a rival candidate. 'It's an outrage. A dirty, double-crossing, back-stabbing thing to do. For him to do this, for me to hear this on a TV programme, is an act of absolute dishonour.'

But then, Clinton wasn't black. The issue now is even more difficult, as a poll published this week revealed.

More than 80 per cent of black voters said they had a favourable opinion of him versus only 30 per cent of white voters. Sixty per cent of blacks said race relations in America were generally bad, compared to 34 per cent of whites.

Forty per cent of blacks said no progress had been made on the issue in the past ten years, versus 20 per cent of whites.

So, clearly, how you view race in America clearly still depends on the colour of your own skin.

During the primaries, a startling number of white Democrats admitted to voting for Hillary Clinton, in part because they could not face voting for a black man.

He and Republican candidate John McCain are very closely matched in the polls. If just a fraction of voters decides this election, it may be the racist fraction - or it might just be a black fraction.

Jackson tried to apologise for his words, saying: 'I am deeply saddened and distressed by the pain and sorrow that I have caused.'

But it's too late. What his illjudged words reveal is that Obama doesn't need simply to win over the white voters, but a considerable section of the black community, too.

I think you hit the nail on the head because he is known for his rhyming ability.




We must illiterate, we must enunciate, we must use the number eight.......

Jesseisms have caught up with him.....

isn't that even a breach of some fineprint in a contract to go eavesdropping on a coversation that isn't yet live, ie. outside the public domain? and why pick that part of the private conversation where he talks bullocks. why set him up in this way, because setting up is what this smells of.

as for him apologizing twice, if he cannot stand behind what he says sometimes or all the time then he has a serious personality fault, or was he blackmailed into making that apology?

I don't agree with news media using off camera shyt...but i am glad when they catch shyt like this and whites who let it slip.

any one in public life ought to know that every whisper is subject to public scrutiny. jessie was a pimp who once in a while brought light to an issue that needed to be put in the open. mostly he was a bad act that could not evolve into this centuries realism.

where will the new leaders come from? what will they be like? Obama is in a vague way setting the bar.

but obama is a politician first, half breed next and black down the list.

michelle looked past 'black' guys to this guy, what does that say about her blackness or does it matter?

Huh?

Such an interesting post. A large number of activists have had problems adjusting to a Black Movement that lost its momentum. Some went crazy such as Eldridge Cleaver who joined the Moonies and started selling ****ographic pants. Randall Robinson has given up and moved to St Kitts. Huey went to Drugs.

To understand Jessie Jackson, you have to separate the 1961 thru 1984 Jessie from the post 1984 Jackson (when he left PUSH and ran for president)

Jessie's efforts as head of the Chicago arm of the SCLC and Operation Breadbasket is heroic. Operation Breadbasket was the economic arm of SCLC and it was Jessie who brought Chicago businesses and then international businesses to their knees by organizing local, state and national boycotts if they were engaged in discriminatory practices. He didn't luck up on that. That effort and the opportunities opened to Black People would have foundered if it wasn't for Jessie.

And Jessie's education initiative with Operation PUSH (People United to Save Humanity) was crucial to lifting the self-esteem of young black children. (DOWN WITH DOPE! UP WITH HOPE!) It may sound corny now, but you don't understand the situation of the black community during that time. That's what was needed. Schools used to cancel their entire day if Jessie would come to encourage their kids.

In the late 70s and 80s many leaders had problems sustaining the energy of the Black Movement. They were left to founder. Huey Newton. Jessie Jackson. Omari Obadele of the Republic of New Africa (who is now in your State, suffering from Alzheimer).

Some adjusted. Some didn't. Jessie's Rainbow Coalition (that earned him 1200 electoral votes) is exactly the model that Obama is now following.

This doesn't excuse him. It says that neither King, nor Huey, nor Obadele, nor the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, nor Malcolm, nor Dubois, nor Garvey...were gods. They were imperfect. (I know that some of you adore Garvey....but contributing to his downfall was his alliance with the Ku Klux Klan and the language he used against other black leaders fighting the KKK).

Nothing should take away a person's legacy, especially people who stood up when most punks preferred to twiddle their thumbs. However, anyone who assumes to speak for us have to held accountable for their words...but not crucified.

I think that your use of the the term "half-breed" equals Jessie's error. It's probably worse. Especially considering the number of these brothers and sisters (starting from Frederick Douglas, Dr Charles Drew, etc) who have been instrumental in building up the black community.

I agree with some of what you said Adrianerik.

Jessie was a well respected brother in the black nation.

The white supremacists recognized what happened when they killed King was not a good thing. That was a big mistake. Had they been smarter they would have allowed an action like J Edgar Hoover was perpetrating to get at King. But the Whites hatred for how King stood up to them caused them to over step their bounds and unleashed a black movement that somewhat unified blacks all over the states. This had never happened before, in the old days the people in Calif. never knew that they were rioting in Detroit or Chicago until it was quenched and the big news was how the blacks had been handled and how much injury to us was sustained.

Nothing about what was accomplished even with the blood shed. The net works could not be controlled during the King assassination riots and it was shown as if happened and on nightly news usually with Jessie given the mike and asked by Government officials to calm things down if he could.

So Jessie and a few others but principally Jessie was the heir apparent to King and he did do some useful things. And you are correct with him being human and having needs like King he was vulnerable to vices that all humans fall prey too. I am not gigging him their. But I do think that the seriousness of the problems facing black America should have made Jessie a smarter man.

I witnessed first hand what happened to the Black Panthers in Oakland in the
70's. Huey had them on top of it. Drugs were a no no. I remember the first time I went to the LampPost (unofficial headquarters on Telegraph) and pulled out a joint I was escorted out the back and told that I was never to bring any drugs inside and allowed to take my weed back out to my car. Read the books about that time and you will see that they recognized that this was an opening that the police could use against them and it was frowned upon. I saw if first hand.

Huey got a taste of it and could it brought him down. He was acting very irrational during the last days and giving the Oakland police all the opportunity they needed to corner him. Everyone knew when he killed the young prostitute it was over for the most part. At that time the Panthers had boo coo monies and had an operation going that was solidifying the community to the nth. The breakfast program was working like a charm with the youth in the city and other programs were also successful in bring black people pride and confidence to stand and demand.

But when he had to flee, the in fighting began between Elaine Brown and others and drugs became the thing inside. The police pulled back and allowed drugs to run rampant among the BP Party and in less than two years when they came after them they had all it took to prosecute and jail all that they wanted to. The police had planted (blacks) inside. It was ugly. yes the white supremacist did it but we helped out by reckless behavior that abetted their action.

Even whites who were inside the party did not cop out like we did. The po po realized that he could do us in not by making martyrs out of us but by letting us go wide open and then arresting us and putting it all in the open. That did not work altogether well for them because at the time we were not all that trusting of the po po and when we were arrested we usually thought that it was a set up. It made heros out of them and some were not at all heros.

Jessi was a part of this. He was johnny on the spot to cry racism and white bigotry which was true in so mnay cases but at the same time many blacks who were guilty as sin were given reprieve because of Jessi. Jessi had to be affected by this and ended up thinking that this teflon feeling would alway also cover him.

I do fault jessi for knowing better and not being tighter in his business.

got to jump for a minute...more later....

Jessie should be faulted greatly! I agree. I am making the difference between 'shamed' -- which he should be -- and crucified.

I have a six-year-old godson. He is Brazilian. He's like a son since his 'sperm donor' is a piece of sh-t! Anyway, he is not allowed to act like a two-year-old, nor a three-year-old. He is six and I expect the behavior of a six-year-old.

Mature leaders like John Henrik Clarke, Ivan Van Sertima, etc, know how much they don't know. That's what involvement in the Black Movement teaches you. Ron Karenga was used by COINTELPRO to fight against the Panthers and it brings a bit of humility to him.

Jessie kinda went crazy like Cleaver, only it was more subtle. He feels that he has no peers. He is a 6-year-old acting like a two-year-old. He should be shamed for his actions.

I like to listen to people like Sonia Sanchez who isn't afraid to tell you where 'we' went wrong. Or Ivan Van Sertima who says that he was wrong about Cleopatra -- she was probably white. These are people who, with age, have submitted to the chastising power of their principles.

Others have gotten carried away with their own hype.