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17-06-05, 09:31 PM
This topic is about men's right pertaining to an unborn child. If you do not want to have a child by this man or at that time in you life. Does that man have the right to force you to carry his child to term? Men have parental rights, but when do they begin? At birth or conception?
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17-06-05, 09:57 PM
In the US, how can everyone not be pro choice on the woman and her body? I know that people will bring the bible into this, BUT if we are a country of free choice and God created us of free will, a woman has a CHOICE to do what she wants with HER body. I have always been on the fence on this issue because I can see the death caused to the unborn fetus, but the woman has to live with the consequences either way from my seemingly ignorant view point.
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17-06-05, 10:48 PM
In my view, the man has no right what so ever tomake demands on what a woman does with or to her body. Discussion is one thing, but the right to impose his will NO. The choice MUST be with the woman, after all the consequences are all hers.
Let us not forget that bearing a child as well as terminating a child has possible health consequences to the woman. A man can walk away, but a woman MUST live with the outcome good or bad for her child, her health and her body because these things are her very life.
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18-06-05, 02:21 AM
I'm Pro-Choice, after life.
If the kid grows up to be a prick or doesn't follow in your exact footstepsthen you should have the right to terminate its life, at any age.
It would work a treat if it wasn't for sensationlistlabelssuch asmurder and honourkillings.
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18-06-05, 10:01 PM
I'm definately pro-choice.
As far as I'm concerned, no man has the right to demand anything with regards to my body. No-one can force me to either terminate nor carry to term.
I'm all for discussions, but the final choice must be mine.
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18-06-05, 11:21 PM
@All I am pro choice for all the above reasons. But also against Welfare benefits of any type whatsoever for child related matters so women can take their resposiblities a bit more seriously. Don't give me high sounding morals and then low loolking behavor knowing other men eg tax payers going to pay for it.
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18-06-05, 11:25 PM
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I'm Pro-Choice, after life.
If the kid grows up to be a prick or doesn't follow in your exact footstepsthen you should have the right to terminate its life, at any age.
It would work a treat if it wasn't for sensationlistlabelssuch asmurder and honourkillings.
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I believe this thread questioned a man'sright's over an unborn child; hence his right's over the body of the woman carrying said child. So I'm not sure how the way the child grows up fits into the picture.
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18-06-05, 11:37 PM
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@All I am pro choice for all the above reasons. But also against Welfare benefits of any type whatsoever for child related matters so women can take their resposiblities a bit more seriously. Don't give me high sounding morals and then low loolking behavor knowing other men eg tax payers going to pay for it.
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You seem to be under the impression that women get pregant alone.... or do you not think a man has any responsibility for impregnation of a woman? The very fact that men can and DO walk away from their responsibilities is precisely what makes the quesition a no brainer.
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I see many women being left to take care of their children alone, but not a huge number of men. Though the number of men I meet who have several children to several women is more than I can count. Some of them a kind enough to send their child a card on their birthday , many don't know or care what happened to that child or even if if was ever born.
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19-06-05, 12:02 AM
@Noir UK I am under the impression what? No it is call having intelligence and being able to use it. With power comes responsibility. No woman on this planet would give any veto on such decisions to a man and don't blame them actually. Apply your intelligence on that principle before making daft statments.....You have the power because you have the power, because you have the power. What is there to add?
You should also have some judgement which comes with such power me thinks....About women make children alone?..Helllo trees or inanimate objects can't have discussions. But I know women you want it all ways and every ways and hence why men with half a brain should dismiss at least 60 percent of what many of you say....
It is a god given right fora woman to have a veto or final decision on her body. But goes not furhter to anything outside that my friend.
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19-06-05, 12:51 AM
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@Noir UK I am under the impression what? No it is call having intelligence and being able to use it. With power comes responsibility. No woman on this planet would give any veto on such decisions to a man and don't blame them actually. Apply your intelligence on that principle before making daft statments.....You have the power because you have the power, because you have the power. What is there to add?
You should also have some judgement which comes with such power me thinks....About women make children alone?..Helllo trees or inanimate objects can't have discussions. But I know women you want it all ways and every ways and hence why men with half a brain should dismiss at least 60 percent of what many of you say....
It is a god given right fora woman to have a veto or final decision on her body. But goes not furhter to anything outside that my friend.
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FB, I have no clue what point you're making.. I don't know confused3maybe I touched a nerve or something, butyourcomments seemto be running all over the shop with very little relation to any thing I've said.
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19-06-05, 12:59 AM
@Noir UK please come with something orignal my god touch a nerve. Damn right the boredom nerve.confused3 What I am saying is actually crystal clear and consistent and I will break it down in simple form. A woman has the ultimate right to whether she conceives or not whether the man wants it or not or terminate if he wants or not. So he is basically irrlevent because she will not give up that right. Then she has to be consistent. Not difficult is it....So you saying well it took two to make the child means nothiing does it because it is not two people's decision that counts is it?
Once you veto my wishes girlfriend it is your show from there simple as...blktrainers
Yep defintitely have touced a nerve. The irritation nerve at students who do not grasp the obvious in their face.
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19-06-05, 01:05 AM
I am only pro choice in situations such as rape or where the Baby would suffer..But damn the fools who repeat abortions like one I know who had 3..I broke my friendship wth that fool who told me his GF had had 3 abortions...... I dont care about the womens rights outside of the above situations ....THE RIGHT TO KILL JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMEN????T THis is selfish immorality They are killers pure and simple.I read recently about a clinic in Spain doing illegal ( aftfer 5 months()abortions for £4500 .It was full of Brits who had been sent there by collaberating Doctors in the UK...
AND IM NOT OVER RELIGOUS EITHER...
YES MEN SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS!!!! IT IT PURE DISCRIMINATION!!!!!! EXCELLENT TOPIC
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19-06-05, 01:18 AM
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@Noir UK I am under the impression what? No it is call having intelligence and being able to use it. With power comes responsibility. No woman on this planet would give any veto on such decisions to a man and don't blame them actually. Apply your intelligence on that principle before making daft statments.....You have the power because you have the power, because you have the power. What is there to add? YES THERE ARE MANY POWER FREAKS OUT THERE
You should also have some judgement which comes with such power me thinks....About women make children alone?..Helllo trees or inanimate objects can't have discussions. But I know women you want it all ways and every ways and hence why men with half a brain should dismiss at least 60 percent of what many of you say.... YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON ITS HEAD..MANY WOMEN JUST WANT IT ALL EVEN IF IT INVOLVES MURDER
It is a god given right fora woman to have a veto or final decision on her body. But goes not furhter to anything outside that my friend. AND A FEOTOS IS NOT A WOMANS BODY..She knows the consequences so why does she get herself into that position....
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