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Default 30-07-07, 11:19 PM

Hey Ress,

Is this picture your solution to our upliftment or your last Mother's Day card?

You posted it in another thread as well. It seems you like it? Is that what you would like all of us to do, burn ourselves up?

It's losing it's shock value . Is that the purpose of constantly showing it?


Ress is a plant who "designed" this thread to make sure that blacks don't save a cent or listen to anything of value that might help.



I don't know about anyone else but I'm going to the bank.
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Default 31-07-07, 01:40 PM

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Hey Ress,

Is this picture your solution to our upliftment or your last Mother's Day card?

You posted it in another thread as well. It seems you like it? Is that what you would like all of us to do, burn ourselves up?

It's losing it's shock value . Is that the purpose of constantly showing it?


Ress is a plant who "designed" this thread to make sure that blacks don't save a cent or listen to anything of value that might help.



I don't know about anyone else but I'm going to the bank.
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Let it be a warning.
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Default 31-07-07, 10:55 PM

Here's some information that according to King Ress you should avoid.



Suggested reading for those destined to gain Financial Independence. All available at your local library for free.


What Savvy Investors Know that You Don't by Alison Smith
An easy read for the lay person that will make you comfortable going to market.

Standard & Poor's Guide to Money and Investing by Virginia B. Morris and Kenneth M. Morris
Further easy reading to help understand and gain insight into all the vehicles offered on the market (stocks, bonds, indexes, mutal Funds, ETF's, REIT's, Risk/Returns)

Understqnding Wall Street by Jeffrey B. Little and Lucien Rhodes:
A bit more complex but very insightful, more understandable after reading the above two selections


Think and Grow Rich a Black Choice by Dennis Kimbro
If you're a go getter it will make you go get it!



Also take a look at BlackEnterprise.com better yet subscribe, they're reasonable, and every month "demonstrate" black families that have obtained financial independence thru the habit of saving and the skill of money management. It will also give you insight into investing in companies that enrich the race so that you do your part while you get yours.

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Here's some information that according to King Ress you should avoid.




Who or what is King Ress?


Please provide the links to the quotations that provide evidence of what you say about "King Ress"
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Default 02-08-07, 07:36 PM

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[size="3"]What is your understanding of 'greatness'?

How many years should one be earning a salary before this 'greatness' is made manifest?

Quote=Ladybridget

If you save $80 dollars a month this is $1000. per year, not including interest. The key to success is to be ready when your opportunity comes, whether it takes a year or ten.

Your savings are then invested. Where?

Real Estate of course. Your first investment should be where you live, not on your back , in your mouth or on your head. It is your responsibility as an adult to learn sound money management and investing. There are plenty of books and info on the internet to teach you about money, stocks, bonds (bad at this time), ETF's and mutual funds. It is your responsibility to teach it to your offspring. If you don't that again sir is on them!

Ress Quote= "Good point."


Ladybridget Quote= Some points are not debatable.

Just TAKE THE GOOD you find and whatever it is that anyone thinks I am not doing correct you make sure you do it correct.

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Do you know how the White Supremacist Racist Banks use the money that Black / Non-white people earn and save to generate interest and compound it?
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OneUnitedBank.com Offers 5.30 APY $1000 minimum investment

Self desribed as "The first black owned internet bank" and as being "committed to involvement in the urban community." Accounts are available to all persons regardless of race.

Bankrate.com
Compare interest rates and get the highest available on Money Market accounts and CD's.

Also compare rates for mortgages, home equity, auto, credit cards, checking and saving accounts, college Finance, and Insurance. Calculators to see if you're saving enough for your future.


Treasurydirect.gov

Find out about U.S. bonds and treasuries.


MSN.com
AOL.com
Yahoo.com


All have a finance or Money section which offer education and advice on saving. investing, retirement, college planning, insurance, estate planning.

BigCharts.com
Marketwatch.com

Both great for researching stock you are interested in.

Sharebuilder.com
Scotttrade
Etrade
Ameritrade


All discount brokers . Sharebuilder has trades as low as $4/ trade. They all have some research available.


DRIPS or Dividend Reinvestment Programs

Drips offer the opportunity to purchase one share of stock and thereafter you pay no transaction fees for any further purchases.


Take whatever good you find.
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Self control is key to financial independance.


A few quick rules to remember:



#1 Dont lose money

#2 Don't forget rule #l

#3 Act your wage. If you don't sacrifice you're kidding yourself.

#4 Never put all your eggs in one basket. ( Diversify to minimize losses)

#5 Have a kiddy (emergency fund), life has ups and downs

#6 Success lies in being ready when your opportunity comes.


If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

What looks like luck is preparedness meets opportunity..


Take whatever good you find.
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Did you know that the White Supremacist Racist Banks use the money that Black / Non-white people earn and save to generate interest and compound it by the abuse and killing of Black and Non-white people?


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Interest never sleeps nor sickens nor dies;
it never goes to the hospital;
it works on Sundays and holidays;
it never takes a vacation;
it never visits nor travels;
it takes no pleasure;

It is never laid off work
nor discharged from employment;
it never works on reduced hours
it never has short crops nor droughts;
it never pays taxes, it buys no food;

It wears no clothes;
it is unhoused and without home
and so has no repairs, no replacements,
no shingling, plumbing, painting, or white washing;
it has neither wife, children, father, mother,
no kinfolk to watch over and care for;
it has no expense of living;
it has neither weddings nor birth nor deaths;
it has no love, no sympathy;
it is as hard and souless as a granite cliff.

Once in debt
interest is your companion
every minute of the day and night;
you cannot shun it or slip away from it;
you cannot dismiss it;
it yields neither to entreaties, demands, or orders;
and whenever you get in its way
or cross its course or fail to meet its demands, it crushes you.

J. Reuben Clark, Jr., from Bankruptcy, The Bitter Fruit of Debt April 1938

Interest is ubiquitous. It is a tool employed by all the governments of the world. Only You can decide how this tool affects you because it's your life .




Just take the good that you find
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[quote=LadyBridget;1428883]Interest never sleeps nor sickens nor dies;
it never goes to the hospital;
it works on Sundays and holidays;
it never takes a vacation;
it never visits nor travels;
it takes no pleasure;

It is never laid off work
nor discharged from employment;
it never works on reduced hours
it never has short crops nor droughts;
it never pays taxes, it buys no food;

It wears no clothes;
it is unhoused and without home
and so has no repairs, no replacements,
no shingling, plumbing, painting, or white washing;
it has neither wife, children, father, mother,
no kinfolk to watch over and care for;
it has no expense of living;
it has neither weddings nor birth nor deaths;
it has no love, no sympathy;
it is as hard and souless as a granite cliff.

Once in debt
interest is your companion
every minute of the day and night;
you cannot shun it or slip away from it;
you cannot dismiss it;
it yields neither to entreaties, demands, or orders;
and whenever you get in its way
or cross its course or fail to meet its demands, it crushes you.

J. Reuben Clark, Jr., from Bankruptcy, The Bitter Fruit of Debt April 1938[size=4]



Nice quote:

History shows that some people decide to organise a political party and start a war instead and kill off all the people they owe money to.
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Default 07-08-07, 01:26 PM

The mysteries of private equity
By Michael Robinson
BBC Radio 4



Mr Moulton said the private equity business has been transformed in the last seven years
Private equity is the business of dealing in companies: buying them, shaking them up and later selling them on at a profit.

In recent years, private equity profits have boomed and money from institutions like pension funds has poured into the sector.

Jon Moulton, Britain's best known private equity operator, first hit the headlines in 2000 when his company Alchemy Partners tried to take over the then ailing car manufacturer Rover.

Since then, he says, the private equity business has been transformed.

"The institutions have provided the industry with funds of £10bn ($20bn) and if you've got a £10bn fund you do need to go 'elephant hunting'," he says.

"So the guys are out 'elephant hunting' and ever larger targets are being done."

Personal gain

The biggest "elephant hunter" of all in private equity is Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, better known as KKR.

This summer the giant American firm came hunting in Nottingham. Its target: Alliance Boots, the city's most famous business and Britain's biggest pharmacy.



Alliance Boots is the UK's biggest private equity buyout

KKR bought Boots for £12bn after a fierce bidding battle, and a tussle with Boots' pension trustees over a deficit in the fund.

Existing shareholders were delighted - they got a healthy windfall profit.

KKR is happy to point to the above-average returns they have already produced for its current pension fund investors, but is reluctant to talk about how much the firm's elite - the so-called "general partners" - could gain personally if the takeover proves a long-term success.

Given the political storm this year over the how much private equity chiefs earn and how much - or little - tax they pay, this raises two key questions:

What return do KKR's partners stand to make from the Alliance Boots takeover, and how does it compare with what their pension fund investors might get?

This depends on how much KKR's partners have invested in the takeover and what share of their investors' profits they are entitled to when Alliance Boots is eventually sold.




It's a very competitive environment and I need to persuade them to take my money rather than the money of another pension fund round the corner

Chris Hitchen, pension fund manager

KKR declines to answer either question, though using the best information available, the BBC has made its own rough estimate of the potential returns.

The estimate is based on a few assumptions: One, that KKR's partners have invested £80m - a number suggested at a hearing of the Treasury Select Committee.

Two, that they are entitled to a 20% share of the profits - a share common in private equity. And three, that KKR's investment in Alliance Boots would grow at 23% a year - less than the average returns KKR claims to have produced over many years.

Calm investors, concerned workers

The results are startling.

If Boots was sold after five years, KKR's investors would get back two-and-a-half as much as they had put in.



We've seen levels of gearing increase to a level where in some cases we find it irresponsible

Peter Taylor, Duke Street Capital

But, because of the effect of a 20% profit share, KKR's general partners' £80m would have multiplied 11 times.

After 10 years, the gap would be wider still, with the KKR's investors' initial stake having multiplied six and a half times, whilst KKR's general partners' £80m stake would have grown to £3.2bn - 40 times the investment we assumed they started out with.

Having seen the estimates and calculations, KKR declined to comment.

Pension fund managers have been criticised for allowing private equity operators to take such large shares of the profits from their deals.

But Chris Hitchin, who runs the massive Railways pension fund, says asking private equity managers to take less has not been an option.

"It's a very competitive environment", he says, "and I need to persuade them to take my money rather than the money of another pension fund round the corner."

So long as private equity firms make money for his pension fund's members, Mr Hitchin says he is "less concerned if some people are getting very rich."

But the general secretary of the trade unions' body TUC, Brendan Barber, is concerned about the potential level of personal rewards from a deal like Alliance Boots, which he says bear no relation to the money originally staked by the general partners.

It is, Mr Barber says, "part of this sense of ever-increasing inequality of a super-rich elite floating free from the rest of society, somehow divorced from the problems that all the rest of us face in the real world".
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