There are 2 that carry the title.



1. The biblical version of Jesus exists only inside the biblical text (e.g. and no place else, since all other references refer back to the bible/babel rather than from "other" sources) that was created by Constantine the Great and the RCC (e.g. the Roman Catholic Church created the Jesus, the Christ at the Council of Nicea in 325AD and in 451AD at the Council of Chalcedon -- whereby life was literally breathed into this fictional character).



Every single act that this fictional character initiated has/had already been expressed and practiced by the Sibyls -- women who worshiped the GODDESS loooooog before there was even a male GOD to call GOD.



2. The historical Y'usha Ben Pandira was an actual person who lived and died. He was of Ethiopian origin, you know ----A-F-R-I-C-A-N. The Egyptian Schools: Knowledge, Thought and Wisdom, were the foundation and basis of his spiritual perspective. That means he knew about the GODDESS.



.....He was a freedom fighter---a Hasmonean Maccabee, if you will.



The Hasmonean Maccabees were a religious group of freedom fighters, who by the time of Jesus (Y'shua), had been fighting the Romans for some thirteen generations. Based upon the fierceness of their fighting ability, the Maccabees had been given a name by the people which translates to "the Black Panthers". It was to this reference that the founders of the American Black Panthers looked when clarity helped them to see the police in Watts as the "same Romans" who had persecuted Y'shua and were now fronting on them (excuse me for saying so..... but clarity is a "*****").



.....He was a healer---a therapute

.....He was a rabbi---a spiritual teacher



It was this Afrikan personage that was used to create the European model that the world revers today and was also the same concept that was hand fed to our most recent ancestors, slaves. The ability to read, write and reason (e.g. by design) had long been ripped from their souls when the European bible was SHOVELED down their throats. There were; however, some who did question the lie of biblical bondage--in the form of uprisings. I am sure you are familiar with Gabriel Prosser, Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner.



There are at least 25 of various other cultures (e.g. these existed long before the biblical Christ walked thru the bible.) who were revered in their native lands as Saviors.



Jesus, The Christ is a reincarnate of these:



Adonis
Attis
Baal
Bacchus
Balder
Beddru (also spelled Beddou)
Devatat
Dionysos
Hermes
Horus
Krishna
Mithras
Orpheus
Osiris
Tammuz
Thor
Zoraster



...there are others. However, I stopped here because this response, as this post is turning into a thesis--and that's just not me, per se---a this time.



I prefer to keep it short, sweet, factual and neat!



Supreme Peace & Blessings to All
Grow as you Go



Ma'at - Hetep



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Quotes:



"in the church...the negro has had sufficient freedom to develope this institution in his own way; but he has failed to do so. his religion is merely a loan from the whites...in chameleon-like fashion the negro has taken up almost everything religious which has come along instead of thinking for himself." -- "the mis-education of the negro", Carter G. Woodson.



"Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead on to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it." -- C. Dennis McKinsey



"There is not a conception associated with Christ that is not common to some or all of the Savior cults of antiquity." --J.M. Robertson




"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" Pope Leo X."





" There is none so blind as him/her who will not see”
The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks by Randall N Robinson (Used, New, Out-of-Print) - Alibris





© Fine1952/2005-2009

Nice and concise as always Fine1952. Keep spreading your information. Quality information that can be easily researched. To be blunt your posts if collated could be formed into an excellent religious studies curricuculum for secondary school age. Just thought I'd give you your props before "you know who" decends down like a old time crusader warrior of old.

Respect and honour.

watch it bredda, she may mistake your sucking up to her and sexual harrassment....

wonder why you have commented on this misinformation before...this is a basic copy and paste....not really worthy of commenting on again...good to see someone other than me replying to her posts...

i will touch on one item since you insist...

as for ben who ever she implied was the messiah...then they missed it again because he did none of the things that they rejected Jesus for. Truth the jews of Jesus' time wanted someone to take them out of Roman domination. seems like ben who ever was a false messiah also....just wondering why she would even mention him since he failed in what they desired of Him.

Jesus was right on line with the truth of bible prophesy.

you two do make a nice pair....

maybe she will not move up the list of having replies to her inane posts bredda....stick with her she needs you....

bredda here is an example of her "quality information"



Jesus, The Christ is a reincarnate of these:



Adonis
Attis
Baal
Bacchus
Balder
Beddru (also spelled Beddou)
Devatat
Dionysos
Hermes
Horus
Krishna
Mithras
Orpheus
Osiris
Tammuz
Thor
Zoraster

i can think of a few words to use instead of quality...like asinine......

WHAT MESSIAH DID THE JEWS EXPECT?

It were an extremely narrow, and, indeed, false view, to regard the difference between Judaism and Christianity as confined to the question of the fulfillment of certain prophecies in Jesus of Nazareth. These predictions could only outline individual features in the Person and history of the Messiah. It is not thus that a likeness is recognised, but rather by the combination of the various features into a unity, and by the expression which gives it meaning. So far as we can gather from the Gospel narratives, no objection was ever taken to the fulfillment of individual prophecies in Jesus. But the general conception which the Rabbis had formed of the Messiah, differed totally from what was presented by the Prophet of Nazareth. Thus, what is the fundamental divergence between the two may be said to have existed long before the events which finally divided them. It is the combination of letters which constitute words, and the same letters may be combined into different words. Similarly, both Rabbinism and, what, by anticipation, we designate, Christianity might regard the same predictions as Messianic, and look for their fulfillment; while at the same time the Messianic ideal of the Synagogue might be quite other than that, to which the faith and hope of the Church have clung.

1. The most important point here is to keep in mind the organic unity of the Old Testament. Its predictions are not isolated, but features of one grand prophetic picture; its ritual and institutions parts of one great system; its history, not loosely connected events, but an organic development tending towards a definite end. Viewed in its innermost substance, the history of the Old Testament is not different from its typical institutions, nor yet these two from its predictions.The idea, underlying all, is God's gracious manifestation in the world, the Kingdom of God; the meaning of all, the establishment of this Kingdom upon earth. That gracious purpose was, so to speak, individualized, and the Kingdom actually established in the Messiah. Both the fundamental and the final relationship in view was that of God towards man, and of man towards God: the former as expressed by the word Father; the latter by that of Servant, or rather the combination of the two ideas: 'Son-Servant.' This was already implied in the so-called Protevangel; [a Gen. 3:13 ] and in this sense also the words of Jesus hold true: 'Before Abraham came into being, I am.'

But, narrowing our survey to where the history of the Kingdom of God begins with that of Abraham, it was indeed as Jesus said: 'Your father Abraham rejoiced that he should see My day, and he saw it, and was glad.' [b St. John 8:56] For, all that followed from Abraham to the Messiah was one, and bore this twofold impress: heavenwards, that of Son; earthwards, that of Servant. Israel was God's Son, His 'first-born'; their history that of the children of God; their institutions those of the family of God; their predictions those of the household of God. And Israel was also the Servant of God, 'Jacob My Servant'; and its history, institutions, and predictions those of the Servant of the Lord. Yet not merely Servant, but Son-Servant, 'anointed' to such service. This idea was, so to speak, crystallised in the three great representative institutions of Israel. The 'Servant of the Lord' in relation to Israel's history was Kingship in Israel; the 'Servant of the Lord' in relation to Israel's ritual ordinances was the Priesthood in Israel; the 'Servant of the Lord' in relation to prediction was the Prophetic order. But all sprang from the same fundamental idea: that of the 'Servant of Jehovah.'

One step still remains. The Messiah and His history are not presented in the Old Testament as something separate from, or superadded to, Israel. The history, the institutions, and the predictions of Israel run up into Him. [1 In this respect there is deep significance in the Jewish legend (frequently introduced; see, for example, Tanch. 2:99 a; Deb. R. 1), that all the miracles which God had shown to Israel in the wilderness would be done again to redeemed Zion in the 'latter days.'] He is the typical Israelite, nay, typical Israel itself, alike the crown, the completion, and the representative of Israel. He is the Son of God and the Servant of the Lord; but in that highest and only true sense, which had given its meaning to all the preparatory development. As He was 'anointed' to be the 'Servant of the Lord,' not with the typical oil, but by 'the Spirit of Jehovah' 'upon' Him, so was He also the 'Son' in a unique sense. His organic connection with Israel is marked by the designations 'Seed of Abraham' and 'Son of David,' while at the same time He was essentially, what Israel was subordinately and typically: 'Thou art My Son, this day have I begotten Thee.' Hence also, in strictest truthfulness, the Evangelist could apply to the Messiah what referred to Israel, and see it fulfilled in His history: 'Out of Egypt have I called my Son.' [a St. Matt. 2:15] And this other correlate idea, of Israel as 'the Servant of the Lord,' is also fully concentrated in the Messiah as the Representative Israelite, so that the Book of Isaiah, as the series of predictions in which His picture is most fully outlined, might be summarised as that concerning 'the Servant of Jehovah.' Moreover, the Messiah, as Representative Israelite, combined in Himself as 'the Servant of the Lord' the threefold office of Prophet, Priest, and King, and joined together the two ideas of 'Son' and 'Servant'. [b Phil. 2:6-11] And the final combination and full exhibition of these two ideas was the fulfillment of the typical mission of Israel, and the establishment of the Kingdom of God among men.

Thus, in its final, as in its initial, [c Gen. 3:15] stage it was the establishment of the Kingdom of God upon earth, brought about by the 'Servant' of the Lord, Who was to stricken humanity the God-sent 'Anointed Comforter' (Mashiach ha-Menachem): in this twofold sense of 'Comforter' of individuals ('the friend of sinners'), and 'Comforter' of Israel and of the world, reconciling the two, and bringing to both eternal salvation. And here the mission of Israel ended. It had passed through three stages. The first, or historical, was the preparation of the Kingdom of God; the second, or ritual, the typical presentation of that Kingdom; while the third, or prophetic, brought that Kingdom into actual contact with the kingdoms of the world. Accordingly, it is during the latter that the designation 'Son of David' (typical Israel) enlarged in the visions of Daniel into that of 'Son of Man' (the Head of redeemed humanity). It were a onesided view to regard the Babylonish exile as only a punishment for Israel's sin. There is, in truth, nothing in all God's dealings in history exclusively punitive. That were a merely negative element. But there is always a positive element also of actual progress; a step forward, even though in the taking of it something should have to be crushed. And this step forward was the development of the idea of the Kingdom of God in its relation to the world.
—Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah

Bredder Tukoma, I really appreciate all that you've said here. Thx 4 responding!:

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Christianity Before Christ by John G Jackson
The World's 16 Saviors by Kersey Graves
The Christ Myth

I once enjoyed reading mythology...but as i matured i became less enthused about lies and more gregarious for the truth. which is why i studied philosophy which lead me to God.

All the arguments of the great thinkers against there being a supreme being were rendered mute.

every one worships or believes in something, even atheists. we chose what ever we deem powerful by various and usually self enhancing reasons.