Hi everyone, I am new here, I am a 33 African American woman. Well I was watching a program last night called "Unexplained Mysteries" They were talking about the different types of black magic practiced by many people from the Caribean, Africia and Jamacia etc.. What I would like to know is if the belief and practice of voodoo in these pleases as strong as the tv program indicated it is? And do any of you believe in it or practice voodoo?blktypeblktypeblktypeblktype

@Tippy

Hi there! I did not see the program but I have to butt in here and say one thing. Voodoo is not "Black Magic". Yes it is practised by Black people but it is not in itself an evil practise. The only thing that seperates Black(evil) magic from Good magic is the Intention of the person working the juju in the first place. This has always been a sore point with me because the media and a lot of ignorant people like to equate Black people with Black magic.

A few years ago a White woman (witch) decided she had a problem with me and took her problem to the local press. The paper decided to do a feature on witchcraft and they spoke to her before coming to me. When they rang me up they asked if I would allow them to visit me, take some pictures and do a short article on me and the work I do. When I refused they told me there were allegations that I was a voodoo mamba and would I not like to take the opportunity to clear my name. This turned into a nightmare because they were so annoyed that I would not play ball, they printed stuff about me anyway. I was so upset about this because being a Black woman I was convinced that I would only be seen in a negative light. I was not beheading chickens in the back yard, merely reading cards, clearing houses of bad energy and giving energy Healing to those who needed it. Ironically the newspaper article did not finish me and my reputation...I became busier than ever. Guess everyone loves a bit of infamy!

Back to your question...yes voodoo is Alive and Thriving and always will be. I have been in contact with several people who practise seriously in London, West Midlands and Manchester. Of course its bigger still in the countries of its origin. But as far as evil goes...I;ve met people of other more orthodox religons who worry me more!

Thanks Locsgirl, so it is the black magic that is evil and voodoo per say isn't? Though it is strong here in the southern part of the US also (we called it hoodoo) I have never been believed in it or taken part in it. But now that I am maturing, I am beginning to realize that there are no certainities in life. I find myself more and more interested in voodoo or having the power to influence through a ritual act. Where is a good place to start, any books you could recommend would be appreciated.
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@Tippy

Its probably a good idea to start at the local library. That way you can find out a lot more information without having to pay out on books that might not be that interesting. The more knowledge you have about this subject the better, so you dont get fooled by anyone with immoral intentions. You do really need to be on your guard cos there are some sick people out there posing as whoever they feel you want them to be. Anything to do with the occult is even more suspect! Always Always be on your guard with anyone who maybe invites you to a meeting, ritual Anything along those lines. The Witch I mentioned in my first post was a very dangerous and manipulative woman but she fooled a lot of people because she was so well read on her subject.

I wish you luck on your quest for knowledge, it really is a fascinating subject. blkrainbowfro

blkrainbowfroLocsgirl to the rescue again. I saw when this post put out and wanted to respond but was working and did not want someone to come with white influenced ignorance early and kill what could be an interesting discussion.

Tippy just to complement my dear friend. First the terms used eg voodoo etc are very misleading. African metaphysical spritual systemss and practices are old as time. It was white Christianity as part of its civilising mission and indoctrination and role in enforcing white racism and supremacy, is respsponsible for us using confusing terms like black magic, etc.

Their is an excellent book by Prof JS Mbiti, 'African Religious Systems' that critically debunks a lot of this rubbish. Remember an essentially aspect of slave and white strategy was the systemactic destruction of core African cultural practices eg polygamy and marriage generally, indigineous languages and a range of funadamenal practices and rituals, in order to make us alienated confused and weak and at their mercy. Culture is the most powerful weapon against external domination and force, becaues it creates internal cohesion, understanding and a strong basis for collective action.

Because the white man, has never been able or will be able to destroy our culture,because it can be hidden from outsiders, or exists in our heads and more so unconciously and subconciously, unlike our land or bodies, they could not get their hands on it, so to speak.

So African spiritual/metaphyical practices have always existed in the Caribbean and Africa and I know after reading Prof Sterling Suckely absolutely brilliant study 'Slave Culture' on the African cultures of African Americans and how long it existed and influenced so much of Southern culture, it is not surprising that it still alive and kicking and we should be grateful of that.

I remember the blue's legend Johnny Lee Hooker singing about having his mojo working, which refers to African practices as mentioned above.

My parents believed deeply in the African spiritual paradigm eg metaphysical spiritual world and its powers both negative and positive. My mother in particular and that was fundamental to our up brining. For example despite going to Christian church with our father and the rest of his family. My mother never set foot in a Christian church other than her wedding and those of her friends or funerals. She thought it was the seat of all wickedness and evil.

My mother comes from a village which was essentially jet black Africans, not mixed, or having a white pressence like some and was reputed to be one of the centres of obeah and those practices in her island. In fact French Caribbean islands are reknown for their powers in that regard, with Haiti being the Mecca of the higher sciences, as they called them in parts of Jamaica.

We were not allowed to eat from strangers, or people outside very close circles, wear or exchange clothing, using people's combs, or vice versa and a whole list of do's and don't. This was protection against those who are involved in the negative aspect of the science. But it was also used for medicinal and a range of positive purposes eg communicating with ancestors and the spirit world etc.

We would attend a priest from our island who use to bless us and have us do various rituals on a relatively regular basis. Even as we speak, I have things in this house to protect my family given to me by my aunt, back home who has the powers to receive messages from the spirtual world. In fact, I have two aunts who have that power. I also have an older cousin who was taught traditional medicinal practices under one of these teachers.

If you go to Jamaica, particularly to proponent of the Pocomania religion[African based] you will find the higher sciences are well rooted and represented there, as it is Brazil in places like Bahia, Tabago part of Trinidad, which is a bastion of Yoruba culture and where they still practice things like the traditional Orishas and other metaphysical practices.

There is Guyanese Prof, Ivan Van Sertima, who did brilliant work on African Antiquity and the cultural practices of our ancients Ethiopia, Egypt etc and then followed up with powerful studies of Inca and Mayan civilisations, in his book, "They Came Before Colubus. He teaches in Columbia University, or did and he noticed that all these advanced societies with unbelievable knowledge of civil engineering, architecture and rational sciences, also had advance metaphysical systems of believes which he believed helped them in producing their miracles.

How you see a problem, shapes how you approach it. People who have advanced metaphysical knowledge, als have technology based on that understanding, and that was his thesis. All these engineering and medical marvels these people produced was based on having a wider range of knowledge both physical and metaphysical which they were able to deploy in conceptualising and then attacking the problem.

I attended one of Van Sertimas lectures in London when he returned from Haiti studying Voodoo and the metaphysical sciences of that country and some of the things he told the audience had us speechless, things he had seen with his eyes, which made things my parents had seen childsplay.

I am absolutely facisnated by this subject as I am most things related to how important things which shape our existence work. Can't tell you how my cars works, but not sure of its importance in the scheme of things and one day probably when I retire and have time, I will examine it with the attention it deserved.

But Tippy, any info you come across especially about hoodoo[or voodoo] in the US and southern states in paricular, I would love to know about, because Stirling work shows the depth of African culture in that part of the world, which fascinates me for multiple reasons.

Regarding learning about these powers, my interest is intellectual in understanding how god put this whole thing together. But in terms of being a practioner, I don't think it is that easy. First, you have to have the intrinsic skill or power which only a trained practioner will be able to ascertain. But it is more found in women and there is a very simple explanation for that which is reinforced in African cultural practices going back from dot.

Women are essentially left brain orientated for one, which makes them more intuned with a whole range of metaphysical forces eg non verbal communication, general intuition ,the fact a mother can know if her child is distress half way across the world or why more women can receive messages from spirits, all these things are related via complexity.
Wome have higher levels of paranormal skills.

I suggest those men, who have this power probably have higher left brain and feminine aspects to their spiritual character. But here is where it gets interesting, while women generally have higher levels of left brain tendencies, black people have higher levels than whites, which means our men are statiscally more likely to have this capacity.

So while people like John Edwards and these white tv personalities are men, the likelihood there are fare more black men, percentage and ration wise who have those powers. But they are black, meaning backward/primmitive and knowbody is going to give those guys prime time tv time to earn millions, when they hung and murdered us, for practicisng something we have mastered to a more higher and advanced level.

When a white professor tells us these things exist, or aliens exitst, then it will be so, but if our professors say this is the case, they are dismissed, becasue their knowledge is superior to ours. That's the game.blktype

@Locsgirl

eh eh I didn't know you was encountering those types of fooliness in your home town....now in my previous days on these forums as Black Magic



The original Black "Goddess" of Magic I would've sent that white witch that troubled you back to OZ amongst her flying monkies bighairlol

@Locsgirl and Fredblack

On a more serious note since you two seem to have more indepth knowledge on this subject I was under the impression that the word BLACK MAGIC....was the title used by the White people for blacks practising Obeah/Juju/Voodoo. As you can see many countries have different names for it and I was told that Black Magic was the name used by whites. Also to call it Black to indicate a practise done by black people and to represent it as purely evil to disassociate and not to highlight withcraft that had been practised from day dot by white people and evil witchcraft associated with satanic rituals. Can you shed anymore light on this for me niceone.gif

@Mafdet

Oh that Evil Woman was dealt with sport-smiley

I called on She who we both respect...

She was taken away by men in white coats and hospitalised for a nice long time. smoking-devil

HE HE HE!

@Stealth Black

Why would you run? So are you assuming the woman would be evil because of her faith and practise? Listen Stealth, there;s a witch in Every woman whether she know it or not. Women are Natural psychics. Ever wondered how Most women will instinctively know if you;ve cheated or lied to them? We just Know and Thats That! Women are Of the Moon...we resonate to a 28 day cycle just as the moon does. A lot of good male psychics I;ve noticed are often gay cos they got more of the female instinct going on. An angry woman can chuck out as much Bad energy (Magic) as any practioner of the Arts. An old friend of mine never forgave herself for saying she hoped her partner broke his leg after they had a very bad argument one day. He left on his motorbike, had an accident and lost a leg as a result. She didn;t practise Black Magic, she was just Very pissed off with him! So what I;m saying is you dont need to be afraid of a woman just because she practises magic.There is good and bad in all religons. The golden rule is that Bad energy will always come home to roost. What you put out will come flying back like a boomerang. If you ever meet anyone who threatens you with bad juju, they are Not the genuine article. They will destroy themselves in a very short space of time, like the evil old witch did who threatened me.

blkrainbowfroHIgh Priestess[promtion]Locsgirl said:", there;s a witch in Every woman whether she know it or not". And men have been saying this Eve and that apple? Hee hee hee(smile).smoking-devil

@Fredblack

But I;m a Good one....Honest!!!

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Fredblack, thank you for your most informative post. Wow, there is so much to learn about the practice of voodoo. I intend on looking for the book that you have recommended and I will be happy to refer you to any American books on the subject that I find. You mentioned that your mother and some other family members are really into it so have you witnessed any results from voodoo first hand? If that is too personal to comment on, I understand. Good day

Stealth Black wrote:



I could tell you some stories I don't know if you'd believe me or not but Boy they are there.

Please if you don't mine, do tell!


So I tell 'yah!' now I'd break 100 mtr records if I was around any girl who was into that ish no matter how good she looked.
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My mother doesn't practice any form of hoodoo/voodoo but she strongly believes in it and trys to avoid anyone involved with it also.

Locsgirl, thanks for your suggestions and warning. I will only be reading about the subject, I would be too uncomfortable getting involved with a group who practiced it.

locsgirl wrote:

@Stealth Black

Why would you run? So are you assuming the woman would be evil because of her faith and practise? Listen Stealth, there;s a witch in Every woman whether she know it or not. Women are Natural psychics. Ever wondered how Most women will instinctively know if you;ve cheated or lied to them? We just Know and Thats That! Women are Of the Moon...we resonate to a 28 day cycle just as the moon does. A lot of good male psychics I;ve noticed are often gay cos they got more of the female instinct going on. An angry woman can chuck out as much Bad energy (Magic) as any practioner of the Arts. An old friend of mine never forgave herself for saying she hoped her partner broke his leg after they had a very bad argument one day. He left on his motorbike, had an accident and lost a leg as a result. She didn;t practise Black Magic, she was just Very pissed off with him! So what I;m saying is you dont need to be afraid of a woman just because she practises magic.There is good and bad in all religons. The golden rule is that Bad energy will always come home to roost. What you put out will come flying back like a boomerang. If you ever meet anyone who threatens you with bad juju, they are Not the genuine article. They will destroy themselves in a very short space of time, like the evil old witch did who threatened me.



@Locsgirl

You stated a very important message in that post above BAD ENERGY WILL ALWAYS COME HOME TO ROOST. Now I am sure we all have lots of stories that we have heard from our parents that made our toes curl but sitting back and thinking it through the person that did bad always had a most frightening end to their practises or if death was the case the way they died was utterly shocking. Like quoted above my grandmother taught me only those who have physical access to you can harm you ........thats why we have the saying FAMILY can do the most damage to you because they are the ones who you have a hard time comprehending they could ever do you harm....they are the ones who have direct access to you...however sibling rivarly has been going on since day dot and the extent some people would go to is the shocking factor.blkhide