Salaam, I am not concerned with agruing the point. My only concern is that you READ and UNDERSTOOD my statement. How much credibility you give it is not my concern. You have been warned in fairness and out of Love.

The rest is up to you.

A wise woman once told me, "Make your words sweet, cause one day you might have to eat em."

RM

@Seventh Angel. still here and waiting to leave. But it does not surprise me that you do not want to explore the above, but I will when I return as you have raised issues which you now down want me to interrogate and examine.

Funny how people especially who claim religious belief are quick to say or advise people not to judge. I fear no judgement personally man or god's for that matter. But I suppose if people were sleeping with under aged children, stealing their neighbours ox or selling crack cocaine we should not judge either? When Farrahkahn makes social comments or observations, some very apt and precise he should not be judging either I suppose.

As for your tootbrush example typical NOI. As one great European historian call C H Carr once said analogy is often a trap door for the unweary so you can use all the analogies you want. They don't actually addresss the precise and specific issues in question. As for Farrakhan's foreign policy well that is a joke and case study in inconsitstency and contradiction.

But much later.

Fredniceone.gif

@matsunuma..... no i said.... mesoptamian pictograph script which led to ancient cuniform is an ancestoral source of ancient egyptian heiroglyphics.... and dont you know that cush was a land of black people!!!.. but i think your ego is getting the better of you hear.... as i said on the other thread... you post info... without an argument or factual evidence.

@fredblack........ since you seem to understand the use of root meaning then i need not further explain why arabic was perfect for the revelation as i already have. as you seem to know that root languages are inherently african then i need to repeat myself of its decendance from hamitic-semitic language trees... and as i said...any nostratic origin has not been proven.

on the point of arabs.....as i said.... ISLAM is a religion for all mankind.... spreading rapidly in many countries worldwide....... it is not an arab religion.... and yes....many arabs are good muslims...... as are many people of many other nationalities..... whether born....converted..... or reverted.

you seem to have a problem with arabs... which is your perogative..... however... while you stand there with your gun cocked..... remember that it is a black man that will most probably, rob you, kill you, murder you son, rape your wife, steal from your business and put you on drugs while being on drugs himself. only a positive. correct basis for unity will stop this and NOI, christianity, black forums and the like have done nothing whereas every other culture and race with unity have prospered.... from the asians..to the chinese... to the indians..... to the europeans..... to the russians. whereas the blacks deny their history and culture with their pent up racism and igorance toward other races and ideas..... but as i said... this is your perogative....... read a QUR'AN and see if your mind opens as ISLAM is the saviour for ALL mankind and much of the "black man" has realised this.

i was wondering were in the qu ran for those who are of the NOI does it speak of this Dr. Yacub the "God" of the White Devil?

No not really ....but please tell me about this Yacub that the NOI say White people come from

Salaam once again...

Here is a page that will pretty much size it up for you.

THE MAKING OF DEVIL

Muslimah,

My opinion is in no way my attempt to disrespect who you are or what you represent. Far as I'm concerned I love Islam and their history. Though I've never cared that much for Louis Farakhan, I will respect his views. But this is my opinion about him.

As I read and hear more and more about him, some things really bother me about him and what he represents to the Black community. First of all Allah is not a bigot or separatist., but that is minor compared to why I'm not crazy about Farakhan. Not long ago I posted my opinion, only this was about books. The one I read and compared notes about the man, the more I realized how bad he is for us. First of all,as I've previuosly mentioned, I cannot support man, who is dillusional about slavery not existing In Southern Sudan. As a result some Southern Sudanese are resentful toward Farakhan about the issue and I cannot blame them. The bad thing about his denial of the slave issue is that it has been proven that it exist. Just look on the internet , ask some of the Southern Sudanese native and they will tell you about the Civil wars and slave trade that exist in their country. That was very foolish of Farakhan to deny it.



Secondly, I cannot take him seriously as a credible leader for the Black community. Yes, he had the Million March several years ago and recently the interview with Ja rule, but seems that he's more for show than progress of the Black community. Around the world there are some leaders who laugh as this guy because he is clueless their countries politics. Some people like, Nelson Mandela didn't laugh, but got angry with this man because he felt that he was being arrogant to the South African Black poor, with his flamboyancy.Even in the states, it bother's me to know that, he and his wife are living the lap of luxury in their home out in the Chicago suburbs, while many of the young men who supports him are out in the heat , cold selling his papers(I don't know how true this is, but I was told by one guy from Marylandthat if a certain amount of thoseFC paper are not sold, they get penalized in their wallets for it.If it is true that's a shame. Hmmm, that is funny because in that book that is what Vibert White said in his book as well. Wow! Maybe it could be true. I don't know)

Like I said I love Islam. Though Farakhan is the founder of NOI, I cannot support him or the organization. I cannot support a religion that is about Racism/separatism and I definately cannot support a man, who doesn't practice what he preaches. If I wanted to be a Muslim I want the real Islam--Sunni---Islam. I would want to be around people, whether they understand it or not, who goal is to better their live with Allah and who are unified no matter what racial/cultural background they come from. I may be a Christian, but it wasn't that long ago that I wanted to be a Muslim. From the little that I learned in the masjid, some of those guys don't agree with Farakhan's politics as well as they did in the past. They don't have a Black/White/ Arab Allah. They all have the same Allah and I see it the same way.

CeeCee wrote: ...Mr. Mandela certainly doesn't appear angry with Minister Farrakhan here:

CeeCee are you under the impression that i am with the NOI because i am not. How can i support a man that claims that he is a messenger and that Allah (swt) came down as a human? Subhanallah!!!

Seventh_Angel

This is getting us no where we are on two different paths although we are both claiming to be in the same religion. I do not support the NOI and nor will i ever support them. Their views are no way islamic but i guess you will never see that you are blinded to their faults.....

I pray to Allah (swt) that you be of the guided INshallah

MySalaams