Salaam (peace) To You All Whether You Be Muslim Or Not.

I Am New To This Forum And I Am Scared Of The Things Going Around That Islam Is A Black Religion. Islam Sees No Colour And If People Truly Believe And Truly Follow The Way Of Our Beloved Prophet (PBUH) No One Would See Colour, We Would Only See Each Other As Brothers And Sisters In Islam.

In Prophet Mohammed’s Last Sermon He Clearly States That Racism Has No Part In Islam:

All Mankind Is From Adam And Eve, An Arab Has No Superiority Over A Non-Arab Nor A Non-Arab Has Any Superiority Over An Arab; Also A White Has No Superiority Over A Black Nor A Black Has Any Superiority Over A White - Except By Piety And Good Action. Learn That Every Muslim Is A Brother To Every Muslim And That The Muslims Constitute One Brotherhood. Nothing Shall Be Legitimate To A Muslim Which Belongs To A Fellow Muslim Unless It Was Given Freely And Willingly. Do Not Therefore Do Injustice To Yourselves. Remember One Day You Will Meet Allah And Answer Your Deeds. So Beware: Do Not Stray From The Path Of Righteousness After I Am Gone.


That Nation Of Islam Is In Its Self Corrupt They Have Installed Values That Do Not Have Any Relation To Islam Or To People In General. They Believe The White Man Is The Devil But This Is A False Statement The White Man Is Not The Devil. Anyone Can Become Muslim Islam Is In Itself A Open Forum For People To Discover, No One Has Any Right To Say That A White Man Cannot Come Into Islam Because He Is The Devil. blknoway

These Are Some Of The Believes Of The Nation Of Islam Which Blatantly Contradict Islam:

Islam Believes In The Total Transcendence Of Almighty God (Called In Arabic, Allah), The NOI Teaches That Black People Are Angelic Gods. Islam Maintains Universal Brotherhood; The NOI Says That Islam Is For Blacks Only. Islam Teaches That Prophethood Ended With Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, More Than 1400 Years Ago. The NOI Teaches That Farrakhan's Teacher, Elijah Muhammad, Is The Last Prophet. Islam Teaches Principles Of Spiritual And Moral Decorum Such Prayer, Fasting, Charity, Pilgrimage, Etc., Elijah Muhammad Cast These Out Or Altered Them Beyond Recognition.

The Quran Clearly States:

For Muslim Men And Women,- For Believing Men And Women, For Devout Men And Women, For True Men And Women, For Men And Women Who Are Patient And Constant, For Men And Women Who Humble Themselves, For Men And Women Who Give In Charity, For Men And Women Who Fast (And Deny Themselves), For Men And Women Who Guard Their Chastity, And For Men And Women Who Engage Much In God's Praise,- For Them Has God Prepared Forgiveness And Great Reward. (The Noble Quran, 33:35)"

No Where Is There The Mention Of A Race Being More Superior In The Eyes Of Almighty Allah. We Are All Judged In Accordance With Out Deeds If Our Deeds Be Good Then We Shall Be Of The Saved But If Our Deeds Are Bad Then We Shall Be Truly Be Of Those Who Have Strayed From The Path.

May Allah (Swt) Give Me The Strength To Act On What I Have Said And Give You The Strength To Take On Board What I Have Said. May Allah (Swt) Guide The Muslim Ummah For Who Allah (Swt) Guides No-One Can Mis-Guide Who Allah (Swt) Leaves To Stray No-One Can Guide.


[size=3]Salaam (peace)

As-Salaam Alaikum.

For anyone who wishes toknow the basic Wants and Beliefs of the Nation of Islam, please see below...

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What The Muslims Want
http://www.noi.org/program.html

This is the question asked most frequently by both the whites and the blacks. The answers to this question I shall state as simply as possible.

1. We want freedom. We want a full and complete freedom.

2. We want justice. Equal justice under the law. We want justice under the law. We want justice applied equally to all, regardless of creed or class or color.

3. We want equality of opportunity. We want equal membership in society with the best in civilized society.

4. We want our people in America whose parents or grandparents were descendants from slaves, to be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own--either on this continent or elsewhere. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to provide such land and that the area must be fertile and minerally rich. We believe that our former slave masters are obligated to maintain and supply our needs in this separate territory for the next 20 to 25 years--until we are able to produce and supply our own needs.

Since we cannot get along with them in peace and equality, after giving them 400 years of our sweat and blood and receiving in return some of the worst treatment human beings have ever experienced, we believe our contributions to this land and the suffering forced upon us by white America, justifies our demand for complete separation in a state or territory of our own

5. We want freedom for all Believers of Islam now held in federal prisons. We want freedom for all black men and women now under death sentence in innumerable prisons in the North as well as the South.

We want every black man and woman to have the freedom to accept or reject being separated from the slave master's children and establish a land of their own.

We know that the above plan for the solution of the black and white conflict is the best and only answer to the problem between two people.

6. We want an immediate end to the police brutality and mob attacks against the so-called Negro throughout the United States.

We believe that the Federal government should intercede to see that black men and women tried in white courts receive justice in accordance with the laws of the land--or allow us to build a new nation for ourselves, dedicated to justice, freedom and liberty.

7. As long as we are not allowed to establish a state or territory of our own, we demand not only equal justice under the laws of the United States, but equal employment opportunities- NOW!

We do not believe that after 400 years of free or nearly free labor, sweat and blood, which has helped America become rich and powerful, so many thousands of black people should have to subsist on relief or charity or live in poor houses.

8. We want the government of the United States to exempt our people from ALL taxation as long as we are deprived of equal justice under the laws of the land.

9. We want equal education--but separate schools up to 16 for boys and 18 for girls on the condition that the girls be sent to women's colleges and universities. We want all black children educated, taught and trained by their own teachers.

Under such schooling system we believe we will make a better nation of people. The United States government should provide, free, all necessary text books and equipment, schools and college buildings. The Muslim teachers shall be left free to teach and train their people in the way of righteousness, decency and self respect.

10. We believe that intermarriage or race mixing should be prohibited. We want the religion of Islam taught without hinderance or suppression.

These are some of the things that we, the Muslims, want for our people in North America.


What The Muslims Believe

1. WE BELIEVE In the One God whose proper Name is Allah.

2. WE BELIEVE in the Holy Qur'an and in the Scriptures of all the Prophets of God.

3. WE BELIEVE in the truth of the Bible, but we believe that it has been tampered with and must be reinterpreted so that mankind will not be snared by the falsehoods that have been added to it.

4. WE BELIEVE in Allah's Prophets and the Scriptures they brought to the people.

5. WE BELIEVE in the the resurrection of the dead--not in physical resurrection--but in mental resurrection. We believe that the so-called Negroes are most in need of mental resurrection; therefore they will be resurrected first.

Furthermore, we believe we are the people of God's choice, as it has been written, that God would choose the rejected and the despised. We can find no other persons fitting this description in these last days more that the so-called Negroes in America. We believe in the resurrection of the righteous.

6. WE BELIEVE in the judgment; we believe this first judgment will take place as God revealed, in America...

7. WE BELIEVE this is the time in history for the separation of the so-called Negroes and the so-called white Americans. We believe the black man should be freed in name as well as in fact. By this we mean that he should be freed from the names imposed upon him by his former slave masters. Names which identified him as being the slave master's slave. We believe that if we are free indeed, we should go in our own people's names--the black people of the Earth.

8. WE BELIEVE in justice for all, whether in God or not; we believe as others, that we are due equal justice as human beings. We believe in equality--as a nation--of equals. We do not believe that we are equal with our slave masters in the status of "freed slaves."

We recognize and respect American citizens as independent peoples and we respect their laws which govern this nation.

9. WE BELIEVE that the offer of integration is hypocritical and is made by those who are trying to deceive the black peoples into believing that their 400-year-old open enemies of freedom, justice and equality are, all of a sudden, their "friends." Furthermore, we believe that such deception is intended to prevent black people from realizing that the time in history has arrived for the separation from the whites of this nation.

If the white people are truthful about their professed friendship toward the so-called Negro, they can prove it by dividing up America with their slaves.

We do not believe that America will ever be able to furnish enough jobs for her own millions of unemployed, in addition to jobs for the 20,000,000 black people as well.

10. WE BELIEVE that we who declare ourselves to be righteous Muslims, should not participate in wars which take the lives of humans. We do not believe this nation should force us to take part in such wars, for we have nothing to gain from it unless America agrees to give us the necessary territory wherein we may have something to fight for.

11. WE BELIEVE our women should be respected and protected as the women of other nationalities are respected and protected.

12. WE BELIEVE that Allah(God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited "Messiah" of the Christians and the "Mahdi" of the Muslims.

We believe further and lastly that Allah is God and besides HIM there is no god and He will bring about a universal government of peace wherein we all can live in peace together.

I would really like to discuss every point with you but that I am afraid it is unrealistic.

The one point that strikes me as most frightening is that as Muslims you can believe or even attempt to believe that Allah (swt) creator of all that is in the heavens and the earth, came down as a man. Subhanallah it gives me chills just saying that let alone believing it.

As the Qu’ran makes clear

"He is God, the only One,
God the Everlasting.
He did not beget and is not begotten,
And none is His equal." (112)


(6:103), 'No vision can grasp Him.'...".

To elaborate on these statements, to be a Muslim means to believe that God is One, unique. He has no partners, no associates, no Son, nor did He ever become incarnate.

How can you argue that you believe in the Qu’ran and that which was revealed to the prophets and then say that you don’t believe that we will be resurrected. That completely contradicts the Qu’ran:

Chapter: 75, Verses: 3 & 4Man thinks that, We shall not assemble his bonesYes Truly! We are able to restore his very fingers!Chapter:

24, Verse: 24
On the day when their tongues and their hands and their feetTestify against them as to what they used to do

Chapter: 22, Verse: 7 The Hour will come there is no doubt.And God will raise those who are in the graves



One question when did God say that that the first judgment will take place in America?

Also I heard somewhere that you think that Elijah Muhammad, was a “prophet�… In the name of Allah you really are interpreting the Qu’ran to suit your own means and ends.

Does it not clearly state in the Quran which you claim to follow that:

"O people! Mohammed has no sons among ye men,but verily, he is the Messenger of Allah and the last in the line of Prophets. And Allah is aware of everything." (33:40)

I pray to Allah that you become of the guided and that you follow the right religion

And Allah (swt) knows best

[size=3][font="Times New Roman"]Many Salaams [i]

As-Salaam Alaikum, Sister...

If you wish to discuss the above point by point, feel free to email me.

RM

seventh_angel

a similar question i ask and rather you could discuss it here. you refer to prophet muhammed.

do you mean elijah muhammed, or do you mean prophet muhammed who was born in 570ad in the araibian peninsula.

also i wonder who is the current leader of nation of islam.

salaam



what relevance does that have on anything that i have asked you?

In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.

As-Salaam Alaikum...

Question #2: Why does Allah even bother to put the history of Moses and his struggle against Pharaoh in the Holy Qur'an for us to study TODAY?

If we can get to the "why" of these questions, then it will be easier to see why the Hon. Elijah Muhammad said that "We believe this first judgement will take place, as God revealed, IN AMERICA."

This is a very DEEP subject, and cannot be fully explored in a few sentences. It will take time and patience.

RM

Can you not just tell me???????????? Where in the Quran it says that the first judgment will take place in American or where Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) has said the same thing these are the only 2 mediums that i follow and understand. If you are telling me that by God you mean this guy that has said he is god then i dont wanna know cos that is shirk and what does Allah (swt) say about shirk:

Verily, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with him in worship, but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin [Al-QUR'aN Surah:4:48]

I am for the nation of Islam in terms of them being very pro-black and spreading the word of Islam. Though reading Malcom X autobiography by Alex Healy I have many reservations about how they are using Islam for opportunism and the image created by Elijah Muhammad as though he is some kind of pope I oppose extremely. The Nation is a very secret organisation so what they do is their business but as long as they engage in constructive teaching of Islam and black issues then good luck to them.