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@ chinkiie
i find it hilarious that you talk about christians causing slavery.yes they may have when the white christian took it upon themselves to do this.but at the end of the day the bible does not promote slavery.it was the people not the religion.
however i on the other hand have read the koran which does talk about slaves.it also talks about what you as a muslim are allowed to do with your slave and love slaves which is a joke.could the real god really promote this?i think not.
if you have read the koran i am sure you know what i am talking about.if not just ask for the references.
i actually went through this point with my uncle who is a muslim and couldnt argue against this as it was there for any one to see about the koran and rules what a muslim may and may not do with their slaves.
i ask every1 get a translated copy of the koran with a reference page/index and look at slaves and find the references for yourself.i ask all christians to do this as im sick of muslims gunning us about christianity when their religion is far from perfect.
also if you do get a copy look up under jews and christians and read the racism in this book.
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A lot of you are saying the foundation for christianity was established in Africa. To that I would say how.....

What did they called it when Yahshua walked the earth, and what were the people called who followed him....They were not christians because he was not called the Christ he was called the Mashiah(spelling) which means anointed one. Christ is a translation of the Greek word Kristos. I believe that Issa21 explained it on a previous post. The bible should be studied in it original form or something close to it to get the ture meaning. They didn't even call it a religion, that word is translated as superstition in the bible. Chinkkie said it best in hisinitial post.
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Why do so many Black people follow Christianity?

Because European based Christianity was forced upon us in the Americas. In the Carribean. And in Africa.

Africans did not willingly take on the worship of a white Jesus.

Africans did not willingly take on the concept that their ancient ancestor was cursed by God as penance for some wrong.

Africans certainly did not willingly support the worship and adoration of a people who are not even Black (the Jews)

The Africans who came off the slave ships were not Christians. Maybe some were muslim but certainly not Christians.

But we swallowed the myth that our original beliefs were backward and primitive. I bet some Christians are even glad because of slavery. Or they would never have "seen the light".

They might as well be still chopping cane on the plantation.

Thats why nothing good has come of it. Look at Jamaica. More churches per square mile than most places in the world. WTF does that do for Blacks over there. Apart from keep them hand clapping and hoping for a better life in some fairytale heaven.

Anyway getting sick of saying this. Like alot of things.

Black people are still Christians because we are still slaves. Bottom line. How many Black people even know about the Coptic church. A christian church that existed before the first European ever set foot in the continent.

Nah not interested. No white man to tell you that its right.

Got that out of me. IFeel better now.
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thats true wat has been written above.i dont understand why more black people follow the original churches of the coptis eastern christians like the ethipian/syrian churches etc.not only are they more likely the true forms of christianity not changed from when the disciples taught it to the people there but it wont have been distorted by the white man showing a white christ.if you look at the pictures of christ from these churches they show a brown man with large curls in the hair not the blonde blue eyed man most catholics and other western christians follow.
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i believe they were actually called nazarities or something similar as thats what the ethiopian churches and syrian coptic churches called its members before the word christ came out.
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@geeg

one question

you are a christian asian, so what religion was asians before they got forcefully converted to christianity?

exactly my point.

No one is saying Islam is perfect, or christianity, or judasim

but to imply what you written above raises eye brows

especially for someone who claims to have muslim friends and a muslim uncle.

maybe you should be careful what you post previously, people like me tend to do research on members posting history.


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i believe they were actually called nazarities or something similar as thats what the ethiopian churches and syrian coptic churches called its members before the word christ came out.
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That's not true, not all Nazarites believed in Yahweh there was some who thought that Yahshua was not the son of Yah...
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And there were no such things as churches, church is a mis translation of the Greek word Ekklasia which means the called out ones or to be called out. The word christ or kristos has long existed even before Yahshua had come it was never applied to one person or a group until then. They actually began to call them that to poke fun at them. christianity is not a true faith.
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erm to sooofresh i have nothing to hide
even my uncle knows my veiws why shud i hide it.i go to islamic lectures.i am a christian and yes i know that its not a perfect religion but for a muslim to talk about christianity leading to slavery is wrong especially when the koran mentions it.i live with my best mate who is nigerian muslim and a pakistani who is muslim and a black christian and hindu.we all talk openly i aint gona hide or write it in a different way.
the answer to your question is the indians were hindus.why ask anyway what relevance is that?
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churches are not a mispresentation.for examole where i come from st thomas the doughter came and set up churches as soon as he converted.before churches there were prayer meeting in houses as christians were persecuted so they couldnt openly pray.
thats the first time i heard that nazarite did not beleive in jesus as we are still called that term in the orthodox coptic churches.where did you get the info that not all nazarities did not beleive?i would like to know.
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Post imported post - 17-12-04, 10:56 AM

@mansamusa...

very good points...

@All

All that I can say in addition is that the African Religion was monotheistic...it was not Christianity...

and a great deal of this argument is covered in the bookclub choice the Destruction of Black Civilisation...which explains how both western and asian religions came to be in Africa...



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churches are not a mispresentation.for examole where i come from st thomas the doughter came and set up churches as soon as he converted.before churches there were prayer meeting in houses as christians were persecuted so they couldnt openly pray.
thats the first time i heard that nazarite did not beleive in jesus as we are still called that term in the orthodox coptic churches.where did you get the info that not all nazarities did not beleive?i would like to know.
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Actually it is, the word Ekklasia was a representation of the people not a building. The church is a representation of religion and it many types. Before the bible was translated the word was not in it, and even in some of its earlier translations it is not in them either....Even though they had meetings in houses and in caves or in secret they never called it a church or going to church.
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In the scripture below you will see that not al of the people of Nazareth were believer in the Mashiah.
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Matthew 13:54
He came to His hometown and began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?

Matthew 13:55
"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?

Matthew 13:56
"And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"

Matthew 13:57
And they took offense at Him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own household."
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So you see even though he was from Nazareth he was not accepted by everyone.
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im sorry maybe i am not making myself clear-i was never good at typing,but you have misunderstood me.

i dont dought that every1 didnt accept jesus or his apostles etc-i dont disagree with that at all.

but 1 where did you get the info that nazarities did not believe in jesus?

2 how are churches a misrepresentation when a apostle himself built them himself?


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im sorry maybe i am not making myself clear-i was never good at typing,but you have misunderstood me.

i dont dought that every1 didnt accept jesus or his apostles etc-i dont disagree with that at all.

but 1 where did you get the info that nazarities did not believe in jesus?

2 how are churches a misrepresentation when a apostle himself built them himself?

Geeg,
And you must have misunderstood me also. I said that not "all" of the Nazarites believe in the Mashiah, some did but some did not and that is right there in the scriptures I posted before.
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And like I said about the churches, the Apostles did not build a church they built bodies of believers they were speaking about the people not a building. When he said that he was going to Corinth to build an Ekklasia, the word Ekklasia was translated as church, when it shoud have been tranliterated. There is a big difference in the two.
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