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Maybe you would like to justify these?
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"[T]he Prophet (Muhammed) married her (Aisha) when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)."
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64)
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actually in that era amost of brides where under 15 yrs old ie king henry had young below 16 yrs of age wivesso your point isetc so this was seen as the norm.
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"Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet (Muhammed), and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me."
(Hadith: Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151)
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"Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle (Muhammed) said to me, 'What type of lady have you married?' I replied, 'I have married a matron'. He said, 'Why, don't you have a liking for the young virgins and for fondling them?' Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, 'Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?'"
(Volume 7, Book 62, Number 17)
again my sister read the koren and this is nowwhere to be read, you made it all up how low can you go

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Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
same as above, where did u learn that from?


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Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet (Muhammed) said: Allah created Adam when he created him. Then He stroke his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don't care."
(Hadith, Mishkat ul-Masabih, translated by Karim, v. iii, p. 117)

oh my gosh this is a worry! none of this is written in the koran, u obviously is trying to start a hate campaign, shame on you infidel!


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"Narrated 'Umar: I came and behold, Allah's Apostle (Muhammed) was staying on a Mashroba (attic room) and a black slave of Allah's Apostle was at the top of its stairs. I said to him, '(Tell the Prophet) that here is 'Umar bin Al-Khattab (asking for permission to enter).' Then he admitted me."
(Hadith, Sahih Bukhari 9:91:368)


"The Prophet (Muhammad) said: 'Do not stone the adulteress who is pregnant until she has had her child.' After the birth she was put into a ditch up to her chest and the Prophet commanded them to stone her. Khalid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and he cursed her. The gentle Prophet prayed over her and she was buried."
(Hadith No. Muslim 682)

thats true, but then the christians used to drown women to see if she is a witch or not hmmmm again ur point?

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Those who resist Allah and his messenger (Muhammed) will be humbled to dust."
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(Koran 58:5)

"This is the Hell which the Sinners deny: / In its midst and in the midst of boiling hot water will they wander round!"
(Koran 55:43, 44)
my sister agrees that this part is true and does exist in the koran, but then so what, that is a belif that is held with muslims

"The unbelievers among the People of the Book (Christians and Jews) and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures."
(Koran 98:1-8)
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again you added christians and jews urself, but the pagens bit it is true .
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"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'"
(Koran 22:19-22:23)

"For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place."
(Koran 18:28-30)


yep true its called hell
"Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God (Allah) turn away from the right path ? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell."
(Koran 40:67-40:73)
yep true its called hell
"...The unbelievers shall endure forever the torment of Hell. The punishment will never be lightened, and they shall be speechless with despair. We do not wrong, themselves."
(Koran 43:74)

"...That is the Hell which the unbelievers deny. They shall wander between fire and water fiercely seething. Which of your Lord's blessing would you deny?"
(Koran 55:41-52)

"For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire..."
(Koran 76:1-5)

"We have in store for the unbelievers heavy fetters and a blazing fire, choking food and harrowing torment: on the day when the earth shall quiver with all its mountains, and the mountains crumble into heaps of shifting sand."
(Koran 73:12 )

"Woe on that day to the disbelievers! Begone to the Hell which you deny! Depart into the shadow that will rise high in three columns, giving neither shade nor shelter from the flames, and throwing up sparks as huge as towers, as bright as yellow camels...Eat and enjoy yourselves awhile. You are wicked men..."
(Koran 77:20-77:50 )
yep true its called hell



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again i have not denied that muslims believe in heaven and hell, and those who worship false idols eg statues and witches are pagens in the islam religion will go to hell and ur point is??





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actually in that era amost of brides where under 15 yrs old ie king henry had young below 16 yrs of age wivesso your point isetc so this was seen as the norm.
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Slavery used to be the norm, so why do so many people moan about it?
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again my sister read the koren and this is nowwhere to be read, you made it all up how low can you go.

Denial. Have you read the Koran?, no but you believe it anyway. You'll go far won't you. especially if you're lead.


same as above, where did u learn that from?

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18. Type that into the net and see what you find. I know you won't though because you can't handle being wrong. You automatically accuse me of making it up. Believe me mate, I don't care about you or anyone wandering around believing in anything out there. It makes no difference to my life or afterlife for that matter.




oh my gosh this is a worry! none of this is written in the koran, u obviously is trying to start a hate campaign, shame on you infidel!

(Hadith, Mishkat ul-Masabih, translated by Karim, v. iii, p. 117)

Again type that into the net and see what you find.


thats true, but then the christians used to drown women to see if she is a witch or not hmmmm again ur point?

My point is that it's not a peaceful, respectful or decent religion. NONE are if they can be used to justify war. They would be 100% perfect, which no human could find fault in. Unless you want to base your life and construct your mind around imperfection then go ahead really go ahead and see what you find in the world around you..

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again you added christians and jews urself, but the pagens bit it is true .
So what book is it?, Oh yes, the Torah. Man are you completely thick?
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yep true its called hell
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Nope it's the human imagination, easy to control using fear imagery, especially from a young age.
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My point is that it's a primitive religion like with the rest of them out there, and that they have all tookhumanity far enough, and now it's time to move on, and make the world a better place, instead of blindly believing in pure nonsense. Which simply isn't needed anymore, but m
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aybe you like to see people suffering in the name of religion though, so enjoy it.
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Interesting to see that you and your sister are the same person isn't it.
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Peacemaker dont worrymy sis said she will pray for u and all the other infidels, cause believe me hell aint no joke, what u tink it is a 5yr jail sentance, you will burnnnn baby burnnn, best u enjoy ur life, go and pull a girl, have a one night stand, drink urself silly , deny that allah, or god exists cause when judgement days come boyyy i fell sorry for u.blkbrukteet
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nativeson to answer ur question actually i am looking to convert into islam


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Peacemaker dont worrymy sis said she will pray for u and all the other infidels, cause believe me hell aint no joke, what u tink it is a 5yr jail sentance, you will burnnnn baby burnnn, best u enjoy ur life, go and pull a girl, have a one night stand, drink urself silly , deny that allah, or god exists cause when judgement days come boyyy i fell sorry for u.blkbrukteet
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nativeson to answer ur question actually i am looking to convert into islam
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And keep thinking like that mate, you judge yourself. And even Jesus who I don't believe in said that. You don't know yourself, so you don't know what's judging you, you automatically think it's some divine being, far from it mate.
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Even ifI believed in hell I wouldn't take pleasure in other people's suffering in hell Sooofresh, I really wouldn't. Thankfully I didn't need religion to teach me them sort of morals, which you obviously lack..and really if you enjoy the idea of someone suffering in hell, then my point about Islam being a savage religion is infact correct, since people like you would certainly enjoy the idea of someone suffering in life too. Hence why some Muslims not all of them, but some a good percentagehave no regard for other people's lifes.
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One other thing, no fire in hell or heaven chap, no oxygen you see, nothing can burn it's not possible. But if you're inside your own imagination, like when you dream at night, oh yes things can burn. Guess who's doing your thinkingusingthe imagination?. It's not me is it, it's not god either. But hey maybe Heaven and Hell is infact a state of mind.

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. Hence why some Muslims not all of them, but some a good percentagehave no regard for other people's lifes.
thankyou for finally seeing past ureratic hatredthat NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL

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One other thing, no fire in hell or heaven chap, no oxygen you see, nothing can burn it's not possible. But if your inside your own imagination, like whenyou dream at night, oh yes things can burn. Guess who's doing your thinking withthe imagination?. It's not me is it, it's not god either.



eh wat on earth are u on aboutconfused2 are u the SHAYTAN
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Even ifI believed in hell I wouldn't take pleasure in other people's suffering in hell Sooofresh, I really wouldn't.
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only those who commited sin will go to hell u idiot not everybody dohh, so if someone killed a 5yr old child in this life then that person deserves to go to hell end off story and i will take pleasure



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thankyou for finally seeing past ureratic hatredthat NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL
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This is why I said some and not all, butI can't help your selective reading. Entertaining the idea of someone burning for eternality is evil. Thought is tantamount to action.

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eh wat on earth are u on aboutconfused2 are u the SHAYTAN
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It's too advanced for you to understand, you have a primitive mind you see..

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