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Does anyone here practice ATR?



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Does anyone here practice ATR?



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well do you?


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Does anyone in this forum?

If you judge it on the threads created in the spirituality forum it would seem about 1.5%..even less.. do practice non Islamic or Christian religion.

Or is it just shyness?
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Does anyone in this forum?

If you judge it on the threads created in the spirituality forum it would seem about 1.5%..even less.. do practice non Islamic or Christian religion.

Or is it just shyness?
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So what do these 1.5% practice and what does it involve?
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Few years ago a torso of an african boy was discovered on river Thames, apparently this had connection with certain forms of ''African spirituality''. I have tried to reconcile sacrificing babies with spirituality and i am having problems understanding. Can somebody tell us about the rituals involved and what they represent rather than Myths of the past. As much as the past is important it is usually the present which has direct effect on us.
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We keep hearing about how evil Islam and christianity has been to the black spirituality. Why aren;t these very people who have been bashing islam and christianity come forward and tell us what their way has to offer hummanity?


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031.021
: And if it be said unto them: Follow that which Allah hath revealed, they say: Nay, but we follow that wherein we found our fathers. What! Even though the devil were inviting them unto the doom of flame?


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But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a Humiliating Penalty.





Nigeria shrine yields more bodies







Nigerian police say they have found a further 33 bodies in addition to the 50 already uncovered in fetish shrines in south-eastern Anambra state.
A traditional cult reputed to carry out ritual killings is thought to have carried out the murders.
Some of the corpses had hands, genitals or heads missing.
Police have displayed skulls - and five men of the 30 or so people arrested in connection with the murders - to correspondents in the capital, Abuja.
'Parallel court'
"Police are concerned about how the headless bodies found their way into the shrines," said deputy police chief Sunday Ehindero.
However, a spokesman for those arrested denied any involvement in the killings.
"Since I have been there, for two years, I have not seen anybody killed by these people. Rather, the shrines kill," said Collin Obi.
He said bodies had been brought to the Okija shrines by family members.
Mr Ehindero said groups involved in disagreements had gone to the shrines to take part in black magic rituals.
"What we are saying is that we found there is a parallel court," he said.
Police found the shrines after being tipped off by a local villager in Okija who reported the priests had eaten the flesh of some of their victims.



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I am having a growing interest in the Orisha Oya.


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What is Orisha oya?


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Some goddess of wind.
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Dont know where you got your info from but thats by the by.

So you take a case in Nigeria and try to use it to justify how "primitive" and wrong African religion is. In favour of your Arabic masters.

What about fundemental Islam. What about the killings that happen in the very Nigeria you speak where Christians are pitted against Muslim. How about the many Africans that still praise a white Jesus or believe only a Arab was the chosen messenger/prophet of God. How about the fundemental Christians that burned down Waco. How about Christian Missionaries and the harm they done. Sharia Law?

What traditional African religion will offer Africans who dont practice it/

1) The non worship of other cultures. And the promotion of their own.
2) Stop the degregation of African languages that are not considered pure or true enough to speak of the Creator.
3) A political view and law that is based on African concepts of civilisation. Not foreigners.

Now the majority of Africans who went to the Carribean did not practice Islam. Neither Christianity.

So is your view the Africans were just barbaric heathens that werent blessed wholesale to know Islam or Christianity. West Africa was Islamized. And that was about it. And only the ruling classes at that.

You may believe that Africans were backward cannibals that murdered their children wholesale and had no valid religion.

Tell that to the sufferers in Haiti. They might just obeah your disruptive spirit out of town.

Those who sacrifice humans for religion are obviously wrong. As misguided as stoning a woman to death for adultery. Or the mad Christian cults that spring up every day.

And please dont quote Allah/Koran to me.

And its obvious you do not understand the purpose of mythology. Nah it has to be in fancy book to be a "true" religion. Revealed by a non African prophet.

Typical Eurocentric thinking.

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Insidious is the word. To me it comes down to the slow drawn out process that Africans worldwide have been led to believe/ and through ignorance/ that anything born and bred and concieved by Africans in Africa is no good. A cultural inferiority complex.

This spans across many things. Names. Religion. Dress. Education. Systems of Government. Other cultures are under this insidious attack also. But not to the degree historically Africans faced. This is the biggest barrier to our progress I feel. The battle of the African mind. But there is a slow/fast erosion of traditional African culture today. Ive seen it myself when ive been to the continent. When I am invited into a house within Africa and see a white Jesus on the wall my heart gets that sinking feeling.

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@FlowUnclever

Dont know where you got your info from but thats by the by.

So you take a case in Nigeria and try to use it to justify how "primitive" and wrong African religion is. In favour of your Arabic masters.

What about fundemental Islam. What about the killings that happen in the very Nigeria you speak where Christians are pitted against Muslim. How about the many Africans that still praise a white Jesus or believe only a Arab was the chosen messenger/prophet of God. How about the fundemental Christians that burned down Waco. How about Christian Missionaries and the harm they done. Sharia Law?

What traditional African religion will offer Africans who dont practice it/

1) The non worship of other cultures. And the promotion of their own.
2) Stop the degregation of African languages that are not considered pure or true enough to speak of the Creator.
3) A political view and law that is based on African concepts of civilisation. Not foreigners.

Now the majority of Africans who went to the Carribean did not practice Islam. Neither Christianity.

So is your view the Africans were just barbaric heathens that werent blessed wholesale to know Islam or Christianity. West Africa was Islamized. And that was about it. And only the ruling classes at that.

You may believe that Africans were backward cannibals that murdered their children wholesale and had no valid religion.

Tell that to the sufferers in Haiti. They might just obeah your disruptive spirit out of town.

Those who sacrifice humans for religion are obviously wrong. As misguided as stoning a woman to death for adultery. Or the mad Christian cults that spring up every day.

And please dont quote Allah/Koran to me.

And its obvious you do not understand the purpose of mythology. Nah it has to be in fancy book to be a "true" religion. Revealed by a non African prophet.

Typical Eurocentric thinking.
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Question1: Do you practice any African religion?
Question2: What does your practice involve?
Question3: What is your religious belief?
From what i have seen of African religions it involves human sacrifices, digging up graves of people who died 40 years ago, drinking blood from freshly slaughtered cows, using juju to inflict harm on your enemy etc. Now teach me otherwise, I have lived in Africa and this is what I saw.

Before you go about telling other people off let us hear what you stand for.


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Yay for Islam, and it's humane ways.
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