Justavoice,

If I were going to construct a religion which had an End of Days as part of the dogma, I'd state that people would scoff at it to. You know why... b/c people would scoff. By stating the obvious, it gives a work a more prophetic feel to it. For example, I could create a religion that says that the end of the world will come to pass in 20 years due to a violent invasion of invisible pink unicorns, and one sure sign of this ending would be that noone would believe the "prophets" who foretell this doom. And exactly what situations and occurances are alkrming scientists?

Iolite,

Jesus prophesied that the temple of Solomon which he stood in would be destroyed. It was destroyed.

Now your argument for that will be, buildings get destroyed, he is stating an obvious.

my argument, the pyramids have lasted the test of time, wars have come and gone, and the pyramids stand. So not all buildings get destroyed.

Jesus was pinpoint on certain things he spoke.

One of the signs of the end-time, is Israel re-building the temple. Hence the escalating fighting in Israel. other things are happening to over there, but if you don't believe in God, it will seem trivial. They are happening though regardless of your rhetoric, and despite you sounding well grounded because you speak how society as moulded you to think. In this technological age, why would you believe in a God.

I watched a programme where scientist that measure the weather, and global warming and all of that, and i'm know weather expert, just a simple child of God. But seeing you believe the scientists word, they are saying the hurricanes we are seeing, the floods are a result of the global warming. This is a new occurance and this falls in line with Jesus prophecy. However if you don't believe in prophecy, and you think all things come down to what men in white jackets say, or you don't believe it till then, God will make these men say what as been written from thousands of years back.

This scientist said look for calamities in the near future.

where your argument falls through for me, is that floods were not something happening on the scales they are happening now, so when these men prophesied, they were being scoffed at while they probably wrote down what they believed. Ink still wet and people laughing. You see, they weren't spraying aerosol cans, they weren't chucking up smoke into the atmosphere from there sheep factories, fishermens boats did not run on Oil that burned and sent up carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

So I don't believe that they were seeing the type of weather we see now.

good God, the UK is having lovely summers, and hardly any winters again.. but still the unbeliever refuse to see it as a sign.

You speak of dogma and my friend you sound intelligent, good for you, i will stay hear and sound like the fool for God, but I have experience of God for myself, i don't even need the signs. The signs are for you guys and still you can't see. God is allowing your scientist to now see what we long time know is coming through faith in God, so that you will be convinced and turn to him.

My Brother or Sister Jesus Christ is coming, the tsunami and world events are prophesied. The European Eunion is will bring rise to the unti-christ (devil worshipers). But because Jesus is alive we will be delivered and we shall rule and reign with Jesus. Keep the faith the time is near. Read Luke 21v25.

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Kevin:
European Eunion is will bring rise to the unti-christ (devil worshipers). But because Jesus is alive we will be delivered and we shall rule and reign with Jesus



Yet another knuckle-head American televagelist conspiracy theory proposed.


I asked Innocently to provide scripture for her claims about National ID cards being a sign of Judgement...and she couldn't provide them.

So if I asked YOU for scriptural evidence of the European Union being a sign of Judgement or that the anti-christ will arise from it.....you wouldn't be able to either would you?



Silly negros sit up and watch these racist white overly-patriotic republican televagelists lie all day long and suck up every word they say.



One World Government is evil?

Bull shit....where in the bible does it say this?

HOLD UP HOLD UP NO NEED TO GET RAUDDDDDDDDDDDYY!!

[align=left]And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...and his number is Six hundred & sixty-six. (Rev.13:15-18) [/align]
[align=left]666! The Mark of the Beast! Almost everybody has heard something about this prophecy which says that in the last days no one will be able to buy or sell anything unless they get the "Devil's mark". Today we are the first generation with the technology available to fulfil such a prophecy of a "cashless" society. For instance, every item in my shopping basket is barcoded with its own personal identification number. [/align]
[align=left]You may have noticed that this Revelation 14:9,10)[/align]
That may seem like pretty stiff punishment for simply accepting a Mark that allows you to buy groceries. However, this prophecy indicates that receiving the "Mark of the Beast" is not merely an economic decision, but also implies acceptance and worship of the Satan-possessed Anti-Christ, and a pledge of allegiance to his anti-God global regime. clp)



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the end of the world is probly 100 years away or probly 30 it depends on when the war will start which will start soon defintly in 10 years i think

the main war the last war there eva will be dajjal worshippers against muslims

dajjal worshippers are people such as Bush BLairand people inIsraeil as you can alwasy see in da news there aint no peace just beef and most of it iz propaganda

in da quran it meantioned many signs of day of judgment

wimen will not dress properly they'll be revealing their body outside

wimen will be rude and not look after there husbands

people will start to lie more

people will start doin more bad things

as you can see these things are already happenin

wimen will be rude and not look after ther husbands ( I not sure how many countries that has started in but defintly in London especially white, light skin girls)

the end of the world is probly 100 years away or probly 30 it depends on when the war will start which will start soon defintly in 10 years i think

the main war the last war there eva will be dajjal worshippers against muslims

dajjal worshippers are people such as Bush BLairand people inIsraeil as you can alwasy see in da news there aint no peace just beef and most of it iz propaganda

in da quran it meantioned many signs of day of judgment

wimen will not dress properly they'll be revealing their body outside

wimen will be rude and not look after there husbands

people will start to lie more

people will start doin more bad things

as you can see these things are already happenin

wimen will be rude and not look after ther husbands ( I not sure how many countries that has started in but defintly in London especially white, light skin girls)

Justavoice wrote:
That's not terribly surprising, when you consider the history of the area. Jerusalem and other parts inhabited by the Hebrews have been held under seige and razed many times over. That's like me saying there will be a tornado in Florida and you'll see trailer homes flying about--it's happened before, and given the circumstances will most likely happen again. Most of the pyramids are complex and immense, and would take some serious heavy artillary to destroy all of them. Egypt wasn't a whipping boy back in the day, unlike the Hebrews...they didn't have tons of people destroying them time and again.


Self-fulfilling prophecy and logic. The Hebrew people, like any culture, want to believe that their sufferings are not in vain, and that they as a group would rise again. The Jews have been kicked around for millenia (does anyone else think it funnt that they have a unique ability to piss off the host populace WHEREVER they go....they should take a hint) which have made them a very strong and cohesive unit. part of this cohesion comes from a commong belief system, which states that one day they will return to thei "promised" lands and rebuild the temple. Of course, once they had a chance to return to Israel (or go to Israel, depending on your views) it was only natural that they'd want to fulfill this "prophecy".

That's a good question. Seizures, disease, natural disasters...all these things we once needed to explain using the supernatural, mostly because the tools of discovering such things were not available at that time. Just about anything in the Bible (or any holy book, for that matter) can be explained using logic or science. With the knowledge to understand the world around us, and that knowledge exponentially increasing, we really don't need any gods.

[quote]I watched a programme where scientist that measure the weather, and global warming and all of that, and i'm know weather expert, just a simple child of God. But seeing you believe the scientists word, they are saying the hurricanes we are seeing, the floods are a result of the global warming. This is a new occurance and this falls in line with Jesus prophecy. However if you don't believe in prophecy, and you think all things come down to what men in white jackets say, or you don't believe it till then, God will make these men say what as been written from thousands of years back.

This scientist said look for calamities in the near future.

where your argument falls through for me, is that floods were not something happening on the scales they are happening now, so when these men prophesied, they were being scoffed at while they probably wrote down what they believed. Ink still wet and people laughing. You see, they weren't spraying aerosol cans, they weren't chucking up smoke into the atmosphere from there sheep factories, fishermens boats did not run on Oil that burned and sent up carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

So I don't believe that they were seeing the type of weather we see now. [quote]

True, global warming is a huge problem, but I don't see how this natural occurence is proof positive of the Last Days. I have actually read the Bible--the whole thing, not just the good parts like most Christians--and IIRC, there was a passage in Revelations that told of the moon and the river turning to blood. When this happens, let me know. BTW, exactly what is the passage that says that natural calamities will be part of the Final Days? I'd like to look that over.

Funny, but when I read the passages about Jesus speaking of the Last Days, I had the distinct impression he was preaching that the world woul end within the lifetime of those present. Now that I am rereading some of these passages, the so-called predictions are so general that they could apply to any time in human history! Nation will rise against nation, there will be sickness, pestilence, flood, etc... When hasn't this stuff happened?

Innocent:

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name...and his number is Six hundred & sixty-six. (Rev.13:15-18)


666! The Mark of the Beast! Almost everybody has heard something about this prophecy which says that in the last days no one will be able to buy or sell anything unless they get the "Devil's mark". Today we are the first generation with the technology available to fulfil such a prophecy of a "cashless" society. For instance, every item in my shopping basket is barcoded with its own personal identification number.


You may have noticed that this Revelation 14:9,10)

That may seem like pretty stiff punishment for simply accepting a Mark that allows you to buy groceries. However, this prophecy indicates that receiving the "Mark of the Beast" is not merely an economic decision, but also implies acceptance and worship of the Satan-possessed Anti-Christ, and a pledge of allegiance to his anti-God global regime

blkwonder



Juvenile said: Girl Is you CRAZY...back that thang up!

These scriptures mention NOTHING about a national ID card nor do they mention the European Union!


Those Iraqis having to dip thier fingers in ink to vote is more in line with prophecy of "the mark" than this nonsense about a national ID card.

Do you know the difference between a MARK IN YOUR HAND AND HEAD and a CARD IN YOUR WALLET?