when did islam come to somalia and sudan



and also which country sudan or somalia weere the virst country to submit to islam

some somalis say islam come to somalia during 7th centry,but what gets me is when people say islam come to nubia aroung 25th century..that is way later than when prophet mohamed saw declared as massenger dont you think.

so is that mean islam come to sudan about 7oo years later after prophet.the king of nubia must have been very strong to protect his natin embrassing islam for that long!!!!

i need the exact years when islam arrived in somalia and sudan because i have alot debate with my sudanes friend and he make confussed

sorry i mean to say 15th century not 25th as i mentioned above referring to nubians

Does it realy matter when, af weyne. no it doesnt the only thing that matters is Allhamdulilah islam got to us. i dont know what we did to diserve such an honour . its shame our other fellow africans dont share this

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. Salaam, All. somali_empire2004 asked: when did islam come to somalia and sudan and also which country sudan or somalia weere the virst country to submit to islam

some somalis say islam come to somalia during 7th centry,but what gets me is when people say islam come to nubia aroung 25th century..that is way later than when prophet mohamed saw declared as massenger dont you think.

so is that mean islam come to sudan about 7oo years later after prophet.the king of nubia must have been very strong to protect his natin embrassing islam for that long!!!!

i need the exact years when islam arrived in somalia and sudan because i have alot debate with my sudanes friend and he make confussed

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A very brief search turned up limited facts regarding Somalia entering the Islamic world, but the one notable fact is that it appears to have been the sufi's that brought Islam to some parts of Somalia some time in the 1800's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Somalia

Also a brief history of Somalia, as follows may account for the lack of Islamic history records: http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/world/A0861179.html

Another quick search turned up this history of Sudan:
http://www.sudan.net/government/history.html

For a more detailed study I will need more time to search. Let me know if the above links are of any help, or not.

Salaam. OriginalBM

It shouldn't matter.

Thanks to God it came to us. First people after Arabia.

Somalia............it was never an honour islam coming to Somalia, but rather a curse on Somalia and Sudan. Look at people the hunger people dying in these countries look at Indonesia people dying, we will see if your "allah" will save you . Wake up before it's late your allah does not exist. you worship a false god.

Tell me one good thing islam brought to somalia and sudan at the moment these are the poorest countries in the world and you say its an honour. Thank God islam never spead to all africa or else we would be straving and dying.

kevin ,
that was a very pathetic and insensitive comment. you should really think twice about posting such things.

as far as sudan and the rest of africa is concerned, did the europeans not rape and pillage it for over 400 hundred years? did they not instill their puppet governments in power?

kevin your ignnorace just shone right through there with that comment.

do you know the history of sudan?? its been an independent country for only 50 years, picking up the pieces from the british who neglected it. All praise is due to Allah, oil has been found in south sudan and im sure the future is very bright.

thank God that Islam came to sudan and somailia. It is far better to die poor and starving and have Allah then to die believing that jesus is God!!
As the Prophet Muhhamad, pbuh, once said to the unbelivers who offered to make him a king of them with many riches:
'You can give me the moon in one hand and the sun in the other, I still will not renounce Islam.'

you keep your wealth. i hope you can take it to the next life with you.

tell me, i want you to name me ONE christian state in the world today that is operating under strict christian rules. JUST ONE.

Somalia............it was never an honour islam coming to Somalia, but rather a curse on Somalia and Sudan. Look at people the hunger people dying in these countries look at Indonesia people dying, we will see if your "allah" will save you . Wake up before it's late your allah does not exist. you worship a false god.

Tell me one good thing islam brought to somalia and sudan at the moment these are the poorest countries in the world and you say its an honour. Thank God islam never spead to all africa or else we would be straving and dying.




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First what African country are you from? We will compare and contrast the problems that are facing African states oftoday. Please don't run away this will be very exciting discussion.

It's ok to critizise any religion that you don't belief, but to be so st*pid and incensitive to the issues on hand is very distasteful. That only just shows how uneducated one you are. If you think your God exist and other people's don't, how about you keep that to yourself since you think every one else's is non existent.

You then insult millions of people that I think you know nothing about. The people you kissor sucktheir toes had more problems that you may not want to know. Thousends of years Europeans were in dark ages, and had bloody conflicts refered as the savage wars, where Sudan and Somali had civilizations that stood in centuries. It's every where so study.

Let me tell you fool, little boy, when you want to sh*t go the right place toilet and hateful sites, but when you want to debate real and respectful manners ask any questions you're not knowledgable of.

I want to die as muslim, and nothing else so help me God. Now, what did Islam brought to Somali, and Sudan? It made us belief reality, and worship one God that you know nothing about. It made us, well educated in our societies, when those you worship as gods were killing each other in centuries.

The world of today, is not the world when Islam came to SOMALIA OR SUDAN, but a different Africa getting out of very awful colonial period. As the THESTUDENT said, both countries had their independence less then 50 yrs and tell me how this is worse then what other African nations had experienced last 50 years. Check the map to learn how many Islamic nations in Africa you may be surprised.

False God! That'syour opinion and if you want to know more go the religion treads, you may get some important debates about this. What I hate about such people like you, is that you start with the wrong foot, that it will be hard to try to have concret dialogue with you.

By the way, it's better to be on your knees and be you, then on your feet and not be you, Somalia and Sudan of today have their problems between themselves and nothing more.

kevin wrote:

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don't look at only three country's fool look at whole of african nationthere are more christian country's dying then muslim country's .

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and allah did say the non-believers will have more happiness then the real believers it is a test man deal with itfor there is a after life then is

so are you saying in sudan islam existed only just over 200 years,just before the white man discovered africa,sice you said 17 century...intresting.

and in somalia aroud 1500s,therefore we have been muslim about 300 years.

so my point is are you using christain calander or muslim.

when they say 1700s in sudan is that mean 300 years ago islam arrived???

Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. Salaam, All.

somalia_empire2004 wrote: so are you saying in sudan islam existed only just over 200 years,just before the white man discovered africa,sice you said 17 century...intresting.

and in somalia aroud 1500s,therefore we have been muslim about 300 years.

so my point is are you using christain calander or muslim.

when they say 1700s in sudan is that mean 300 years ago islam arrived??


Reply: Firstly, I may have typed in the wrong dates for
Somalia, as the 1800's. Re-reading wikipedia, the dates are nearer to the fifteenth century. And these appear to be from the Christian calendar. But you should check carefully to be sure. I'll have to find the time to re-read all of the links. Here, are some fresh links for Somalia:

http://workmall.com/wfb2001/somalia/...e_of_adal.html

http://www.hamarey.com/index.php/article/archive/9/

And new links for Sudan:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0107996.html

http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/world/A0861344.html

Salaam. OriginalBM

The Era of Foreign Control
The Egyptians founded (1823) Khartoum as their headquarters and developed Sudan's trade in ivory and slaves. Ismail Pasha (in office 1863–79) tried to extend Egyptian influence further south in Sudan, ostensibly to end the slave trade. This campaign, which was headed first by Sir Samuel Baker and then by Charles Gordon, provoked a complex revolt (1881) by the Mahdi (Muhammad Ahmad), who sought to end Egyptian influence and to purify Islam in Sudan. The Mahdists defeated Anglo-Egyptian punitive expeditions, and Britain and Egypt decided to abandon Sudan. Gordon, sent to evacuate the British and Egyptian troops, was killed by the Mahdists at Khartoum in early 1885. The Mahdi died in the same year, but his successor, the Khalifa Abdallahi, continued to build up the theocratic Mahdist state

it is amazing that egyptians come to sudan so they can slave the nubians up northern of sudan in 18 century,why didn't the great nubians fight as they should,or is it the southern sudans they come to to take as slaves..strange never though the northern sudans will be treated like that..egyptians must thing they are white to actually even think about.



i have nothern sudanes friends and they tell me how they were never been enslaved since they become muslim(at least 500 years. and they give an idea that they were actually saling their southern people to egyptians..so is that true.

i cant imagine the nubians as slaves in 1800s

i understand the norhtern sudanse have similar feature(look like)to somalis,so is it those arabs up north that egyptians tried to take thm as slaves in 1800s..thanks for the intelligent information and also those websites were very intresting.