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01-04-05, 04:01 AM
In the New Testament you read about 2 main religious bodies governing the Jewish schools of thought.
The Sadducees (Zadokim...Sons of Zadok)
The Pharisees (Farsim....pure ones)
Both of which were corrupt.
The Esseens were the last true remaining body that practiced the true religion of Moses.
But what most don't know is that the Pharisees were a community of Persian converts and Persian influenced Jews who were made "oversee-ers" over the Jewish community when it was allowed to leave Babylon to regroup back in Jersusalem.
After Jerusalem was conquered 500 B.C. and most of the Hebrews were lead into Babylonian Exile (those that didn't go down to Ethiopia), many non-Hebrews from Babylonia actuallyconverted to the religion of the Hebrews and mixed in with them.
This was true of the Chaldeans who originally conquered the Hebrews, and this was certainly true of the Persians who conquered the Chaldeans and took control of Babylon.
That's right....
Persians and other Babylonians were allowed to convert, infiltrate, and call themselves Jews even though ethnically they weren't Hebrew.
Jew was a name or title developed to encompass the entire population of converts who believed in Judaism but weren't Hebrew.
Years later after the Persians took control of the Babylonian Empire (as prophecied by the hand-writing on the wall), the Persian emperor allowed what remained of the Hebrews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild thier society and temple...but only under certain pre-conditions.
One condition is that a body of Persians and Persian influenced Jews would have to maintain control over the region and act as oversee-ers with in the region and religion.
This group of oversee-ers were known as the Farsim...better known as Pharisees.
The Persians didn't call themselves "Persian"...that's a Greek name.
They actually called themselves "Aryan/Farsi" and called their language "Farsi".
The same Farsi language was spoken by the upper-classe Jews who were fully indoctrinated in Persian religion and culture and spoke the Farsi language, they made up a body among the Jews called Farsim--Pharisees.
These Persians and Babylonians were the ones who initially corrupted the Hebrew religion by bringing in paganism and witch-craft commmonly known as the Cabalah.
The Cabalah had nothing to do with Judaism originally but was a source of Babylonian magic.
The Talmud was also designed in Babylon by the Farsim.
It's a collection of commentary, myths, and ledgends that helped to form the corrupt form of Judaism practiced today.
They also destroyed the original Torah and put together the Pentatuch (first5 books of the bible)from a collection of old Hebrew books and manuscripts.
But don't just take my word for it, do the research for yourselves.
Biggie Smalls said: And if ya don't know...now you know.
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01-04-05, 05:45 AM
But don't just take my word for it, do the research for yourselves.
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03-04-05, 06:24 PM
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And they sit and never question.
Sheeeeeeyyit.....
Bro, when I get through with them they might not even HAVE any questions!
The link between Judaism/Christianity and Ancient Persia>>>>>
This site proves that the ancient Persian language was called Farsi:
"Farsi, also known as Persian Language, is the most widely spoken member of the Iranian branch of the Indo-Iranian languages, a subfamily of the Indo-European languages. Farsi is spoken today primarily in Iran and Afghanistan, but was historically a more widely understood language in an area ranging from the Middle East to India. "
http://www.todaytranslations.com/ind...arsi--19979060
This site proves that the actual name of the Jewish sect called Pharisee in the bible was actually called Farsi:
"After the crucifixion, a Roman named Paul claimed to be a Jew named Saul who had been called upon by God to continue the mission of Bar Yussef. However, this eventually took the form of an attempt to take over both the Yeshua sect and the Gnostic sect formed by John the Baptist. This sect was one of the three main types of Jewish religion, the others being Farsi (Pharisee), who added Persian elements into the religion after the Persians freed them from Babylonian slavery, Sadducee (Zadokite), the traditional religion retained by the Jews who remained in Palestine during the exile period, and John the Baptist's esoteric Judaism, formed by Jews who fled to Egypt to avoid the exile. Each contained various factions, including revolutionaries such as Bar Yussef. "
http://www.sethur.f9.co.uk/jesus.htm
And this site (although contradicting much of my claim) further proves my point:
"The Jews greatly resisted the imposition of Zoroastrianism sherading as Judaism. The construction of the temple designed by the great Persian king Cyrus for the Jews was delayed by both political and physical means. "The true Israelis" built their own temple on MT. Gerizim and wrote Jerusalem out of their Pentateuch. So, whatever the Persian governors and priests were doing in Jerusalem in the name of Judaism, it caused a great schism. The Sadducees, the 'purists', made up over 97% of the population and believed in "no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit" (Acts 23:8) - in a word, no Persian ideas. The Pharisees or Persian faction - Pharisee, Parsee, Farsi - never numbered very high, not more than 6,000, although only the Pharisee survived the fall of Jerusalem in 70 A.D."
http://www.sullivan-county.com/z/zor3.htm
"The new doctrine of resurrection was not universally accepted by the Jews, and remained a point of contention for centuries until its ultimate acceptance. The Gospels (Matthew 22:23) record that the dispute was still going on during the time of Christ, with the Sadducees denying and the Pharisees affirming it. It may be a mere coincidence, but notice the similarity between the names "Pharisee" and "Farsi" or "Parsee", the Persians from whom the doctrine of resurrection was borrowed. "
http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/...oastianism.htm
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03-04-05, 07:51 PM
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And they sit and never question.
Sheeeeeeyyit.....
Bro, when I get through with them they might not even HAVE any questions!
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04-04-05, 09:11 AM
UMMM, very interesting. when I was an Israelite, I was taught that the Medes and the Persians conquered the tribe of Judah specifically and nicknamed them "Jews" while they were under their rule.I wonder what the truth really is?
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04-04-05, 09:13 AM
UMMM, very interesting. when I was an Israelite, I was taught that the Medes and the Persians conquered the tribe of Judah specifically and nicknamed them "Jews" while they were under their rule.I wonder what the truth really is?
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07-04-05, 05:38 PM
Since you said it twice...I think you deserve a response!
Chubby:
UMMM, very interesting. when I was an Israelite, I was taught that the Medes and the Persians conquered the tribe of Judah specifically and nicknamed them "Jews" while they were under their rule. I wonder what the truth really is?
The Medes and Persians conqured the Chaldeans and took control of Babylon...where the Hebrews lived at the time.
But yes, the word Jew or Yahud came as a result of bringing together all people who believed in that religion regardless of ancestry or ethnicity.
Even today, anyone can be a Jew as long as they accept Judaic ideology.
That's why Muslims say that Abraham wasn't a Jew, neither was Moses, David, or Solomon.
They lived BEFORE this term existed.
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12-04-05, 06:25 AM
Well....
blkafroIf yall ain't up on this, you might as well hang it up now.
This right here is the basis and origin for both modern Judaism and Christianity.
Even the black cloaks with the white collar that Catholic priests and many Shiite clerics wear came from ancient Persian religion.
Even the concept of BAPTISM came from Persia and wasn't heard of before Babylonian captivity.
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